Baths V. Showering

[Nique]

I'm sure we've talked about this before but it has recently come to my attention that taking a bath is totally rad whereas showering is not only boring but difficult and dangerous. Anyone ever slip and fall while bathing? Come on. And why be blasted in the face with icy freezing cold or boiling lava hot water when you can slowly simmer in a relaxing pool of warm water? Sounds pretty nice right? Also, you cannot have bubble-showers, and playing with floating blocks in a shower proves to be extremely frusterating vs. the bathing alternative.

Thoughts?

[Kim]

Baths aren't as hygienic, but it is much, much easier to shave your legs while bathing than while showering.

[Krylo]

Rinsing dirt off of yourself and down the drain > stewing in a murky concoction of water and your own bodily filth.

Edit: Also, I have never fallen while in the shower. Slipped and almost fell once, but that was kind of special circumstances and the shower wasn't really big enough for the both of us and that's really more than you need to know.

Point is: Maybe you're just clumsy?

[Arhra]

Baths are a sometimes food.

Showers go with anything.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Edit: Also, I have never fallen while in the shower. Slipped and almost fell once, but that was kind of special circumstances and the shower wasn't really big enough for the both of us and that's really more than you need to know.

Liez. You volunteered the information. Now share. Who was the first to drop the soap?

On topic: If you've got the time, do both. Shower off the nasties, wipe down the tub, fill and soak. Fuck it, I think I'll make that a new hobby.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

I don't like the slow realisation that I'm bathing in my own filth.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Baths are sweet until you think about it.

[pochercoaster]

showering is not only boring but difficult and dangerous. Anyone ever slip and fall while bathing? Come on. And why be blasted in the face with icy freezing cold or boiling lava hot water when you can slowly simmer in a relaxing pool of warm water?

What? Really? I hope you don't injure yourself during a number of other daily activities.

Showers > baths because they're faster and more hygienic. Sometimes a bath is good to relieve muscle soreness, though, in which case I shower first, rinse the tub, and then bathe.

[CABAL49]

Because we have a room full of showers not a room full bathtubs.

[Loyal]

What the hell do you do, Nique, soap up the floor first? That's pretty much the only conceivable scenario where I could see one slipping in a shower.

Baths are a bother, showers are super.

[Wigmund]

Baths are for relaxation and to relieve sore muscles. Showers are for cleaning, but a nice hot shower can be incredibly relaxing as well.

[bluestarultor]

Gotta stick on the shower side. You can sit and soak in a shower just as well as a bath and the spray is an additional benefit.

Also, for practical purposes, I don't think anyone ever drowned in a shower. Tub full of water? Sure. But a nice, relaxing spray? You'd literally have to be as dumb as a turkey.

[Azisien]

Showers also use way less water in any tub I've ever been in. I've definitely tested, and you'd need like a 2+ hour shower to full the tub to bath level.

If after 2 hours of getting sprayed by hot water you aren't sufficiently "soaked," you are the wrong species I guess.

[bluestarultor]

Showers also use way less water in any tub I've ever been in. I've definitely tested, and you'd need like a 2+ hour shower to full the tub to bath level.

If after 2 hours of getting sprayed by hot water you aren't sufficiently "soaked," you are the wrong species I guess.

You'd be lucky to still have hot water after one hour. Unless you have one of those fancy "hot water on demand" systems they have in Europe, but then a lot of us here are from Europe, so I'm just going to shake my fist as a wasteful American that's still stuck with an inefficient, finite tank.

[Azisien]

You'd be lucky to still have hot water after one hour. Unless you have one of those fancy "hot water on demand" systems they have in Europe, but then a lot of us here are from Europe, so I'm just going to shake my fist as a wasteful American that's still stuck with an inefficient, finite tank.

Oh yeah, no way you have hot water that long in most houses in Canada. Hotels on the other hand... :D

[Magus]

Didn't the Japanese bathe themselves with water and soap to actually clean themselves and then take a long bath for relaxation, back in the day? Best of both worlds, there.

