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Seil
09-04-2010, 05:29 AM
Okay, so, Geneartion ?, listen up. I've got somerthing to tell you.

Kesha Has A New Song Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edP0L6LQzZE) with more Autotune than ever. Okay - I listen to a bit of Kesha. (No effin' dollar sign, her name is Kesha. A dollar sign is not a pronounceable letter in the alphabet.) But kids, there's a whole lot of really good unknown techno, if you're looking for an auto-tuney sound. There's a whole lot of regular music, what with Minus The Bear, Sia, Hail The Villain, THe John Butler Trio... Whatever you're into. Kesha has a few passable hits... but do you really want to encourage her by buying her music? If you're gonna spend money on something, spend it on a movie ticket.

You kids are dirtyin' up (http://nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=29058) my second viewing of Toy Story 3. For serious - I saw Toy Story - the original one - in the nineties. I have it on VHS. All of the best movies came on VHS. Woody, Buzz and the gang were available in low def! You know what else was available? Not hearing little kids talking during my nostalgia trip!

You kids are wearing your pants way too damn low. I'm serious - I never noticed it before today, but damn, when I can see your back pockets at your knees, it's time to buy a belt. And while we're on the subject, wear a shirt. I know it's a hojillion degrees outside, but geez, no one wants to see that but your tween girlfriend. Working in a convenience store affords me many luxuries - kicking you out for clothing violations is one of them.

Wigmund
09-04-2010, 07:34 AM
80s styles are back - leg warmers, off-shoulder sweaters, headbands, and so on.

I take it as a sign that our civilization is doomed.

A Zarkin' Frood
09-04-2010, 08:29 AM
The worst of the 80s isn't back yet. Anyone remember those awesome pants? I don't even know what they're called because all those fashion thingies always have a name. I mean... what were they thinking? I only know this from movies though, because I'm a kid of the 90s. In terms of popular music I'm not sure if it was better or worse than the 80s. Let's just say they were both pretty bad. The zero years (which sounds way cool, man, as opposed to whatever you kids call it now, I mean what the shit?) are truly a blessing in that regard. But still not as good as the really good shit from all across the timeline (according to me).

Also: Who the fuck is Kesha? Please don't explain that to me, It's one of those things I simply don't give a damn about.

Loyal
09-04-2010, 09:57 AM
Also: Who the fuck is Kesha? Please don't explain that to me, It's one of those things I simply don't give a damn about. I suspect it's a bit like Justin Beiber, wherein the only reason I've even heard of it is because people like to bitch about it.

krogothwolf
09-04-2010, 10:05 AM
Wow, I never expected Seil to be the first to turn into the crazy old man on the lawn waving his fist at the kids.

Kim
09-04-2010, 10:07 AM
This isn't even worthwhile stuff to complain about... This is all really blah.

krogothwolf
09-04-2010, 10:09 AM
I know, I'm kinda wondering how crazy he'll become as he gets older.

Nikose Tyris
09-04-2010, 10:10 AM
This isn't even worthwhile stuff to complain about... This is all really blah.

http://dennisjudd.com/albums/funpics/fry.sized.jpg

Bard The 5th LW
09-04-2010, 10:24 AM
If I had a great grandfather, Seil would be it.

Seriously bro, move on. Kids were likely yelling in the movie theater during your day to. You were probably one of them. Music changes to, and so does interests, go listen to what you like and avoid bitching.

Funka Genocide
09-04-2010, 10:42 AM
Wow, I never expected Seil to be the first to turn into the crazy old man on the lawn waving his fist at the kids.

I really figured I'd beat everyone to the punch, but I pledge to run screaming and a-cane-waving right behind him.

Also I still have no clue who Justin Bieber is, I keep meaning to google him but I never really build up the energy necessary to do so.

Like right now. I mean I could do it but... I should go mop the floor or something.

Terisse
09-04-2010, 10:47 AM
Heh, I never have the problems you guys do, since every time I've gone to see a movie, it's always during the day, so there's like, 4-5 people scattered in the seats and every one of them is dead silent. It's pretty awesome.

Also I still have no clue who Justin Bieber is

I don't either, but my problem is that I just lack consistent internet time and don't want to waste what little time I have on looking him up. Especially when I could just as easily be wasting my time here.

Professor Smarmiarty
09-04-2010, 10:56 AM
VHS is for plebs. Betamax forever! FIDELITY! FIDELITY!

Osterbaum
09-04-2010, 10:58 AM
Laser discs are the future! Seriosly, friggin LASERS.

krogothwolf
09-04-2010, 11:00 AM
VHS is for plebs. Betamax forever! FIDELITY! FIDELITY!

Betamax failed because you supported it!

Professor Smarmiarty
09-04-2010, 11:01 AM
Laserdisc doesnt take things to the MAX

Betamax failed because you supported it!

