The way Mondt feels about things

[Mondt]

So man, there are just lots of things I don't like.

I'm a pretty unhappy person.

If you post I'll tell you why a little emo angsty teenager like me doesn't like it!

I'll start knocking them out right now though.


People who think they have a right to what a musician's music should sound like. I mean, their music isn't yours, they do it for them as much as they do it for you and guess what! They like themselves more than you probably. Next time you bitch about a band's new album and say how much worse they are, just think about how they feel as musicians and how they might be growing. :D
People who try to do shit for attention. Hypocritical, right? I hate these people. I don't use the word hate a lot. But I hate these people. I guess this is why I'm so angsty, I hate myself!
My unquenchable thirst for fifthfiend. I mean, I didn't think I'd ever say this out loud but since he called me out I guess I have to admit it. I have a big huge fourteen year old girl crush on this hunk of man. I just get so worked up when he belittles peoples' opinions and pretends to be really fucking important. Man, I might need a towel.


Anymore?

[Krylo]

....Soooooooooo what I'm getting here from this and that other thread is you got bored, ran out of shit to do online, and decided to DRAMA LLAAAAMMMMMMAAAA?

Is that like... accurate?

[Mondt]

Pretty much.

I never claimed to be a good troll.

I'm not really expecting anything good to come out of this. Really, I don't give a fuck.

idgaf you know? not a single one. I could sit here and try to explain why I don't feel like it will be a great loss when everyone hates me but eh. It's a lot of effort. My hands are cold and typing is hard when you shake =(

[Archbio]

Glenn Beck is so stupid. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFudttjOcB8)

I mean, Piltdown Man?! There's not been a succession of "missing links" disproved as hoaxes. There was the one hoax, plus a lot of "no longer missing links."

But yes, it is exactly like Gobal Warming.

[Kim]

If you "didn't give a fuck," you wouldn't have started the thread.

[Mondt]

Oh man, global warming.

So, what I really don't like is how both sides of the anthropogenic global warming debate have to come up with shitty fucking made up or otherwise tampered with statistics to try to persuade public opinion. If you had solid proof either way, then this wouldn't be an issue. Alas, it's easier to just manipulate your statistics, make bullshit carbon cleaning services, sell products, etc. etc. than to actually figure it the fuck out.

I did all my research like two years ago though so maybe something changed. I doubt it though. Polar bears still decreasing in number? Is that a thing people say still? I hope not since it wasn't true and all.


On my stance: I don't give a fuck really. I'm pretty selfish when it comes to this. I don't plan on seeing any sort of effects in my lifetime of an unnatural temperature swing.

Edit: The not giving a fuck thing was mostly about the thing I said directly before that.

Double Edit: Man, now I have to go listen to The Used or something since we're on global warming. I'm all emo now.

Does the Used still count as emo music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gulMGY4ZRuw&feature=related)?

[Krylo]

I never claimed to be a good troll.

Things

Things

Lots of Things

You're a fine troll.

You're just not funny.

[Mondt]

You're a fine troll.

You're just not funny.Why thank you. :cool:

On your preference though, me too. I'm new to trolling though. I usually don't reach these kinds of levels of apathy. Maybe after a little practice I could work some stolen stand up material into my trolling.

I guess the easiest way would be to wait for someone to say something stupid and then destroy them completely and then watch as everyone points and laughs.

Hey, I guess I'm that guy right now.

[Archbio]

Chrono Cross was horrifically bad as a sequel to Chrono Trigger, so I couldn't really judge it fairly for the rest.

[Mondt]

Chrono Cross was horrifically bad as a sequel to Chrono Trigger, so I couldn't really judge it fairly for the rest.To be honest, I started playing CT once and I couldn't get into it. Battles felt awkward. It was a long time ago though.

Which stands to reason that I've never played CC.

INCOMING OMGS AMIRITE

[Krylo]

On your preference though, me too. I'm new to trolling though. I usually don't reach these kinds of levels of apathy. Maybe after a little practice I could work some stolen stand up material into my trolling.

I guess the easiest way would be to wait for someone to say something stupid and then destroy them completely and then watch as everyone points and laughs.

Hey, I guess I'm that guy right now.

Nah. That's just flaming, not trolling.

You're doing it mostly right, you just need to have some more panache. Crank up the arrogance a bit. Add some aloof jokes.

It also would help if you chose a singular topic to hit on, and replied less often.

[Disc-Oh!]

To be honest, I started playing CT once and I couldn't get into it. Battles felt awkward. It was a long time ago though.

Which stands to reason that I've never played CC.

