Is America the greatest country in the world?

[Osterbaum]

I say: Fuck yeah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M)!

In this thread all of you to join me in objectively proving America to be the greatest country in the world. Let me offer the first, and possibly most important, piece of proof:

Freedom.

In America people are truly free. Freedom and Liberty are the ideals this country was founded on, unlike any of those other countries who just pretend to like Freedom. Our society is based on Freedom and, by God in whom we trust (and who blesses our great nation of the US of A), I think we can logically conclude that no other country is equally free. Basically, all these other countries just copy their sad images of Freedom from US.

I offer an article as proof and as my source (http://www.myreferenceframe.com/america/is-america-the-greatest-country-in-the-world/).

[Premmy]

America has Tesla's death ray

[Osterbaum]

That right there is another example of American greatness. I mean think about it. Tesla, a filthy European, and still we found it within our large American souls to welcome him and every foreigner before and after into our great country. All this while knowing all too well the corrupting influence foreigners can have on our Freedoms!

[Professor Smarmiarty]

If it wasn't for America we would all be speaking German/Japanese/Russian/Korean/Chinese/Vietnamese/Arabic/French! Thanks America! You're the best!

[Krylo]

Wait... French?

[Professor Smarmiarty]

America helped rid the world of poncy speaking French kings and brought in a world of glorious English.
When decided on the national language of thier new country, they did briefly consider French before havinng a hearty laugh and executing the man who suggested it.

[Jagos]

And we vetoed German by just one vote.

So basically we kicked Britain's ass, destroyed the language, and took all of the books and scientists from Germany, to become #1. Then we fought Australia for the curliest man hairs and stomped them back to the stone age!

[Osterbaum]

I don't think I'm seeing enough truth about Americas greatness here.

[Jagos]

There are no cats in America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bC07e7PReM)

(I promise, I'll be serious after this post... That opening was too good to pass up)

[krogothwolf]

America is so great it took a sissy sport and turned it into a sport of Real Men sweating in tights, hugging and dog piling on each other and then fondling each other after wards! They called this sport FOOTBALL and laughed as the rest of the world took the name and called soccer football.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Guys guys guys guys guys guys guys...

Guys...

It's Amer'ca.

[CABAL49]

Freedom and Patriotism were invented by George Washington at the Battle of Delaware, when Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Handcock and Benjamin Franklin fought about one hundred thousand British troops. Barehanded. They held out for a year with no food, water or rest until James Madison came down from Heaven carrying a Bible, The American Constitution (Handwritten by God of course) and the wrath of God himself. This was also the day the first sexual orgasm happened, naturally between two happily married people who were trying to procreate near the battle. The man and woman would later be smited for actually enjoying sex.

What was left of the British Army was smited for being Godless heathens.George Washington stood atop the pile of British soldiers that he himself had slain. Bare-chested and broad he stood with all his might. All the women who looked upon him were smited for their unavoidable lust. For proceeding with God's will, God allowed George Washington to join him in Heaven where they bumped fists and casted out demons together. George Washington then returned to Earth, being given the honor of approving God's memo to the British, the Declaration of Independence. For God had never seen a race so pure and holy as the American race. For once he was proud of his creation.

[synkr0nized]

Oh how far you have fallen, Captain Finland.

[PhoenixFlame]

Oh how far you have fallen, Captain Finland.

Well it's not like anyone's going to make a post making fun of Finland, is it?

[Krylo]

What's Finland?

[Seil]

Captain Finland is undercover. (http://nuklearforums.com/showpost.php?p=1049223&postcount=20)

[Eldezar]

If it wasn't for America we would all be speaking German/Japanese/English/Russian/Korean/Chinese/Vietnamese/Arabic/French! Thanks America! You're the best!

We spake and do still spoke American.

[Bob The Mercenary]

Let me just go ahead and answer the question posed by the OP.

http://www.newsweek.com/photo/2010/08/24/dumb-things-americans-believe.html

[POS Industries]

Well it's not like anyone's going to make a post making fun of Finland, is it?
I would personally like to know what it's like being Scandinavia's sack.

[Liquid Snake]

Let me just go ahead and answer the question posed by the OP.

http://www.newsweek.com/photo/2010/08/24/dumb-things-americans-believe.html

It's the heliocentrism one that kills me.