The war was pretty much over by the time I was born

Token
09-04-2010, 11:26 AM
Okay, so, Geneartion ?, listen up. I've got somerthing to tell you.

Kesha Has A New Song Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edP0L6LQzZE) with more Autotune than ever. Okay - I listen to a bit of Kesha. (No effin' dollar sign, her name is Kesha. A dollar sign is not a pronounceable letter in the alphabet.) But kids, there's a whole lot of really good unknown techno, if you're looking for an auto-tuney sound. There's a whole lot of regular music, what with Minus The Bear, Sia, Hail The Villain, THe John Butler Trio... Whatever you're into. Kesha has a few passable hits... but do you really want to encourage her by buying her music? If you're gonna spend money on something, spend it on a movie ticket.

You kids are dirtyin' up (http://nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=29058) my second viewing of Toy Story 3. For serious - I saw Toy Story - the original one - in the nineties. I have it on VHS. All of the best movies came on VHS. Woody, Buzz and the gang were available in low def! You know what else was available? Not hearing little kids talking during my nostalgia trip!

You kids are wearing your pants way too damn low. I'm serious - I never noticed it before today, but damn, when I can see your back pockets at your knees, it's time to buy a belt. And while we're on the subject, wear a shirt. I know it's a hojillion degrees outside, but geez, no one wants to see that but your tween girlfriend. Working in a convenience store affords me many luxuries - kicking you out for clothing violations is one of them.

As a member of Generation Awesome, I feel entirely justified in politely requesting that you find the nearest horse and occupy yourself by sucking it's cock for a few hours. Why? Because Seabiscuit's jizz is slightly less annoying than the crap that's already coming out of your mouth.

Ke$ha: Firstly, "Take it Off" is at least a few months old. As for the reason a lot of my generation likes her? She's a parody. Everything from the autotune to the glitter to the drunk act is all tongue in cheek. But more importantly, it's a parody with a purpose: she is trying to erase the double standards women face in pop music and culture. For example, take Blah Blah Blah. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG2V4f0682E) Listen to it for the first time, and you'll probably think something along the lines of "wow, she's a whore." Congratulations jackass, you just labeled her for singing the same sort of shit that guys say without anyone batting an eye.

Toy Story: You're bitching about the fact that children went to see a kid's movie while it was in theaters. You're bitching about the fact that said movie excited kids. There's no sugar-coating things here, you're a douchebag. If you're really that fucking annoyed by children having the audacity to enjoy entertainment that was marketed to them, then for fucks sake, go and see it late at night when there are less kids watching it. Feel free to take the stick out of your ass while you do so.

Clothing: ...yeah, I got no objections here.

Funka Genocide
09-04-2010, 02:36 PM
The more obviously ironic something is, the less potent the irony. So called "parody" artists are just capitalizing on the same market their erstwhile parody subjects are. One could make a similar argument for Lady Gaga, (who I'm a fan of mind you) but you can only take a joke so far before you come to the stark realization that they're getting just as rich from shit that's just as ridiculous as anything out there.

In the realm of music I think the product should speak for itself though. Can she sing? Do the sounds she makes with her mouth please the ears of the audience? If the answer is yes then it doesn't matter of she's completely tongue-in-cheek ironic or tongue-in-ass ridiculous, all that matters is who is paying money to hear her and why.

In this case its probably people who think they've found some really iconoclast wit in the form of obvious paeans to forced irony, but whatever.

The main point I'm trying to make is that there is very little if any artistry inherent to a blatant mirroring in satire. Its like the kid at school who adopts a low pitched, purposefully obfuscated speech patter and repeats exactly what you just said for the sole sake of annoying you. Its childish, it lacks refinement, and to over generalize a bit, it doesn't appeal to an adult aesthetic.

Not because people think she is a "whore" or whatever fuck, but simply because it is as banal and substance-less as its targets of derision.

Also a movie theater is not the place to regale your bff of your recent bout of tonsil hockey with random teen heart throb number 17. People of all ages should shut the fuck up and watch the fucking movie.

grumble grumble

Wigmund
09-04-2010, 02:43 PM
Music has been terrible since Freddie Mercury died.

Oh fuck, most kids entering college today were born AFTER he died :(

Hanuman
09-04-2010, 03:34 PM
Conversation with a 12 year old:
Me: So, what are you guys into these days?
Kid: Well everyone seems into Holister, like everyone on the playground.
Me: Oh, what genre are they?
Kid: ?
Me: What type of music is Holister?
Kid: Oh, Holister is a clothing brand.
Me: *single tear* =(

Seil
09-04-2010, 03:37 PM
Ke$ha: Firstly, "Take it Off" is at least a few months old. As for the reason a lot of my generation likes her? She's a parody. Everything from the autotune to the glitter to the drunk act is all tongue in cheek. But more importantly, it's a parody with a purpose: she is trying to erase the double standards women face in pop music and culture. For example, take Blah Blah Blah. Listen to it for the first time, and you'll probably think something along the lines of "wow, she's a whore." Congratulations jackass, you just labeled her for singing the same sort of shit that guys say without anyone batting an eye.