INCOMING OMGS AMIRITE

I was lucky enough to play CT on an emulator. Turned on x27 speed and zoomed past all the filler. It was a pretty good game as far as the SNES is concerned. I think the music was way too fast and high pitched though.

[Mondt]

It also would help if you chose a singular topic to hit on, and replied less often.fuck im doing it wrong

[Krylo]

Bringing in outside friends to help is kind of amateur.

Decent training wheels technique, and often has the desired effect, but it shows a weakness in the troll in question in their inability to get the job done alone.

Edit: P.S. Oh, hai, Disc. How's RO treating you? Still play on some other server, I imagine?

[Archbio]

I think the music was way too fast and high pitched though.

Sacrilege. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNzYIEY-CcM)

[Mondt]

Bringing in outside friends to help is kind of amateur.I haven't talked to DiscOH in seriously forever. Not since... arcro or something. He showed up on one of the shineyROs and was cool instead of a dick but disappeared after a better greener RO came along.

Edit: I can bring in a friend of you want. Craix might show up at like 4 am drunk off his ass. That would be fun.

[Disc-Oh!]

Bringing in outside friends to help is kind of amateur.

Decent training wheels technique, and often has the desired effect, but it shows a weakness in the troll in question in their inability to get the job done alone.

Edit: P.S. Oh, hai, Disc. How's RO treating you? Still play on some other server, I imagine?

nah, ro got borring. I played LoL for a year or so (hit top 300 on ladder till my main got nerfed), but that games getting pretty stale to.

Ive been trying to get into BLC but its a closed beta so :(

If you got any cool games feel free to proselytize.

[Mondt]

nah, ro got borring. I played LoL for a year or so (hit top 300 on ladder till my main got nerfed), but that games getting pretty stale to.Go fucking figure. I play LoL with some old RaiRO folks and some razorblade soldier guys. You know, the Beeman people? None of the people I play with from that clan played RO though. The only RO people are Craix and Alpha II/Betall ,etc.

[Krylo]

I can bring in a friend of you want. Craix might show up at like 4 am drunk off his ass. That would be fun.Nah. I'm good.

nah, ro got borring. I played LoL for a year or so (hit top 300 on ladder till my main got nerfed), but that games getting pretty stale to.

Ive been trying to get into BLC but its a closed beta so :(

If you got any cool games feel free to proselytize.

MMOs aren't really my thing, so I don't have much to recommend to you.

I kind of liked AoC and FFXIV, but there's tons of issues with both of those games so I can't really honestly suggest them to anyone, unfortunately.

Edit: I guess you might like XIV's crafting and armory systems. I think I remember you really having a thing for diving deep into complicated stat systems and what not. It's totally a 'wait until there's a free trial or someone can give you a friend pass' situation, though. I wouldn't suggest anyone pay cash monies for it without trying it.

[Disc-Oh!]

Sacrilege. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNzYIEY-CcM)

Now, run that at x27 speed and see if you get the joke.

@Krylo
Im not so much looking for an mmo as I am multi-player pvp.

[Archbio]

Now, run that at x27 speed and see if you get the joke.

The Chipmunks were never funny.

[Kim]

It's totally a 'wait until there's a free trial or someone can give you a friend pass' situation, though. I wouldn't suggest anyone pay cash monies for it without trying it.

When the game finally came out, they actually extended the thirty day trial an extra month because the problems everyone had with it. That was nifty.

[Mondt]

Edit: I guess you might like XIV's crafting and armory systems. I think I remember you really having a thing for diving deep into complicated stat systems and what not. It's totally a 'wait until there's a free trial or someone can give you a friend pass' situation, though. I wouldn't suggest anyone pay cash monies for it without trying it.I got a beta key for XIV but kinda gave up and deleted it for space. I assume they worked out the awful menu/selecting stuff lag?

I AM SO BAD AT THIS I GET DISTRACTED TOO EASILY

Edit: Man, I just remembered how little music discussion there is on this forum. Like, regardless of my bullshittery, that always made me sad. Like, unless there was a Protomen album or something it was just a dead topic =(

[Krylo]

@Krylo
Im not so much looking for an mmo as I am multi-player pvp.
I can help you even less then.

Sorry that I can't be of service.
I got a beta key for XIV but kinda gave up and deleted it for space. I assume they worked out the awful menu/selecting stuff lag?

I AM SO BAD AT THIS I GET DISTRACTED TOO EASILY
The lag got better toward the end of beta but was never really fixed. I'd assume they continued to work on it after release, but I was out of work at the time. I have a job now but the pay is too shitty to waste on FFXIV in its current situation.

Point being I'm not sure how much menu lag remains.