So take a shower to actually clean yourself and then you can veg out in a bath if you feel like it.

[Locke cole]

Didn't the Japanese bathe themselves with water and soap to actually clean themselves and then take a long bath for relaxation, back in the day? Best of both worlds, there.

So take a shower to actually clean yourself and then you can veg out in a bath if you feel like it.

Can you replace the bathtub bath with a hottub instead?

Or does that defeat the purpose of the shower?

[Oron]

A hot shower with enough water pressure (doesn't need much) is pretty relaxing, and I think I'd be more likely to slip and fall getting in/out of a tub than anytime using a shower.

So... shower.

Can you replace the bathtub bath with a hottub instead?

Or does that defeat the purpose of the shower?

Hot tub probably works, but I think the idea of the hot bath is to sit still in a tub full of hot, still water and relaxing as the steam fills the room. Like a sauna, but you're sitting in hot water, I guess.

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

I am a man who loves a hot hot shower. Hot tubs are nice to sit in but baths sucks.

[Seil]

Where's the poll for this thread?

[Locke cole]

I am a man who loves a hot hot shower. Hot tubs are nice to sit in but baths sucks.

*Punch*

Baths do not suck.

Why, I'd be taking baths myself if I trusted the piping system in my new apartment.

As it is, I'm taking showers, for expedience.

Still kinda hate them, though. Just not as much as I used to.

[Aldurin]

Where's the poll for this thread?

I second this notion.

And really, both are safer and cleaner than taking a nude swim in the ocean in the early morning off of the Pacific Coast where you may or may not get eaten by oversized creatures.

But cleaning yourself is only necessary if you aren't alone and are not trying to be alone.

[BitVyper]

What kind of third world hellholes are you guys living in that you can't soak in the tub and then shower?

Anyway, showering makes my hair nicer, but bathing makes my muscles feel better. Given that my job has actually made my back so tense that my friend who has scoliosis admits that it's as bad as hers is some days, I consider the latter a bigger benefit.

[Fifthfiend]

I like to shower, then take a bath, then follow it up with a quick shower.

[Magus]

An Important Tangent To This Discussion:

Also what's up with people pronouncing bathing like "bath-ing" instead of the correct form "bathe-ing" 'cause that is really starting to get on my nerves.

Hey, guys, if the verb is bathe you don't start pronouncing it bath when you make into a gerund, seriously people. Don't just pronounce words the way they are spelled or you are going to make a fool out of yourself when you start talking about all the "deb-riss" in the gutter (debris).

I've met dozens of people who mispronounce bathing and it is possibly the second greatest threat to our country after bears.

[Aldurin]

An Important Tangent To This Discussion:

Also what's up with people pronouncing bathing like "bath-ing" instead of the correct form "bathe-ing" 'cause that is really starting to get on my nerves.

Hey, guys, if the verb is bathe you don't start pronouncing it bath when you make into a gerund, seriously people. Don't just pronounce words the way they are spelled or you are going to make a fool out of yourself when you start talking about all the "deb-riss" in the gutter (debris).

I've met dozens of people who mispronounce bathing and it is possibly the second greatest threat to our country after bears.

That is a problem but I'm more concerned about the army of internet idiots who think that the worse you misspell a word the cooler you are. We can categorize the mispronunciations as a dialect until we fix the big issue.

[synkr0nized]

Showers also use way less water in any tub I've ever been in. I've definitely tested, and you'd need like a 2+ hour shower to full the tub to bath level.

Wait, what? I must test this in my shower/bath.

[bluestarultor]

That is a problem but I'm more concerned about the army of internet idiots who think that the worse you misspell a word the cooler you are. We can categorize the mispronunciations as a dialect until we fix the big issue.

I'm most annoyed when people use real words entirely wrong, such as "loose" in place of "lose" and "breath" in place of "breathe."