So what you're saying is "You don't get it, man!" I've been surprised that Tila Tequila was more on the ball than she appears to be, and I've realized that Gaga has her own style that everyone accepts for eccentricity sake.

Toy Story: You're bitching about the fact that children went to see a kid's movie while it was in theaters. You're bitching about the fact that said movie excited kids. There's no sugar-coating things here, you're a douchebag. If you're really that fucking annoyed by children having the audacity to enjoy entertainment that was marketed to them, then for fucks sake, go and see it late at night when there are less kids watching it. Feel free to take the stick out of your ass while you do so.

Dude, the thread I linked has me bitching about adults makin' noise in theatres. I'm crochety by nature. It's not like there's double standard.

And you see that tag up there? The "Seil" tag? Making it a thread that no one takes seriously ever ever ever ever? Yeah, that's why I chose it. You should know that this isn't (http://nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=35093&) the first generation complaining thread, or even the first thread where people just plainly complain about something they dislike. (http://nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=35900&)

I've gone off on Viridis about lecturing me about how to post images, so I guess I can say that when you hit a nerve, you hit a nerve. Something's bound to happen. Though I've been here for what... four years? You think I have a stick up my ass? You're totally wrong.

(It's actually a piece of BC driftwood, a twig, really.)

Loyal
09-04-2010, 03:43 PM
And you see that tag up there? The "Seil" tag? Making it a thread that no one takes seriously ever ever ever ever?The "Seil" tag isn't explicitly a "this topic isn't very serious" tag. There's a particular reason it was named after you, and that ain't it.

I'll just leave it at that.

Donomni
09-04-2010, 04:55 PM
Anytime someone bases their entire ability to use grammar on manga scanlations, I feel like punching something face-like.

We sure as hell didn't have that back in the day.

krogothwolf
09-04-2010, 06:04 PM
You know what sucks, I had to give a training session at work recently on informing people that making e-mails using text message slang and what not is unprofessional and you shouldn't be doing that.

I seriously had to do that and tell anyone if they send out e-mails using that style they would lose their e-mail access for the company. I felt so old.

Magus
09-05-2010, 09:47 PM
Justine Beiber is this teenage girl, I think she sings? I dunno, I was at K-Mart Saturday and was looking at the magazine rack and there are currently 5 magazines dedicated to her, so she's probably popular right now, I guess.

Lev, I'm a little out of the know, too, but everybody knows Hollister is a clothing brand, as well. I appreciate your distress that they seemed more interested in talking about their clothing than hobbies or things they enjoy, though. I'm not sure what is so special about Hillister, though. There is also this one called Aeropostale that was popular last year (?) with kids with parents willing to buy them expensive clothing (I originally wrote "rich parents" but that is probably another bracket of spending above that involving Land's End (? I think is what rich people buy) or something like that)).

Frankly I'm a little more annoyed that current parents insist on bringing their kids (and I mean little kids, not 15 year olds) to hard-R movies, a trend I first noticed when I went to see Watchmen which continued up through Machete on Friday.

Red Fighter 1073
09-05-2010, 10:48 PM
Justine Beiber is this teenage girl, I think she sings? I dunno, I was at K-Mart Saturday and was looking at the magazine rack and there are currently 5 magazines dedicated to her, so she's probably popular right now, I guess.

hahahahahaha drop the "e" in "Justine" and drop the "s" in "she" and you've got it right. But yeah, he's just another decent pop singer that really only get tons of popularity because of Youtube and because of the fact that he's really young and people like my friend squeal over "cute little kids".

Torque
09-05-2010, 11:30 PM
Goddamnit, Seil! I was all set to get my old man rant pants on, and then I started listening to the music and was like, "Oh, hey this isn't too bad" and then I watched the video, and I was like "aw fuck..." and THEN I started reading the thread, and now all I want to do is bitch and complain about..... about..... *checks a page back* Token being a moron because he's too young to realize he's a moron.
But I digress.
I hate kids who drive Nissan 300zx's because they look cool. It's a 20 year old car asshole.. you don't have the money, or the know-how to fix it when it goes tits up on you, and you're just going to wreck it.
Buy a Civic and leave the classics to people who can appreciate them.

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBMfmCacZQ0 Steven Hawking is the greatest techno artist EVARZ

Fifthfiend
09-06-2010, 01:31 AM
Okay, so, Geneartion ?, listen up. I've got somerthing to tell you.