[Kim]

Man, I just remembered how little music discussion there is on this forum. Like, regardless of my bullshittery, that always made me sad. Like, unless there was a Protomen album or something it was just a dead topic =(

Except for "video game music" there generally seems to be very little overlap between musical tastes on this board.

[Krylo]

I'm too punk rock to discuss music with you corporate posers.

[Mondt]

Except for "video game music" there generally seems to be very little overlap between musical tastes on this board.Valid point!

Also made me sad because I'm not much of an active listener of VGM. Never really understood it. Every once in a while I'll turn on FF9 OST or maybe even FF:CC if I'm feeling... whatever you have to feel to listen to that.

I ran into a few people with similar tastes as me on here. In some aspects anyway. Any time I plugged Protest the Hero or The Human Abstract no one cared but more popular metal was discussable. Typically I find the interbasementnet dwellers to either be into metal or electronic music more likely than not.

I also don't get electronic music.

But lots of people don't get my music, so thats okay.

[Disc-Oh!]

Except for "video game music" there generally seems to be very little overlap between musical tastes on this board.

I really like the beegees

>_>
<_<

[Kim]

I think I remember one time someone was talking shit on the Beatles. Some people are so wrong it hurts.

[Mondt]

>_>
<_<La la la la. :D

Edit: I was never a big fan of the Beatles. In fact, most classics are pretty lame to me. I always felt like the "Everything new is based around it!" argument to be flawed in that most things now should then be better than the past things. Like, Metallica for example. They are now massively boring because everyone took their sound and then expanded it. Plus a million people copied it and I grew up with those million people. So I just can't appreciate Metallica like I'm supposed to.

[Kim]

I was never a big fan of the Beatles.

Some people are so wrong it hurts.

.

[Krylo]

Also made me sad because I'm not much of an active listener of VGM. Never really understood it. Every once in a while I'll turn on FF9 OST or maybe even FF:CC if I'm feeling... whatever you have to feel to listen to that.

Me neither.

Some of the remixes on OC Remix are pretty good, and some Lunar songs (but the music was core to the game, so), etc. Exceptions exceptions.

But for the most part? I find VG music adequate to set a mood but no more.

[Mondt]

Avett Brothers have a stand up bass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4wLgw-6Zk).

That makes them like the Beatles, right?

I like them!

Edit: Well, it was fun. Goodnight guys. Thanks for the tips, Krylo. :o I'll see you guys later, probz on a different account. :D

[Fifthfiend]

If a guy asks me out I'm not gonna hit him. I'll turn him down (politely or not depending on how my day has been so far) and leave it at that.

And the whole thing about parenting and homosexuality, my reaction to that scenario is due to it being something that is shouldn't be done in public anyway, and then there's the contradiction to their raising/beliefs about that issue.

Drop the topic. Don't go all torches and pitchforks and angry mob at me.

[Disc-Oh!]

Hey Fifthfiend, do you punch your keyboard and then try to re-assemble the letters into sentences regardless of their context and meaning, or do you just post drunk a lot?

[Fifthfiend]

Oh man, global warming.

So, what I really don't like is how both sides of the anthropogenic global warming debate have to come up with shitty fucking made up or otherwise tampered with statistics to try to persuade public opinion. If you had solid proof either way, then this wouldn't be an issue. Alas, it's easier to just manipulate your statistics, make bullshit carbon cleaning services, sell products, etc. etc. than to actually figure it the fuck out.

This interpretation of the scientific progress assumes that everyone is playing by the rules. Let's go over some of the basic reasons why they don't.

1) Scientists are people.
2) People want money.
3) Scientists largely get money from grants.
4) Grants are controlled by politicians.
5) Politicians decide who to give grants to based on who is saying what they want to hear.

Then there's the basic underlying fact that humans want to think they're more powerful than they are.

[Kim]

Since your definition of a conservative is someone who oppresses people on the basis of gender, sex, race, or sexual orientation, the answer has to be no. If anyone attempts to provide an example, you will simply say no, those were liberals, by virtue of not oppressing people on the basis of gender, sex, race, or sexual orientation. And then you'll continue to rage at conservatives at every opportunity. So what's the point?

[Fifthfiend]

Hey Fifthfiend, do you punch your keyboard and then try to re-assemble the letters into sentences regardless of their context and meaning, or do you just post drunk a lot?

If this is what these boards are like, it upsets me to a great degree. I hope that everyone isn't like this unwelcoming person.