Like, okay, the other ones? All deplorable dumb things for Americans to believe, it's true. But for non-scientists, evolution arguably remains irrelevant (it occurs on too gradual and infinitesimal a level for us to register in our lifetimes) and there's a pop culture obsession with witchcraft and given who's on the Supreme Court bench it may be a positive sign that Americans care more about fictional dwarves.

But 20% of Americans actually believe that the sun revolves around the Earth? For some reason that offends me more than everything else combined. I'm now having visions of an undead Copernicus rising from his grave to wreak terror upon an unsuspecting American populace.

EDIT: Dammit, I'm contributing to random NPF topics like a regular poster again!
This must be stopped! It's like an addiction. I just can't get over you, NPF!! I just can't get over you!!!

[Nique]

Let me just go ahead and answer the question posed by the OP.

http://www.newsweek.com/photo/2010/0...s-believe.html

Man I don't read er nuthin' but is this some sort of poll? Like some stirring debate.

Guys ... America: The Best, or The Greatest? 110% of Americans agree. More at 27' O'clock

[synkr0nized]

EDIT: Dammit, I'm contributing to random NPF topics like a regular poster again!
This must be stopped! It's like an addiction. I just can't get over you, NPF!! I just can't get over you!!!

I'd suggest that you could get this account banned or something, but it seems like you'd just create another one...

[Rejected Again]

I'd suggest that you could get this account banned or something, but it seems like you'd just create another one...

Synk, he changed his pass to some random gibberish. It would need to be reset. However, an IP ban, now we are in business.

But anyway.

On Topic:
USA USA USA

[Amake]

America must be the best since people are trying so hard to get there they're having to outlaw foreigners. And obviously all the other countries have given up the contest, not trying to build any empires to spread their greatness or anything.

[Azisien]

The cool thing about Amerkah is you can just order a small at any restaurant and be completely full.


Or you can order any other size and become a fatass.

[The Kneumatic Pnight]

And obviously all the other countries have given up the contest, not trying to build any empires to spread their greatness or anything.

Man, what Europe do you live in?

[synkr0nized]

Synk, he changed his pass to some random gibberish. It would need to be reset. However, an IP ban, now we are in business.

I know. And the means to get back into it have been told to him, more than once now I believe. I take it his lack of acting on that info is a desire to still stick to not posting, and yet here he is anyway -- hence the jest that getting rid of Liquid would just leave the door open for another one.

Perhaps when he runs of out of Snakes? Would it then be Big Boss?

[POS Industries]

Really, I'd like to see him just go through all the various states of matter. Throw in Gaseous Snake and Plasma Snake. Maybe get a little creative with, I dunno, Suspension Snake? Ethereal Snake?

My point is snakes. It has to be snakes.

[synkr0nized]

My point is snakes. It has to be snakes.

"Snakes; why did it have to be snakes?"



Add:
Oh man, Oster. It's too bad all of Europe has to band together to be as awesome as America!

The next level for this thread: Oceania vs. Eurasia vs. Eastasia! Doubleplusbad!

[Osterbaum]

Sorry guys, I've switched sides.

[01d55]

Painstakingly remastered & reproduced by hand, we present: (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?p=997341#post997341)
Those are rolls. What the fuck.
AMERICA

That's what the fuck.

Seriously you guys why is there not an [AMERICA] tag to do that color tessellation automatically?

ETA: And let me tell you what AMERICA really does better than anyone: Pizza. That's right, you heard me. Italy can go eat their pizzas in hell. Oh wait, they already are.

NB: By "America" I mean, "California" and by "Italy" I mean "New York, Chicago, and also Italy."

[A Zarkin' Frood]

You switched from bullshit with, like, 50 stars and some stripes to bullshit with... whatsit? Twelve? And they're yellow on blue too, what colour blind fuck decided that would be a good idea?

America! Fuck Yeah! Because the flag is prettier!

EDIT: My location is obviously set to Germany, a little known town in the most glorious state of the USA. You can't take that from me by proving that such a town doesn't exist, or the state isn't glorious, because that would be an utter lie.

EDIT2: I just found some crackhead youngsters on my lawn smoking pot, so I went out with my trusty rifle and yelled "gedd off mah propatah" and shot in the air. Boy, did they run.

[Wigmund]

EDIT: My location is obviously set to Germany, a little known town in the most glorious state of the USA. You can't take that that from me by proving that such a town doesn't exist, or the state isn't glorious, because that would be an utter lie.