Kesha Has A New Song Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edP0L6LQzZE) with more Autotune than ever. Okay - I listen to a bit of Kesha. (No effin' dollar sign, her name is Kesha. A dollar sign is not a pronounceable letter in the alphabet.) But kids, there's a whole lot of really good unknown techno, if you're looking for an auto-tuney sound. There's a whole lot of regular music, what with Minus The Bear, Sia, Hail The Villain, THe John Butler Trio... Whatever you're into. Kesha has a few passable hits... but do you really want to encourage her by buying her music? If you're gonna spend money on something, spend it on a movie ticket.

You goddamn kids today running around thinking you know about hating things, I tell you when I was a kid we had shitty music you could HATE! We had the Spice Girls running around dressed like a Salvation Army store threw up, and that one rapper I strongly disliked, and probably some other things that were very importantly seriously not-good! And we didn't have no fancy-pants Youtube, we had radio and MTV, and we had to listen to the same shitty song we hated forty times in half an hour, during the one half hour they played songs and not reruns of Road Rules Season Twelve: Gettin' Real On the Road, cause that was the only music we could listen to at all, unless we wanted to shoplift used CDs from Wherehouse music! That's right, we were so poor, we couldn't even afford correctly spelled record stores to steal from!

Filesharing?! Fuck you!

Hanuman
09-06-2010, 01:34 AM
Truth, Eminem. IN MY DAY OUR GENERATIONS HAD LETTERS

Fifthfiend
09-06-2010, 02:01 AM
So basically from what I can figure Kesha's thing is making shitty pop music about fucking various subgenres of dirty, gross dudes while doing genre-appropriate drugs.

I think I'm basically okay with that? In fact, it may actually be kind of amazing?

Premmy
09-06-2010, 02:06 AM
As a member of Generation Awesome, I feel entirely justified in politely requesting that you find the nearest horse and occupy yourself by sucking it's cock for a few hours. Why? Because Seabiscuit's jizz is slightly less annoying than the crap that's already coming out of your mouth.

Ke$ha: Firstly, "Take it Off" is at least a few months old. As for the reason a lot of my generation likes her? She's a parody. Everything from the autotune to the glitter to the drunk act is all tongue in cheek. But more importantly, it's a parody with a purpose: she is trying to erase the double standards women face in pop music and culture. For example, take Blah Blah Blah. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG2V4f0682E) Listen to it for the first time, and you'll probably think something along the lines of "wow, she's a whore." Congratulations jackass, you just labeled her for singing the same sort of shit that guys say without anyone batting an eye.
have a bowl
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Krylo
09-06-2010, 02:10 AM
So basically from what I can figure Kesha's thing is making shitty pop music about fucking various subgenres of dirty, gross dudes while doing genre-appropriate drugs.

I think I'm basically okay with that? In fact, it may actually be kind of amazing?

Pretty much the only thing I don't like about Ke$ha is the autotune.

Autotune just sounds so bad and out of place. Pretty much always. But when I watch her videos I tend to enjoy the beat, the subject matter, the lyrics, and the videos themselves. It's just the autotune distorted voice that rakes through my mind like claws on a chalkboard.

Fifthfiend
09-06-2010, 02:12 AM
Pretty much the only thing I don't like about Ke$ha is the autotune.

Autotune just sounds so bad and out of place. Pretty much always. But when I watch her videos I tend to enjoy the beat, the subject matter, the lyrics, and the videos themselves. It's just the autotune distorted voice that rakes through my mind like claws on a chalkboard.

I feel like if it weren't autotuned to death it just wouldn't be right in some strange, ineffable way.

Like if you took that away it'd just be terrible, instead of kind of weirdly, perfectly terrible, in the way that the terrible music that she's making terrible music about is, itself, terrible.

Like if she made her song about fucking grody hair-metal dudes without autotune, it'd be like if grody hair-metal dudes made hair metal without trans-ams and sleeveless Motley Crue t-shirts

Flarecobra
09-06-2010, 02:39 AM
cause that was the only music we could listen to at all, unless we wanted to shoplift used CDs from Wherehouse music! That's right, we were so poor, we couldn't even afford correctly spelled record stores to steal from!

CDs? I remember MAGNETIC CASSETTES! You take them though the X-ray, say bye-bye to your music. Or if you just wanted to skip a song, you had to press fast forward until it passed, and pretty much all the time you either came up short, or passed when the next song started!

Nique
09-06-2010, 02:46 AM
The only problem I have with any new things is the same problem I have with old things - lack of substance or intelligence. Ke$ha fits the bill on that note as does most all Pop music ever. For example: No, Eminem, that is NOT, in fact, why they call it 'Window Paine'.