[Mondt]

Okay I'm not drunk enough for this shit what is going on

RESVERSE TROLLERY D: DDDDD:

[Fifthfiend]

Okay I'm not drunk enough for this shit what is going on

RESVERSE TROLLERY D: DDDDD:

Now, personally, I'm not gay (NonCon believes otherwise). However, when someone goes ahead and writes on a poster supporting our cause "IMMORAL, GODLESS BASTARDS!", that's when I can't take it anymore.

I don't mind if people have ignorant opinions. However, they can keep it to themselves. This vandalism was put right on a poster which everyone could clearly see as they walked down the halls.

My rage, as I saw this vandalized on the poster, spiked to a point where I felt very violent. Not only did this motherfucker write this down, but he didn't do it in front of anyone, and nobody caught him/her (this is a hall where security cameras aren't prominent due to so many classrooms being there). The little douchebag is a coward at that.

I honestly think the world would be a better place if this person had no rights to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and if religion was abolished forever.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I'm too punk rock to discuss music with you corporate posers.

I'm so punk I don't even listen to "music" anymore. We throw rocks at people in suits instead.

E: Punk was cool till punks came along.

[Mondt]

WHAT THE FUCK YOUR POST CHANGED

IT WAS ABOUT PENNIES A SECOND AGO

[Fifthfiend]

Time is an illusion. Our brains only rationalize the passage of time as the alternative was incomprehensible back when spears with stone tips were at the top of technology. There was no beginning and no real end, there was never a time when god/allah/big-bang came before.

Clocks and other objects don't disprove this theory, as we designed them to "work" to our rationalized view of "time". There is no way to detect this true functioning of the universe yet as our machines are designed to work on our terms of "time" and even if they weren't then we still could not comprehend it on our terms of "time".

The closest anyone is to getting toward this theory is with the concepts of god/allah having "a billion years in one day" or "one day is actually a year, and one year is actually a day". This is likely a result of the best possible description on our terms of "time" of what appears to be the true functioning of the universe.

[Kim]

there are many ways to come into this country legally. there is a reason that it is not so easy. we have a national language, and we want people in this country to be LOYAL and PROUD to be a citizen, not just because its easier than where they were before.

Illegal immigrants are a drain on our economy, despite the cheap labor forces that they provide. Yearly they cost us millions of taxpayer dollars in medicare, fraudulent claims, and civil/criminal damages that we cannot get reparations for because the laws are too lenient.

i am for this law. it may be a radical sounding stand, but at least it IS a stand. where as amnesty is NOT the answer

[greed]

Time is an illusion. Our brains only rationalize the passage of time as the alternative was incomprehensible back when spears with stone tips were at the top of technology. There was no beginning and no real end, there was never a time when god/allah/big-bang came before.

Clocks and other objects don't disprove this theory, as we designed them to "work" to our rationalized view of "time". There is no way to detect this true functioning of the universe yet as our machines are designed to work on our terms of "time" and even if they weren't then we still could not comprehend it on our terms of "time".

The closest anyone is to getting toward this theory is with the concepts of god/allah having "a billion years in one day" or "one day is actually a year, and one year is actually a day". This is likely a result of the best possible description on our terms of "time" of what appears to be the true functioning of the universe.

Oh goddamnit Fifth I remember that topic now. I didn't want to.

Edit: And now NonCon's on it, man fuck you guys I'm gonna dig up some Iyeru post and win this horrible troll post battle.

[Kim]

who pays for the illegal immigrants who show up at emergency rooms and get care?
who pays for the damages caused to both public and personal property done by illegal immigrants?
what are we to do about the ones who are stealing identities of deceased and or living people?
why are we offering scholorships to them?

i grew up in NW Arkansas, and while you may think it is far from the border, but it is the home of tyson foods and the home of many illegal immigrants. countless times they have crashed through fences or into other drivers, no liscence, no insurance, no tags, and the other person has to have the insurance take care of the damages or cover it out of pocket.

why should i allow them to run around with out recourse for thier actions while i suffer for them?

i understand where someone comes here for a better life. but there are ways and means to do so legally

[Disc-Oh!]

Oh I get it now. Derailing a thread about being derailed by posting on topic responses from threads other than the current.

Meta.

[Fifthfiend]

Oh I get it now. Derailing a thread about being derailed by posting on topic responses from threads other than the current.

Meta.

idgaf you know? not a single one. I could sit here and try to explain why I don't feel like it will be a great loss when everyone hates me but eh. It's a lot of effort. My hands are cold and typing is hard when you shake :(

[Mondt]

http://imgur.com/YoUO1.png

[Fifthfiend]

http://imgur.com/YoUO1.png

I like to be negative as little as possible if I have the choice and I like to promote others to do the same. My posts earlier were in bad taste.