You live in Germany, Texas (http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/GG/hrgcu.html)?

EDIT: I am NOT saying Texas is the most glorious state in the US. Bunch of arrogant fucking bastards in that state.

EDIT2: Also NOT saying Arkansas is the greatest...far from it...

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Uh... yeah yeah, that. I'm from the great state of Texas!
Gonna have to saddle those horses before I go and vote the republicans like every good god-fearing citizen American and eat... Hamburgers? local specialty, which is anything I want, only huge, because I'm in Texas.

[CABAL49]

EDIT: My location is obviously set to Germany, a little known town in the most glorious state of the USA. You can't take that that from me by proving that such a town doesn't exist, or the state isn't glorious, because that would be an utter lie.



I say where ever we have bases is part of America.

[Magic_Marker]

Americas got 99 problems but bitches ain't one of them.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Jay-zlivein2010.jpg/220px-Jay-zlivein2010.jpg


Pictured: America

[Osterbaum]

Finland has 0 problems.

e: I switched sides again, btw.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Finland has one problem, and it's US (me). I'm coming for you now. That'll TEACH you to enslave yourself to ONE man-made set of magical lines on a map that make you better than the people on the other side. FOR SOME REASON. And Finland IS the other side.

EDIT: Fuck, wait a sec, I just noticed I'm up against Finland.

[Fifthfiend]

Americas got 99 problems but bitches ain't one of them.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Jay-zlivein2010.jpg/220px-Jay-zlivein2010.jpg


Pictured: America

America got

Af-pak patrols on the gat patrol

Folks who wanna make sure its casket closed

Economics critics say its just money cash ho's

It's from Britain, stoopid, what kind of facts are those?

[Jagos]

Finland has one problem, and it's US (me). I'm coming for you now. That'll TEACH you to enslave yourself to ONE man-made set of magical lines on a map that make you better than the people on the other side. FOR SOME REASON. And Finland IS the other side.

EDIT: Fuck, wait a sec, I just noticed I'm up against Finland.

What are you thinking man?

They blow you away for coughing in 4 degree weather!

[Osterbaum]

Finland is awesome. Proof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA5GkLM5C7M).

[Ravashak]

I wanna switch sides to Finland too, they make music that's too damn awesome there.

[Magic_Marker]

I wanna switch sides to Finland too, they make music that's too damn awesome there.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/cknight03/hahawtf.gif

[Osterbaum]

You obviosly didn't click my previous link.

[Darth SS]

Hey, Amer'ca.


http://www.durangoherald.com/resize_big_img.asp?path=/sections/Sports/2010/03/01/Sid_gets_golden_goal/images/0301GOAL.jpg

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/03/19/georges.jpg


Why do we keep beating you?

[A Zarkin' Frood]

But you still got cool bands like Opeth.
No wait, never mind, they're from Sweden.

[Krylo]

Hey, Amer'ca.

Why do we keep beating you?

You know, anthropologically speaking, sports are just a childish sub in for war. They are a way for undeveloped males to play at warfare without actual danger.

Also, I mean, really, Hockey?

If Canada ever loses at Hockey there's a problem.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Really that shows the inferiority of both Canada and America, needing to invent their own sports to play at cause they'll lose at any sports that anyone else plays

[Melfice]

"Snakes; why did it have to be snakes?"



Add:
Oh man, Oster. It's too bad all of Europe has to band together to be as awesome as America!

The next level for this thread: Oceania vs. Eurasia vs. Eastasia! Doubleplusbad!

It's funny, really.
The European Union works (more or less) exactly like the United States.

States have their own laws, plus the Federal government to make laws that affect every member.
EU members have their own laws, plus the European government to make laws that affect every member.

The main differences are we didn't actually have a government government until recently, and we speak different languages in nearly every "state". (Although some of the accents in the US could very well constitute for languages. (this is ignoring immigrants that have not (yet) learned English))

EDIT: So, in the end, you can't compare only one European Union member to the entire US.
Gotta play fair, and all!

[Darth SS]

If Canada ever loses at Hockey there's a problem.

When we didn't medal in Men's hockey at the Nagano Olympics, about fifteen people got fired and there was a month long summit held that included members of the Federal and Provincial governments, as well as the Canadian Medical Association and Hockey Canada and every other sporting agency in the country. Every night the news was dominated by what they discussed. They all individually issued national apologies

Not even joking, man. When we lost to the Czech Republic the entire country got reworked.