Also; Token,? Yikes man chill out. :/

Like if she made her song about fucking grody hair-metal dudes without autotune, it'd be like if grody hair-metal dudes made hair metal without trans-ams and sleeveless Motley Crue t-shirts

I think what Fifth may be saying is that if you are going to be terrible you really should go full swing so as to end up amazingly wealthy becuase of your horribleness instead of just pathetic. Like if you're going to be a super-villain you can't build a super world-destroying laser and then aim it AWAY from the earth.

Fifthfiend
09-06-2010, 02:55 AM
"Man has climbed Mount Everest - gone to the bottom of the ocean. He's fired rockets at the Moon. Split the atom! Achieved miracles in every field of human endeavor... except shitty teen pop music!"

-Auric Musicfinger, speech to Auric Musicfinger's criminal associates fellow music executives, the unveiling of Musicfinger's Operation Code Name: Automatic Tunes

Seil
09-06-2010, 03:11 AM
I dislike Kesha, something something autotune. But I listen to Owl City. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psuRGfAaju4&feature=channel)

And T-Pain can't help it, he was born that way. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_4AxzvhCPY)

Hanuman
09-06-2010, 04:54 AM
Technically speaking, boybands did use a form of autotune, it was just more tasteful and less gaudy. Anyone notice 80's hair and makeup is back? Thats what scene is.

Marc v4.0
09-06-2010, 06:18 AM
I hate the term auto-tune already because I had to look it up.

Now I have to wonder, how the hell do you even tell? I can't, for the life of me, figure out what I am really supposed to be listening for exactly

Viridis
09-06-2010, 06:28 AM
I hate the term auto-tune already because I had to look it up.

Now I have to wonder, how the hell do you even tell? I can't, for the life of me, figure out what I am really supposed to be listening for exactlyThere's... it's hard to explain. It sounds like someone is speaking via synthesizer, because of how they edit the voice to be more 'lyrical' (changing the pitch)

Here, it's easier to show than tell:
Autotune the News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bduQaCRkgg4)
Carl Sagan autotuned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc)

Edit: Also, apparently we're on Generation Z (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z).

Premmy
09-06-2010, 07:36 AM
I hate the term auto-tune already because I had to look it up.

Now I have to wonder, how the hell do you even tell? I can't, for the life of me, figure out what I am really supposed to be listening for exactly

Okay, the on-the-books definition is usually one of many tools used to adjust the pitch and tone(obviously) to better harmonize, what the average person has in mind is actually the recent trend of using it as a primary means, instead of a subtle tweak, T-pain's "singing" for example,

Nique
09-06-2010, 09:00 AM
Or Finn's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE6ex4Zbu7E&feature=related)

Premmy
09-06-2010, 09:05 AM
Actually I like when Finn sings

Wigmund
09-06-2010, 09:44 AM
You goddamn kids today running around thinking you know about hating things, I tell you when I was a kid we had shitty music you could HATE! We had the Spice Girls running around dressed like a Salvation Army store threw up, and that one rapper I strongly disliked, and probably some other things that were very importantly seriously not-good! And we didn't have no fancy-pants Youtube, we had radio and MTV, and we had to listen to the same shitty song we hated forty times in half an hour, during the one half hour they played songs and not reruns of Road Rules Season Twelve: Gettin' Real On the Road, cause that was the only music we could listen to at all, unless we wanted to shoplift used CDs from Wherehouse music! That's right, we were so poor, we couldn't even afford correctly spelled record stores to steal from!

Filesharing?! Fuck you!

Remember when MTV, VH1 and CMT used to play music videos more-or-less all day long?

Also, the Spice Girls stole the 'Raided the Salvation Army' look from Cyndi Lauper and Early Madonna who perfected the look back in the mid-80s.

Marc v4.0
09-06-2010, 06:24 PM
Okay, the on-the-books definition is usually one of many tools used to adjust the pitch and tone(obviously) to better harmonize, what the average person has in mind is actually the recent trend of using it as a primary means, instead of a subtle tweak, T-pain's "singing" for example,

Ok, see, that makes a hell of a lot more sense. Nothing I read about it gave a solid reason why a tool used to polish things up was so horrible and easy to spot.

Seil
09-06-2010, 07:16 PM
New Generation, please explain this to me. I don't get it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA)

synkr0nized
09-06-2010, 08:11 PM
Man.


Do you ask the previous generation or two to explain Bjork?



It seems this thread is more "Seil hates on musicians" more than actual generational differences and complaints.

Fifthfiend
09-06-2010, 08:45 PM
New Generation, please explain this to me. I don't get it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS6FCoq349o + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yib0y46748c + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us9O_Anwi_Q, bam, explained

Magus
09-06-2010, 09:39 PM
Not everything in an album has to be pitch-perfect. The character of the voice of certain vocalists would be entirely forgettable if run through auto-tune. Neil Young, for example. "Into the Black" would be completely forgettable if Neil Young hit all the notes correctly.