[Mondt]

http://imgur.com/2r0dM.png

[Fifthfiend]

I'm sure everyone has encountered these people: loud, noisy, inconsiderate assholes that just don't know they're bothering everyone else who's around them. Right now, as I'm waiting to go to one of my interviews, I have one of these people being me playing some fucking loud-as-hell game on their cell phone, and it's bothering now only myself but everyone else around him, visibly. And he just can't take a hint that he's pissing everyone off, despite how loudly and hard I'm hitting the keyboard to override his noise.

[Disc-Oh!]

omg that reminds me. I totally havent posted in this thread yet today
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=243881&page=126

[Professor Smarmiarty]

This thread was cool till you guys sold it out.

[greed]

I'm sure everyone has encountered these people: loud, noisy, inconsiderate assholes that just don't know they're bothering everyone else who's around them. Right now, as I'm waiting to go to one of my interviews, I have one of these people being me playing some fucking loud-as-hell game on their cell phone, and it's bothering now only myself but everyone else around him, visibly. And he just can't take a hint that he's pissing everyone off, despite how loudly and hard I'm hitting the keyboard to override his noise.


.... for reminding me of this thread (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=5350) you are forgiven.

[Kim]

This thread was cool till you guys sold it out.

People who think they have a right to what a musician's music should sound like. I mean, their music isn't yours, they do it for them as much as they do it for you and guess what! They like themselves more than you probably. Next time you bitch about a band's new album and say how much worse they are, just think about how they feel as musicians and how they might be growing.

[Fifthfiend]

.... for reminding me of this thread (http://www.nuklearforums.com/showthread.php?t=5350) you are forgiven.

I found out why I collect hentai. Because it's a form of art. As you gaze upon hentai, you tend to find the same artist has done various pictures. So, it's kind of like people who collect paintings, sculptures, photographs, etc. I collect it as a form of art.

I was wondering why I haven't been able to get off for the past few months...

[Amake]

Is this some kind of time collapse hyperthread I don't even

Seriously, I have no idea what's going on. It's Persimonopolygonauticaliberious.

[Malek]

Persimonopolygonauticaliberious.
Even though the sound of it is really quite hilarious.
Every time I hear the word I think I've gone delirious.
Persimonopolygonauticaliberious!

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

I dunnno about this. I have to agree with BitVyper. How can a group of 6-10 year olds make an informed decision on such a topic. The way I see this is that the kids decision reflects poorly on the degradation of society, death and violence is in the media every day, and I believe that they chose to take the life for the sake of seeing something die. The same reason why little kids poke road kill with a stick, or the sick bastards who strap fireworks rockets to cats. Not a year goes by that I don't hear of that. Don't mistake me for someone who would shield all children from this sort of thing, death is a natural, sad yet inevitable part of life, and children should be educated on it, but not exposed to it, and making children responsible for the life or death of an animal, is obscene.

[Loyal]

Man, there is some major mindscrew going on here.

[Revising Ocelot]

Someone trying to muscle in on the self-loathing gig? I've already got that covered, thank you.

[Magus]

I would have posted something about Protest the Hero if I had heard them at the time, however, I had not.

Although I am a bit confused by the titles of songs having little to do with the lyrics. For instance "Sequoia Throne" seems to be about the recent increase in space cults/Scientology/belief in ancient astronauts and so on. None of which seems captured by the title "Sequioa Throne".

[DarkDrgon]

I would have posted something about Protest the Hero if I had heard them at the time, however, I had not.

Although I am a bit confused by the titles of songs having little to do with the lyrics. For instance "Sequoia Throne" seems to be about the recent increase in space cults/Scientology/belief in ancient astronauts and so on. None of which seems captured by the title "Sequioa Throne".

protest the hero is what happens when you take the best parts of folly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otmtn3hvrkI) and Dillinger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q5qvft2i-s) escape plan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXVBeEuwLU), then do it wrong

*Drgon is a music snob.

[Mondt]

protest the hero is what happens when you take the best parts of folly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otmtn3hvrkI) and Dillinger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q5qvft2i-s) escape plan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXVBeEuwLU), then do it wrong

*Drgon is a music snob.I fail to see how Protest the Hero is like either of these bands. Their first album had a little bit of spazziness to it but it was hardly OMG MATHCORE DISSONANCEEEEEE. Typically, PTH is known for their semi-complex (on top of actually existing) vocal melodies, short breakdowns, grooving guitar lines mixed with truncated times (15/16, 7/8, etc.) and a few other things that Folly and TDEP are not based on your links. Like, yeah TDEP does some clean stuff but its more akin to Between the Buried and Me clean breaks.

As for Black Bubblegum, well, I guess if you think that's what PTH should be trying to do then I'll just have to disagree.