The latter happens quite often on this forum and sometimes makes me want to tear my hair out as a grammar Nazi.

[synkr0nized]

grammar Nazi

If I actually handed out real bans for grammar, spelling, and language butchery, we'd be down a lot of folks.

[Premmy]

Ya'lls is nerds

[Token]

An Important Tangent To This Discussion:

Also what's up with people pronouncing bathing like "bath-ing" instead of the correct form "bathe-ing" 'cause that is really starting to get on my nerves.

Hey, guys, if the verb is bathe you don't start pronouncing it bath when you make into a gerund, seriously people. Don't just pronounce words the way they are spelled or you are going to make a fool out of yourself when you start talking about all the "deb-riss" in the gutter (debris).

I've met dozens of people who mispronounce bathing and it is possibly the second greatest threat to our country after bears.

I have never heard anyone do this, but the mere thought of it makes me want to punch something.

[DFM]

Bubble baths are for gentlemen and showers are for terrible goblins.

[Amake]

90 seconds is the recommended length of a shower if you want to save freshwater. So, how many in this thread are ruining the environment with their opulent shower habits? I like to shower for 15-20 minutes, then have a bath and then another several minute rinse.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Re the grammar/spelling nazis- I don't get it. Language changes all the time, there is no bible of grammar/spelling/pronunciation floating around. Language is a tool, as long as it works- fuck it, who cares.

Bubble baths are for gentlemen
Only if it is filled with the tears of his rivals

[DFM]

What about his own tears because a girl beat him up.

[Aldurin]

If I actually handed out real bans for grammar, spelling, and language butchery, we'd be down a lot of folks.

That'd be awesome. I'd support it if I knew the exact line I shouldn't cross, since I get a little lazy with structure and comma placement.

[bluestarultor]

Re the grammar/spelling nazis- I don't get it. Language changes all the time, there is no bible of grammar/spelling/pronunciation floating around. Language is a tool, as long as it works- fuck it, who cares.

While language is dynamic, it also has rules. Simply failing to follow them does not change them. The rules change in a structured way over time, not because someone mashes a keyboard with his face to type.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

While language is dynamic, it also has rules. Simply failing to follow them does not change them. The rules change in a structured way over time, not because someone mashes a keyboard with his face to type.

While you do have to follow some rules in order to maintain clarity, pretty much all grammar/spelling nazis are picking on things that don't impair meaning, they've just looked up split infinitives or the oxford comma and want to go cause a shit.
Cause there is only really 1 rule of grammar and that's if you can be understood the other rules can go piss themselves.
E: Rules are there to aid understanding, they are a tool- not the goal.

[Loyal]

I don't understand grammar/spelling nazis either. Especially for such minor cases as "loose" versus "lose". I can still understand perfectly what's being said, either because I can mentally correct typos, or because I can pick up the context in the rest of the sentence.

Yes, there are rules. But no language, even one as screwy as English, is going to collapse when a few are broken.

90 seconds is the recommended length of a shower if you want to save freshwater. 90 seconds! What??

[bluestarultor]

While you do have to follow some rules in order to maintain clarity, pretty much all grammar/spelling nazis are picking on things that don't impair meaning, they've just looked up split infinitives or the oxford comma and want to go cause a shit.
Cause there is only really 1 rule of grammar and that's if you can be understood the other rules can go piss themselves.
E: Rules are there to aid understanding, they are a tool- not the goal.

I know they're not the goal, but following them really helps to convey your ideas. Mostly I'd like to think that eloquence is not lost.

I don't understand grammar/spelling nazis either. Especially for such minor cases as "loose" versus "lose". I can still understand perfectly what's being said, either because I can mentally correct typos, or because I can pick up the context in the rest of the sentence.

Yes, there are rules. But no language, even one as screwy as English, is going to collapse when a few are broken.