Premmy
09-07-2010, 02:28 AM
Auto-tune has become a stylistic thing in and of itself and has ceased to be just a tool to create "perfection". People dislike the style.
Edit: I actually have developed less of a hatred for auto-tune when viewing it like this, or rather, I can enjoy the robot-voice when people actually put it to good use stylistically, instead of following a fad and being a lazy singer. Sadly, the best example I can present is T-Pain, since he puts forth an effort to "harmonize" in his auto-tune voice in the unique way it can, whereas Kesha pretty much just sings normally and auto-tunes it.

Torque
09-07-2010, 07:57 PM
New Generation, please explain this to me. I don't get it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA)

You know.. if you don't WATCH the video, and you only listen to the first minute, you could actually believe it's going to be good.

Oh, also if you don't know it's Lady Gaga, and you really really have to stop listening after the first minute.

edit: I just watched the rest of it.
What the fuck!
double edit: I remember Ace of Base from like.... fuckin' grade six.... free roller skate (yes, skate, not blade) night for elementary crossing guard patrols... Jesus, I suddenly feel old.

Nique
09-08-2010, 12:40 AM
Who's talkin' bad about Ace of Base? I will straight up cut you.

Fifthfiend
09-08-2010, 12:48 PM
Just walk away Nique.

I'm letting you go.

Don't turn around.

Torque
09-08-2010, 05:08 PM
Just walk away Nique.

I'm letting you go.

Don't turn around.

http://www.dahmus.org/blogimg/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

Nique
09-08-2010, 05:15 PM
Don't turn around.

:(
But... But every time it rains, I fall to pieces
So many memories the rain releases...

I feel you... I taste you, I cannot forget.

Every time it rains... I get wet.

Torque
09-08-2010, 06:54 PM
:(


Every time it rains... I get wet.

I don't want to hear your story
'Cause I can see the things
I really want to see
In your eyes

Krylo
09-08-2010, 08:12 PM
I feel you... I taste you
Well there's a mental image I didn't need.

Kim
09-08-2010, 08:12 PM
You did. You really did.

Torque
09-08-2010, 08:23 PM
nothing like a bunch'a guys quoting ace of base lyrics at eachother to make you feel... just a little saucy!

Nique
09-08-2010, 09:29 PM
Well there's a mental image I didn't need.

Hey now, it's just a little bromance.

Liquid Snake
09-08-2010, 11:00 PM
I think NonCon's going to be busy writing a new installment of NPF yaoi fanfic tonight.

(...I'm still eagerly anticipating that Snake x Mirai fic, by the way.)

Kim
09-08-2010, 11:29 PM
I think NonCon's going to be busy writing a new installment of NPF yaoi fanfic tonight.

(...I'm still eagerly anticipating that Snake x Mirai fic, by the way.)

I already wrote it!

http://i46.tinypic.com/28bcsom.png

Liquid Snake
09-08-2010, 11:38 PM
The problem there is that you wrote me as the seme.
We both know if I actually ever turned gay I'd be uke, Nonny.

Kim
09-09-2010, 12:00 AM
(22:44:51) NonCon: Also, we don't know you'd be an uke. Hold on, I shall find a seme/uke test!
(22:45:22) NonCon: http://www.semeuke.com/quiz.php
(22:47:28) Solid_Snake: LET'S GO
(22:50:00) NonCon: "You are a Romantic Seme!" Dammit!
(22:53:59) Solid_Snake: I am a Clueless Uke
(22:54:05) NonCon: Hahahaha
(22:54:17) Solid_Snake: SHIT
(22:54:21) Solid_Snake: MOST COMPATIBLE WITH ROMANTIC SEME
(22:54:26) Solid_Snake: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRG?GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
(22:54:29) NonCon: And thus the laugh.

Liquid Snake
09-09-2010, 12:38 AM
I'm so glad you've recorded that for all posterity.

Kim
09-09-2010, 12:47 AM
Some things must be done. MUST.

Liquid Snake
09-09-2010, 12:54 AM
So basically, after you find some mysterious way to convert me to homosexuality and I become a Clueless Uke and we get married five years from now or something and everyone from NPF attends our wedding, we're going to look back at this thread and laugh, aren't we?

(...Laugh playfully before we dart under the covers in our King-sized honeymoon bed, that is.)

Shyria Dracnoir
09-09-2010, 10:15 AM
*starts rigging the hidden camera network in the honeymoon suite*

CABAL49
09-09-2010, 12:14 PM
I would totally go across the country for your wedding. Just saying.

Kim
09-09-2010, 12:22 PM
Ah, but where should we have the wedding? I forget which states allow gay marriage. I know for a fact mine doesn't.