I would have posted something about Protest the Hero if I had heard them at the time, however, I had not.

Although I am a bit confused by the titles of songs having little to do with the lyrics. For instance "Sequoia Throne" seems to be about the recent increase in space cults/Scientology/belief in ancient astronauts and so on. None of which seems captured by the title "Sequioa Throne".Eh, it's the new in thing to have song titles unrelated to songs. I'm sure they connected to somehow, as the others kind of are, but I don't really look too heavily into it.

They purposefully toned down their commentary on Fortress because of how many people nerded out on Kezia asking what it means. They got tired of it. Not my favorite move from them but I accepted it 'cause the music is still pretty badass, if not a bit more mechanical.


Man, there is some major mindscrew going on here.I concluded they are copypastaing now-banned users, occasionally copypastaing me. I guess trying to say that I will be banned?

I dunno. It was all very reverse trolley. Beat at my own game! ...nothing new.


Someone trying to muscle in on the self-loathing gig? I've already got that covered, thank you.You can try to out-self-loathe me!

You can try. But you won't succeed. :o

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I fail to see how Protest the Hero is like either of these bands. Their first album had a little bit of spazziness to it but it was hardly OMG MATHCORE DISSONANCEEEEEE. Typically, PTH is known for their semi-complex (on top of actually existing) vocal melodies, short breakdowns, grooving guitar lines mixed with truncated times (15/16, 7/8, etc.) and a few other things that Folly and TDEP are not based on your links. Like, yeah TDEP does some clean stuff but its more akin to Between the Buried and Me clean breaks.


Establishment losers! Whenis the last time they purposefully bombed their own show then asked theaudience for a fight. Weak!

[DarkDrgon]

I fail to see how Protest the Hero is like either of these bands. Their first album had a little bit of spazziness to it but it was hardly OMG MATHCORE DISSONANCEEEEEE. Typically, PTH is known for their semi-complex (on top of actually existing) vocal melodies, short breakdowns, grooving guitar lines mixed with truncated times (15/16, 7/8, etc.) and a few other things that Folly and TDEP are not based on your links. Like, yeah TDEP does some clean stuff but its more akin to Between the Buried and Me clean breaks.

As for Black Bubblegum, well, I guess if you think that's what PTH should be trying to do then I'll just have to disagree.


With the folly link, I was referring more to the interesting guitar additions to heavy music. Folly's thing is Ska guitar, random lyrics, and an overall fun atmosphere. The random guitar and trying for the atmosphere were things I caught from pth the few time I saw them, but it just didn't work for me.

The comparison to dillinger was more for the meandering Jammy points. to me, Calculating Infinity and black bubblegum are DEP's best strides in that direction

I also cannot stand PTH's vocal style. Thats one of the things that just bugs me about them.

EDIT: Establishment losers! Whenis the last time they purposefully bombed their own show then asked theaudience for a fight. Weak!

I think Scott Vogel did that once. Less bombed, more jumped into the crowd, but still.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

With the folly link, I was referring more to the interesting guitar additions to heavy music. Folly's thing is Ska guitar, random lyrics, and an overall fun atmosphere. The random guitar and trying for the atmosphere were things I caught from pth the few time I saw them, but it just didn't work for me.

The comparison to dillinger was more for the meandering Jammy points. to me, Calculating Infinity and black bubblegum are DEP's best strides in that direction

I also cannot stand PTH's vocal style. Thats one of the things that just bugs me about them.

EDIT:

I think Scott Vogel did that once. Less bombed, more jumped into the crowd, but still.

Death to the past! Long live the new flesh!

[Mondt]

With the folly link, I was referring more to the interesting guitar additions to heavy music. Folly's thing is Ska guitar, random lyrics, and an overall fun atmosphere. The random guitar and trying for the atmosphere were things I caught from pth the few time I saw them, but it just didn't work for me. I haven't seen PTH live beyond youtube, but I always felt like they went for energy more than 'fun' unless you mean what I mean when I say 'energy'. For instance, The Fall of Troy has really energetic music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gulMGY4ZRuw). It's not particularly heavy, it's kinda random, but it's got forward motion. If that makes any sense.

Arif, the bassist and major writer for PTH, has stated that two of his biggest influences in music have been Propaghandi and SikTh. Maybe that will help you see what direction they're coming from? I dunno. I feel like I'm trying to convert you now that I've read what I wrote but mostly I'm just fellating PTH verbally.

The comparison to dillinger was more for the meandering Jammy points. to me, Calculating Infinity and black bubblegum are DEP's best strides in that directionI don't know what this means! :D

I also cannot stand PTH's vocal style. Thats one of the things that just bugs me about them.Oh.