[Ravashak]

Well, I guess Moonsorrow (to name a good one, imo) does need a bit of easing into, I can listen to it all day though =)

[Osterbaum]

It's funny, really.
The European Union works (more or less) exactly like the United States.

States have their own laws, plus the Federal government to make laws that affect every member.
EU members have their own laws, plus the European government to make laws that affect every member.

The main differences are we didn't actually have a government government until recently, and we speak different languages in nearly every "state". (Although some of the accents in the US could very well constitute for languages. (this is ignoring immigrants that have not (yet) learned English))

EDIT: So, in the end, you can't compare only one European Union member to the entire US.
Gotta play fair, and all!
The EU doesn't have it's own joint Armed Forces. So that's like each state having a National Guard and there being no federal Armed Forces. At the moment we do have the different Rapid Deployment Forces which are joint forces of two or more member states that are on stand-by for six months though. But I don't think these are usually larger than about the size of a regiment. It's not like there hasn't been any talk about a a joint Armed Forces or atleast a deeper level of co-operation on defense though.

What do the EU founding documents and later amendments say about military co-operation/aid between member states?

Also, it would be easier for a EU member state to be kicked out or to resign of the Union than with a US state I think.

[POS Industries]

Also, it would be easier for a EU member state to be kicked out or to resign of the Union than with a US state I think.
Much easier, yes. It's officially impossible for an American state to do it now.

We had this big war a while back over it.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Also all the EU states hate each other.
And the "government" is laughably ineffectual, corrupt and useless.



We had this big war a while back over it.

I think I read something about that once.... it was somewhat derivative and inspired by the brutal Taranaki wars that occured just before.

[Osterbaum]

Also all the EU states hate each other.
And the "government" is laughably ineffectual, corrupt and useless.
I'm not sure I agree completely, but I can't really completely deny this either. The thing is, I kind of wish the EU would become something better, something that could work. I see potential for truly peacefull co-operation between different countries and understanding between cultures etc. I just wish we'd actually get there.

[POS Industries]

It's cool, you guys just need more flags and shit.

[Osterbaum]

And some kind of pledge... Like a pledge of loyalty or something.

e: Also lions.

[POS Industries]

Be sure to shoehorn something about God into the pledge years after it was written. Otherwise it loses the magical properties necessary to make communists burst into flames if they try to recite it.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

This man tells the truth. When I went to America earlier this year, I tried to recite it to trick the border guards. I got two lines into it and nearly passed out.

[01d55]

Also all the EU states hate each other.
And the "government" is laughably ineffectual, corrupt and useless.

We were talking about things that distinguish the EU from the US, not the attributes they have in common.

[Amake]

EU exists because a bunch of rich dudes decided it'd be more profitable to make the continent into a single administrative unit, and all the rich people of all the countries voted for it. The US I believe was created mainly for patriotic reasons. (Source: The pledge of alliance.)

I don't think of the EU as something I'm part of. It's some bankers and b-rated politicians in Brussels making up ridiculous arbitrary rules such as how much cocoa a chocolate bar must contain in order to call itself chocolate*, trying to make people enthusiastic about using euros for money and doing fuck all important. I suppose some Americans may have a similar view of their federal government, but they're probably in minority.

*Actual example of EU's most prominent actions. They've also decided how much fish eggs caviar may contain, how much meat meat balls may contain and how much fruit or berries marmelade may contain. Which also has forced people to change the brand names of some caviar and meat ball products and the definition of berries to include carrots. Your tax euros at work!

[A Zarkin' Frood]

At one point, I believe, they decided that carrots are fruit.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

EU exists because a bunch of rich dudes decided it'd be more profitable to make the continent into a single administrative unit, and all the rich people of all the countries voted for it. The US I believe was created mainly for patriotic reasons. (Source: The pledge of alliance.)


Nah it was pretty much the same reason.