Liquid Snake
09-09-2010, 12:57 PM
Fortunately NonnyConny, I reside in the District of Columbia, where gay marriage is perfectly legal!

Unfortunately, I'm no longer tipsy off Crown and Ginger like I was last night, so the idea of you finding a way to mysteriously convert me to Clueless Uke no longer holds any appeal.

Kim
09-09-2010, 12:58 PM
Unfortunately, I'm no longer tipsy off Crown and Ginger like I was last night, so the idea of you finding a way to mysteriously convert me to Clueless Uke no longer holds any appeal.

I'm Tite Kubo! Since when do I care about reality! Or even being consistent!

Seil
09-09-2010, 01:05 PM
Dammit, where's that "Quit Thread" button?

Kim
09-09-2010, 01:27 PM
Dammit, where's that "Quit Thread" button?

You started this mess. You don't get to quit.

Liquid Snake
09-09-2010, 01:41 PM
I think Seil might actually be a great Innocent Uke for you, Nonny.

Funka Genocide
09-09-2010, 02:18 PM
You guys really need to get laid.

/thread

Kim
09-09-2010, 02:34 PM
More like Snake needs to get laid, and I need to stop taking advantage of him.

Liquid Snake
09-09-2010, 02:40 PM
It's probably not a coincidence that every time I'm remotely tipsy and I'm simultaneously using a computer with access to the internet, NonCon shows up and finds some devious way to ensure I flirt with him.

If only NPF's female population shared your tenacity, Nonny!

Magic_Marker
09-09-2010, 02:59 PM
I'm not sure what I just read but I know for a fact this is a Seil thread.

Why have you done this Seil, why?

Fifthfiend
09-09-2010, 03:00 PM
I'm not sure what I just read but I know for a fact this is a Seil thread.

Why have you done this Seil, why?

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/fifthfiend/emoticons/seil2.png

Magic_Marker
09-09-2010, 03:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that tag is the new trollface.

Shyria Dracnoir
09-09-2010, 03:07 PM
Shouldn't it be the trollface tag is the new Seil tag since it came out later?

Magic_Marker
09-09-2010, 03:10 PM
I dunno, man. All I know is that Noncon wants some liquid snake and I can't unread that conversation.

Also it's Seil's fault.

Wigmund
09-09-2010, 03:11 PM
Noncon wants some liquid snake

Goddammit Magic Marker I can't unread that! Oh god I'm getting mental images!

BRB, getting cordless drill to remove horrible visions.

Magic_Marker
09-09-2010, 03:13 PM
7521

Fifthfiend
09-09-2010, 03:16 PM
All I know is that Noncon wants some liquid snake

Oh I think we can all agree he wants his Snake solid.

Krylo
09-09-2010, 03:17 PM
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

Seil
09-09-2010, 03:17 PM
WHY IS THERE NO QUIT THREAD BUTTON?!

Fifthfiend
09-09-2010, 03:21 PM
WHY IS THERE NO QUIT THREAD BUTTON?!

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/fifthfiend/emoticons/seil2.png

Shyria Dracnoir
09-09-2010, 03:22 PM
C'mon Seil, you have to take responsibility for your own monstrosities. Dr. Frankenstein didn't and look how he turned out!

Kim
09-09-2010, 03:22 PM
So, what you're saying is...

I wish I knew how to quit you...

Fifthfiend
09-09-2010, 05:20 PM
Seil, nobody's gonna drag you up

to get into the light

where you belong

Seil
09-09-2010, 05:57 PM
Here it is:
http://www.domesticabuseprevention.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Quit_Button.243105608_std.jpg

Torque
09-09-2010, 07:59 PM
So... Kesha -> Ace of Base -> Solid Snake and noncon getting it on -> back to ace of base.

Also, I hate to have to agree with the rest of the muppets, but you DID start this, Seil...
Sorry dude

Liquid Snake
09-09-2010, 08:42 PM
So... Kesha -> Ace of Base -> Solid Snake and noncon getting it on -> back to ace of base.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18TLHhhHZCA

Torque
09-09-2010, 08:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18TLHhhHZCA

Official confirmation... Solid/Liquid Snake wants Noncon

Liquid Snake
09-09-2010, 08:55 PM
Official confirmation... Solid/Liquid Snake wants Noncon

I've been really tryin', baby
Tryin' to hold back this feelin' for so long
And if you feel like I feel, baby...
Then come on, ooooh! ...Come on

Torque
09-09-2010, 08:56 PM
I've been really tryin', baby
Tryin' to hold back this feelin' for so long
And if you feel like I feel, baby...
Then come on, ooooh! ...Come on


http://www.domesticabuseprevention.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Quit_Button.243105608_std.jpg
http://www.domesticabuseprevention.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Quit_Button.243105608_std.jpg
http://www.domesticabuseprevention.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Quit_Button.243105608_std.jpg
http://www.domesticabuseprevention.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Quit_Button.243105608_std.jpg
http://www.domesticabuseprevention.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Quit_Button.243105608_std.jpg
http://www.domesticabuseprevention.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Quit_Button.243105608_std.jpg

Seil
09-09-2010, 09:32 PM
WHY ISN'T THE BUTTON WORKING!?!