Okay.

Nevermind everything I said. XD This is sort of the make or break when it comes to Protest.

[DarkDrgon]

Maybe its more because aside from drums, I'm not a technical musician. When I listen to black bubblegum and Calculating Infinity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igJAJV-ckIk), I get the feeling of a group of guys that like to sit and just jam out, more than a structured song.

On Fun and Energy, they are 2 different, yet related things. Fun is more stage presence, which when I saw PTH they tried too hard to have. They were energetic enough musically, but they tried to impress the crowd too much.

I prefer either melodic growls and yells, mixed with plain old singing on occasion. For a reference of my music tastes, check out Every Time I Die, Shai Hulud, HATEBREED, TERROR, and Thrice (yes, I know thrice is out of place on the list. Dustin is just a vocal god)

[Ryanderman]

I concluded they are copypastaing now-banned users, occasionally copypastaing me. I guess trying to say that I will be banned?

Noncon copy pasted me, so it's not just banned users. I'd guess it's posts they considered trollish. Though I'd dispute mine as trollish. I'll advised, yeah. Not trollish.

[Mondt]

Dustin is just a vocal godWe can agree about this.

A lot.

All night.

[DarkDrgon]

He has a new solo album due out by the end of the year. New Thrice album next year, too. Where were you when I made that thread?

[Mondt]

Long gone, probably!

Or just listening to Thrice.

[BitVyper]

Time is an illusion. Our brains only rationalize the passage of time as the alternative was incomprehensible back when spears with stone tips were at the top of technology. There was no beginning and no real end, there was never a time when god/allah/big-bang came before.

Well see, basically, in order for his success to have meaning, Gawain has to fail in some way. Otherwise he's just some sort of superhumanly moral being who none of us could ever really imagine... being. This has the added effect of giving him a greater personal triumph in the end, since he needs to face up to this very failure. However, in order for his FAILURE to have meaning, we also need to see him as a very difficult man to crack, which is exactly what the author showed us.

Clocks and other objects don't disprove this theory, as we designed them to "work" to our rationalized view of "time". There is no way to detect this true functioning of the universe yet as our machines are designed to work on our terms of "time" and even if they weren't then we still could not comprehend it on our terms of "time".

What we know is that the Hittites and the Egyptians fought a big battle there. Now the funny thing is that they both claim to have won a resounding victory, and this is why history is tricky: Fuckers lie. All we can do is take various points of evidence (for instance, the Hittites' technological advantages, like iron and the three wheeled chariot) and make arguments.

History doesn't really exist. It's just a big nerd argument.

The closest anyone is to getting toward this theory is with the concepts of god/allah having "a billion years in one day" or "one day is actually a year, and one year is actually a day". This is likely a result of the best possible description on our terms of "time" of what appears to be the true functioning of the universe.

I really wish you'd take your anti-semetic views elsewhere.

He has a new solo album due out by the end of the year. New Thrice album next year, too. Where were you when I made that thread?

The problem is that proof is impossible from the outset. How can you possibly prove that your senses are reporting the world honestly to you? You can't, because any evidence you bring to the table will be based on those very same senses. Therefore, science and all religions are wrong, and the universe was actually created by a giant space hippo named Craig.

We can agree about this.

Look, if you're going to be so obtuse about this, I'm not going to discuss it with you any further.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Oh man, global warming.

So, what I really don't like is how both sides of the anthropogenic global warming debate have to come up with shitty fucking made up or otherwise tampered with statistics to try to persuade public opinion. If you had solid proof either way, then this wouldn't be an issue.

So yeah, I know I came in late to the thread... but global warming's been around since the 70's (http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/climatechange2/01_1.shtml) or something.

So yeah, how bout them Ragnarok games?

[Mondt]

So yeah, I know I came in late to the thread... but global warming's been around since the 70's (http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/climatechange2/01_1.shtml) or something.

So yeah, how bout them Ragnarok games?I'm not denying that there aren't legitimate points. I see them on both sides. I tend to avoid it on places like NPF because of the usual overwhelming bias of pro-APG. ...That's not what I meant to talk about. Like I said, I see legitimate points on both sides, but it's all buried in five thousand points of statistical shit.

Like, I know that global warming has been a thing since the 70's. Also a bunch of stuff about different amounts of different greenhouse gases, including water vapor. The guy responsible for wattsupwiththat.com has a project where people mail him pictures of the thermometers used for global temperature measurement and marks a certain amount of error on them. Most are +-2 degrees C I guess (usually + because of UHIE or something like being next to a giant fucking torch. I saw the picture <_<). It's been a while since I've seen the whole thing though.