The issue is that while you can pick up the intended meaning from context, you shouldn't have to. It's an entirely different word. For example, when feral cat hunting was in discussion in Wisconsin, there were pages of people saying "leash them or loose them." That's an entirely different stance than I'm sure was intended, namely "leash them or lose them." The first could be taken as indifference to a tangentially related topic, while the other expresses a rather disgusting disregard of other people's pets.

Every tool has a purpose. Every purpose has a tool. Using the wrong word to express yourself is like using a hammer on a screw. Maybe it'll work well enough to get the point across, but it mars the beauty at the surface.

90 seconds! What??

That's not even long enough for the water to get warm. Forget soaping up or washing your hair. In fact I think it takes longer than that just to rinse your hair after you've shampooed it.

[Satan's Onion]

My family once had a shower head with a shutoff valve to help save water. You'd get the water warm, get your hair and all sufficiently wet, then hit the valve to reduce the flow to a tiny trickle while you lathered up the shampoo in your hair or applied conditioner or something; you could turn it back on for rinsing and re-warming yourself after turning off the hot water. When you were done, you turned off the shower properly. It never got us anywhere near using only ninety seconds' worth of hot water--frankly, that sounds unrealistic to me--but it did reduce our wasting water.

[DFM]

I just get a cup of water and dump it on my head.

[Fifthfiend]

Ya'lls is nerds

Rename thread to "Baths v. Showering v. Grind 3 levels for my guild's 40-man raid"

[McTahr]

Rename thread to "Baths v. Showering v. Grind 3 levels for my guild's 40-man raid"

No self-respecting guild would take a just-capped scrub along. It would be madness!

[Fifthfiend]

No self-respecting guild would take a just-capped scrub along. It would be madness!

Things I learned from this post:

It's been a real long time since Tahr's bathed or showered.

EDIT: Poopsockhr.

[McTahr]

I haven't played WoW in years, and I'm enough of a clean freak to take multiple showers a day.

So basically, if there was a poll, I'd get like 2-3 votes on principle.

[BitVyper]

I haven't played WoW in years

And yet you're still washing off the stink.

I just get a cup of water and dump it on my head.

I picture your daily life being like one of those wacky 90s cartoons, like Animaniacs or Tiny Toons.

[Amake]

In fact I think it takes longer than that just to rinse your hair after you've shampooed it. Obviously you should keep a buzzcut alternatively shave your entire body to minimize maintenance.

Actually I got a very short haircut and tried showering in ninety seconds today. It took some serious hose power and nonstop furious scrubbing, but I feel very clean. Kinda raw in fact. Scrubbed a little too vigorously. But with practice, you could make it work and never enjoy cleaning yourself again.

[BitVyper]

Obviously you should keep a buzzcut alternatively shave your entire body to minimize maintenance.

Actually I got a very short haircut and tried showering in ninety seconds today. It took some serious hose power and nonstop furious scrubbing, but I feel very clean. Kinda raw in fact. Scrubbed a little too vigorously. But with practice, you could make it work and never enjoy cleaning yourself again.

If you're a real man, you already don't enjoy showering. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY5XF4ZH_us)

[Aldurin]

Just run naked through a rainstorm if you can't get yourself to like showers or baths. You might even be lucky enough to be on tv if you plan it right.

[Aeria]

Re the grammar/spelling nazis- I don't get it. Language changes all the time, there is no bible of grammar/spelling/pronunciation floating around. Language is a tool, as long as it works- fuck it, who cares.

There is no bible of grammar or spelling, but only because grammar isn't a religion. There are, in fact, numerous books on grammar (coincidentally called "Grammars"), and also books on spelling and punctuation (the term "Dictionary" springs to mind). Also, while it is true that some grammar does change over time, after spelling in English was standardized, the spelling of words has not change. Pronunciation is also standardized, allowing for variance in accent.