Torque
09-09-2010, 09:34 PM
WHY ISN'T THE BUTTON WORKING!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6PZhONZ3Ac

krogothwolf
09-09-2010, 09:34 PM
WHY ISN'T THE BUTTON WORKING!?!

USE THE POWER BUTTON!!!!!

Magic_Marker
09-10-2010, 09:07 PM
IS IT TOO LATE TO JOIN IN THE FUN GUYS!?


http://www.johndiesattheend.com/new/photos/brotherguns.jpg

Seil
09-10-2010, 11:03 PM
IT'S TOO LATE, MAN! I'M DRINKIN' THE PUNCH!

Torque
09-12-2010, 08:03 PM
IT'S TOO LATE, MAN! I'M DRINKIN' THE PUNCH!

I will see you beyond the veil my brother.

Shyria Dracnoir
09-12-2010, 08:08 PM
Gentlemen, it has been an honor to chat alongside you tonight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj-1b1Yvep8)

Kim
09-24-2010, 01:51 PM
New Generation, please explain this to me. I don't get it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA)

A bit late getting to this but...

The classy black-and-white clip, lensed by high-fashion photographer/Madonna collaborator Steven Klein, is a seven-minute "celebration of my love and appreciation for the gay community, my admiration of their bravery, their love for one another, and their courage in relationships," according to Gaga...

...the video's vaguely "Rhythm Nation"-reminiscent vibe, not to mention what Gaga described to King as its "homoerotic military theme," could be construed as a creative critique of the U.S. military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. And the video's wardrobe of nun's habits and other religious imagery could be viewed as references to the Catholic Church's demonization of homosexuality.

Yrcrazypa
09-24-2010, 03:39 PM
I don't understand the whole Lady Bieber, or Justin Gaga things at all. Why do people listen to that stuff when they could listen to music that doesn't grate on the ears? Really, just about anything is better than those two things.

Kim
09-24-2010, 03:44 PM
Alejandro is actually a pretty catchy song, albeit redundant as most pop music tends to be. It's also very well choreographed. Granted, I haven't really listened to Gaga's other stuff, and it's not something I'd listen to regularly, but it's certainly not bad.

Funka Genocide
09-24-2010, 06:15 PM
Alejandro is actually a pretty catchy song, albeit redundant as most pop music tends to be. It's also very well choreographed. Granted, I haven't really listened to Gaga's other stuff, and it's not something I'd listen to regularly, but it's certainly not bad.

I kind of love that video for being everything that every other video isn't, while simultaneously being everything that every other music video is.

I'm a sucker for narrative-less pseudo-expressionist dance numbers I guess. Plus bowl cuts. (And machine gun bra.)

Yrcrazypa
09-24-2010, 06:20 PM
Alejandro is actually a pretty catchy song, albeit redundant as most pop music tends to be. It's also very well choreographed. Granted, I haven't really listened to Gaga's other stuff, and it's not something I'd listen to regularly, but it's certainly not bad.

See, to me? Catchy means really annoying. If something is 'catchy' than I tend to want to blow my brains out with a .45 cal. That song, and Gaga's other songs, tend to do that to me. Luckily I don't have to tolerate it very often.

Funka Genocide
09-24-2010, 06:34 PM
Anyone who can actually sing and dance their ass off is likely to get praise from me. I'm not a huge R&B fan, but Usher is pretty awesome.

I guess I used to be prejudiced against certain musical genres but eh, I don't really care anymore. It feels like some latent after effect of the high school mentality. If you were to ask me "what's your favorite kind of music" I'd say something like "Indie rock and roll." but I try to give everything a shot.

There's a lot of shitty pop music abroad these days. Lady Gaga doesn't really make shitty music. As far as pop goes, it's top notch, and her music videos are generally really entertaining (moreso her later ones where I think she's had a lot more creative latitude, her breakout hits were pretty much just earbug catchy and standard music industry "look at my titties" stuff, but even then there was a keen sense of off the wall fashion involved.

Like I watch a Britney Spears or Kesha or whatever video and there's nothing to think about. The sense I get is that this woman is trying to make some money, and the people behind her are trying to make even more.

When I watch a Lady Gaga video, I get the sense that this woman is trying to make some music, and the people behind her are pretty much shutting the fuck up and holding their breath.