[Osterbaum]

*Actual example of EU's most prominent actions. They've also decided how much fish eggs caviar may contain, how much meat meat balls may contain and how much fruit or berries marmelade may contain. Which also has forced people to change the brand names of some caviar and meat ball products and the definition of berries to include carrots. Your tax euros at work!
Not that I'm a huge defender of the EU, but this is taking one example and using it as proof of something it doesn't really prove. Isn't that a logical fallacy? I can't remember which.

e: I think we're better off with the EU because good has come out of it and it has good potential aswell. Even without the EU, it's not like rich fucks wouldn't find another avanue to screw us through. It's better to try and work to better the current systems in place, to change them instead of just taring it all down and expect that to get rid of the problem any better than doing nothing.

[POS Industries]

I suppose some Americans may have a similar view of their federal government, but they're probably in minority.
Naw, that's pretty much all conservatives here do is complain about that stuff.

[Amake]

Not that I'm a huge defender of the EU, but this is taking one example and using it as proof of something it doesn't really prove. Isn't that a logical fallacy? I can't remember which. It only proves that those four things are examples of the kind of work the EU does. As a matter of fact it's the only things I can remember them ever doing, which may not reflect their actual work, but certainly the impression they make in the cultural landscape.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

The EU is a good idea in theory it's just horrendous in practice. Common currency is pretty awesome though.

[Ravashak]

So is Schengen

[Amake]

Sure yeah, common currency is one step closer to no currency. It would be cooler if it was one currency for the whole galaxy though. We could call it Stardollars. And possibly Heliocents.

[Osterbaum]

It only proves that those four things are examples of the kind of work the EU does. As a matter of fact it's the only things I can remember them ever doing, which may not reflect their actual work, but certainly the impression they make in the cultural landscape.
Fair enough, I guess.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

The German ministry for propaganda and stirring shit up coined the term "Teuro". It's a totally clever portmanteau of the german word "teuer" and "Euro", which is the currency in most EU countries, just in case you didn't know. Oh, and "teuer" means expensive or pricey. Clever, huh? HUH!?

[Fifthfiend]

The EU is a good idea in theory it's just horrendous in practice. Common currency is pretty awesome though.

Except for strangling the economies of its smaller members.

[Darth SS]

Except for strangling the economies of its smaller members.

To be fair, that is at least partially their fault. There's this notion floating around Europe that the really sexy countries join the EU. Part of joining the EU is meeting a whole bunch of requirements in regards to exchange rates and their national inflation. So as a result they institute a shwack of monetary policy changes which mess around with money supply and demand, and they meet the requirements. Then the consumers finish adjusting to the new changes, everything stabilizes again, and they realize that their new policies really aren't sustainable or realistic. But, hey, now they got the EU to help them survive, right?

On the other side, the EU is having a ca-razy party with all kinds of super hot chicks and is going "What's that son!? YOU WANNA BE IN THE EU?" When the new country presents their books to be verified, the EU is slapping the book out of their hands and going "Get that shit outta' here and get yo ass in here! DRINK SOME JACK THEN TIP YA CUP!"

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Except for strangling the economies of its smaller members.


That comes under the execution part.
E: Really the good idea of the EU is that- countries are stupid, we should just get rid of them. All the rest is flawed execution.

[Cloud Strife]

Funnily enough, and a little ironically (considering the person who started this thread), according to Newsweek (http://www.newsweek.com/feature/2010/the-world-s-best-countries.html) America is actually #11, with Finland actually being #1.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Well, now I'm tied between learning finnish and move to the best country of the world according to some site. Or I could try to understand that swiss accent and move there and settle for the eternal number two.

EDIT: Finland it is. I heard they don't dub their movies so they're my best friends forever.

[Amake]

I'm obligated to point out Finland has a dramatically different language from the rest of Scandinavia. If you want to be understood in Norway, Denmark, parts of Finland and maybe Iceland and the borders of Russia too, learn Swedish. :)

Not like prominent linguists including Tolkien have stated Finnish to be the most beautiful language in the world or anything. (Yes he did.)

[Hanuman]

No. Stop mass murdering people for 50 years and then we'll talk.

[Wigmund]

Then what would we do with the nation's collective rage?

[Professor Smarmiarty]

No. Stop mass murdering people for 50 years and then we'll talk.

But how can you be the best country without mass murdering people? It's a historically solid criteria!

[Ravashak]

EDIT: Finland it is. I heard they don't dub their movies so they're my best friends forever.Yeah, that's the big comedy factor of watching German tv. They dub a lot, still grinning when I think about about Das Gesicht.

[Hanuman]

Then what would we do with the nation's collective rage?
Simmer down and play nice.