While language is dynamic, it also has rules. Simply failing to follow them does not change them. The rules change in a structured way over time, not because someone mashes a keyboard with his face to type.

Unfortunately, if enough people mash their keyboards with their face enough times in the same way, the rules of grammar will eventually shift to accommodate them. The rules follow the majority, so if the larger part of the world continues to make mistakes (such as in the case of "lay" versus "lie"), everyone else will have to allow for it ("lay" and "lie" are, generally, accepted as interchangeable).

It is true that, so long as your meaning can be understood, you're grammatically fine. However, you can get your meaning across and still look like an idiot. For example, we understand what he means when he says, "Language is a tool, as long as it works- fuck it, who cares." However, we get to make fun of him because it looks like he is making a statement, and backing it up with the principle that if something works you should have sex with it, and that no one will care.

And 90 seconds isn't nearly enough time to shower! It takes me longer than that just to wash my hair! At least three to five minutes is required.

[Magus]

I was picking on people mispronouncing stuff, not really internet grammar. Internet grammar is atrocious at the best of times because people don't really care, but rarely have I heard people mispronounce words that have been around for hundreds of years, until recently, for no apparent reason. Like, my grandmother had a dialect that had her mispronounce words like "prevaricate" as "pervaricate" (obviously my grandmother was so oldschool she used words like "prevaricate" instead of "lie), or "creek" as "crick".

I'm not picking on those. I'm picking on people who actually thought they were sounding "upper class" by pronouncing it as "bath-ing". I'm not even kidding. The final straw was when they said "bath-ed". Ye gods. Hypercorrection can be as bad as any old dialectical error.

Also, Smarty, there IS a bible of grammar and pronunciation, it is called a "dictionary".

Also also, you can save water in the shower by wetting yourself down, soaping up, and then just rinsing yourself off, similar to Onion's valve on the shower. But 90 seconds sounds basically impossible. It's probably more of a "goal" that people should aim for in thinking about conserving water, especially in desert environments, as opposed to an actual thing people could achieve.

[Hanuman]

Baths are for relaxing sore muscles without having to support them, and for soaking gunk so it's easier to clean when you then have a shower.

Have a bath then don't have a shower? Guess you don't want to be clean.

You don't see people soaking dishes then drying them off with a towel and calling them clean do you? Gotta rise that shit off.

[Nique]

You don't see people soaking dishes then drying them off with a towel and calling them clean do you? Gotta rise that shit off.

Or! Wait for it.... Stay in the bath forever. Yeah?

[Satan's Onion]

I dunno. How well do you reckon it worked for the Captain of the Golgafrincham B Ark?

[Nique]

Splendidly.

[Satan's Onion]

We-ell, on the one hand, there was the whole "useless third of society" thing, and the crashing and having to build civilization...but he also had everyone reporting to him and bringing him jynnan tonnyx and things like that, so it can't be all bad in terms of life choices to make.

[Sun-Wukong]

I don't treat cleaning myself as a leisure activity. In an ideal shower, I lather up and shampoo my hair, then turn the water on and rinse as quickly (but thoroughly) as possible. Of course, that's not how it happens every time.

I can also ad that I've never slipped in the shower; you must just be clumsy.

[Magus]

Actually guys I decided taking a bath is actually a bad thing, especially if some anti-revolutionaries are out to get you:

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6486/davmarat.jpg

I bet there have been tons of people stabbed while they're taking a bath. Now, I know that Psycho doesn't make showers that much more of a better option, either.

So I think the only real safe way to get clean is sponge bathing while armed with a machete or gun at this point. Showering is probably still possible with the machete if it's stainless steel. Baths are just a no-no, though, you're way too vulnerable in that prostrate position. Take it from Marat, the guy spent like 12 hours at a time in the bathtub. His luck had to run out sooner or later.

[Nique]

I don't treat cleaning myself as a leisure activity.

I treat literally everything as a leisure activity. My life is a constant high!