[Amake]

Yeah, that's the big comedy factor of watching German tv. They dub a lot, still grinning when I think about about Das Gesicht. Sprachen sie zu der Hand, das Gesicht hören nicht!

Or what?

[A Zarkin' Frood]

I do not understand one word.
Take this as further proof that I'm from Germany, Texas and not Germany, Europe.

Sprich zu der Hand, das Gesicht hört nicht (zu).

What the hell is that supposed to mean? I just pounded the keys randomly. But it looks similar to your gibberish.

[Amake]

There's only one way to figure this out, and that's watching the Austin Powers movies with German dubs.

Should be fun.

[Ravashak]

Some people didn't watch enough A-Team in their youth... I think that here in the Netherlands we're at the re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-run, though it could have more.

[Osterbaum]

"Speak to the hand, 'cause the face ain't listening."

e: That's right bitches, I've studied German.

[Wigmund]

Simmer down and play nice.

You know what happens to countries that play nice? They get invaded by those that don't.

[Hanuman]

You know what happens to countries that play nice? They get invaded by those that don't.
http://thenextweb.com/files/2010/03/Switzerland.png

Guess what happens to countries that don't play nice?
They get trolled by terrorists into losing an economic war.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Switzerland don't get invaded because they are the crazy kid at the back of the class with the switchblade. That's not playing nice so much as "Look at me and I'll cut you".

[POS Industries]

http://thenextweb.com/files/2010/03/Switzerland.png

Guess what happens to countries that don't play nice?
They get trolled by terrorists into losing an economic war.
Switzerland, you say? Playing nice, you say? Trolled by terrorists, you say? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minaret_controversy_in_Switzerland)

Switzerland's neutrality has never been about playing nice. It's been about being buried in an impassable mountain range that keeps them safe from invasion.

[Osterbaum]

Also lots of guns and knives.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

And an army that is everyone in the county.

[Osterbaum]

From what I understand, they aren't very highly trained though.

[krogothwolf]

Besides being Neutral isn't playing nice, being Neutral is about taking your ball and going home when everyone starts yelling at each other.

[POS Industries]

Also lots of guns and knives.
And you can do just about anything with those knives!

[CABAL49]

Besides being Neutral isn't playing nice, being Neutral is about taking your ball and going home when everyone starts yelling at each other.

It is more like you sell your balls at a very high price to line your pockets while trying to make sure others don't have balls to keep yourself being useful.

[rpgdemon]

It is more like you sell your balls at a very high price to line your pockets while trying to make sure others don't have balls to keep yourself being useful.

So many directions this one can go...

[Nuklear Waste]

Is America the greatest country in the world?

Yes.

But that's not saying much.

[Seil]

Two words: Bill O'Riely (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38659778).

America is terrifying because that man is taken seriously.

[Nuklear Waste]

I feel like Bill O'Reilly is at least a genuinely angry and crazy guy. Plus, he amuses me.

It's the guy who just had a rally you should be worrying about.

[Amake]

Physically, Russia is the greatest country in the world.

Don't know why this hasn't been brought up before. :|

[Magus]

America has 300 million plus people including a wage-slave immigrant class to do all our menial labor WHO WANTS TO COME HERE TO DO IT, and doesn't suck like Russia and China. Take that Finlanders.

[Nique]

America has 300 million plus people including a wage-slave immigrant class to do all our menial labor WHO WANTS TO COME HERE TO DO IT

For some reason this makes me think we should just re-institutionalize slavery and regulate it better ala Human Rights. Think about it: If your employer views your labor as something he owns, well, they're less likely to give up owned property even if you have a shitty performance. And if they do decide the get rid of you, well, they'll sell your 'labor' to the highest bidder! You get guaranteed wages!

[Hanuman]

I think a more reasonable question would be what's worse, America or China?

[Magus]

More like YOUR FACE or China.

I think China has a chance of winning this.

AMERICA

Politeness is for Canadians.

Excuse me, I have some guns to buy now. Many, many guns.

For some reason this makes me think we should just re-institutionalize slavery and regulate it better ala Human Rights. Think about it: If your employer views your labor as something he owns, well, they're less likely to give up owned property even if you have a shitty performance. And if they do decide the get rid of you, well, they'll sell your 'labor' to the highest bidder! You get guaranteed wages!

I like the cut of your jib and think we should bring this up at our next Tea Party meeting.