Whatevz, my physics teacher brainwashed me into a skeptic. I know fuck all about any of it.

[Tev]

So yeah, I know I came in late to the thread... but global warming's been around since the 70's (http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/climatechange2/01_1.shtml) or something.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/Steampunk/IMG_2122.jpg?t=1288618484

[Hatake Kakashi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/Loneglade/Steampunk/IMG_2122.jpg?t=1288618484

Sarcasm is lost on you, my friend. The link I posted was about the ice ages.

[shiney]

Global warming only exists because Tev insists on fire-chucking instead of regular sword-chucks.

Douse the flames Tev and the world will benefit.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Global warming only exists because Tev insists on fire-chucking instead of regular sword-chucks.

Douse the flames Tev and the world will benefit.

Good point, sir. I know I had a gallon of gasoline around here somewhere......

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Really it's all the farts you guys are dropping. Methane is a much more effecient greenhosue gas after all.

[greed]

Global warming only exists because Tev insists on fire-chucking instead of regular sword-chucks.

Douse the flames Tev and the world will benefit.


Psst. Lev and Tev are different people (I think). Tev actually has interests outside of fire chucking.

[Tev]

Global warming only exists because TevLev insists on fire-chucking instead of regular sword-chucks.

Douse the flames TevLev and the world will benefit.Fixed that for you. :mad:

[greed]

Fixed that for you. :mad:

Don't worry dude I know who you are!

[shiney]

Wow now that was just a retard move on my part. Your honor I move to strike that comment from the record.

TEV contributes to the problems by murdering foxes and wearing their skins.

[Token]

Fixed that for you. :mad:

I know who you are as well. :)

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I know who Token is!

[Tev]

TEV contributes to the problems by murdering foxes and wearing their skins.That's better, thanks.

[bluestarultor]

No worries, Tev. Lev's considering getting changed to Hanuman.


Edit:

Really it's all the farts you guys are dropping. Methane is a much more effecient greenhosue gas after all.

People should breathe less. People do a lot more breathing than farting. If we all stopped breathing for ten minutes a day, we could save on tons of carbon dioxide.

[EVILNess]

I'm always afraid to participate in these threads cause I fear the combined might of NPF brought against my fragile ego.

Paranoia or Justified Fear?

You be the judge.

[Fifthfiend]

I'm always afraid to participate in these threads cause I fear the combined might of NPF brought against my fragile ego.

Paranoia or Justified Fear?

You be the judge.

Everybody secretly hates you.

We talk about it like, all the time.

I mean you know, all the time when you're not around.

[Token]

I'm always afraid to participate in these threads cause I fear the combined might of NPF brought against my fragile ego.

Paranoia or Justified Fear?

You be the judge.

I judge you unworthy.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I'm always afraid to participate in these threads cause I fear the combined might of NPF brought against my fragile ego.

Paranoia or Justified Fear?

You be the judge.

Who invited Debbie Downer?

[Token]

No one. That's why we don't like him.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I dropped a whole buncnh of flyers at the library so some nerds would show up and we could egg them.
He probably picked up one of them. Sorry guys.

[synkr0nized]

Who invited Debbie Downer?

hahahaha

[Fifthfiend]

Who invited Debbie Downer?

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/fifthfiend/reactions/2pov4vs.gif

[Professor Smarmiarty]

This is hate crimes. It is illegal.
I'm ringing the UN as we speak.
Hopefully they can understand my refined and diginifed accent.

[Fifthfiend]

Monday 1-3 PM: Advanced Postonomics

Instructor: Smarty McBarrelpants, PhD - Postology

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Monday 1-3 PM: Advanced Postonomics

Instructor: Smarty McBarrelpants, PhD - Postology

Bro, you can't teach this bro. The keys make music dog.

Let's hit it.








Radical.

[bluestarultor]

Radical.

Welp, everyone pack up and go home. He's got us. :P

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Welp, everyone pack up and go home. He's got us. :P

I just did a study. It showed you'll always be a square.

[bluestarultor]

I just did a study. It showed you'll always be a square.

I've been around too much to be a square. :dance:

[shiney]

-rep

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

I've been around too much to be a square. :dance:

...

So yeah, I am now selling Blues secrets for 5 bucks a secret 12.50 for 3

[Token]

Medammit, Blues.

[Premmy]

http://topherlewis.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/haters.jpg

[Token]

We aren't talking about a successful person, we're talking about Bluesy!

[Kim]

He successfully invented bluespeak.

[Premmy]

That's why I'm only doing it once

[Fifthfiend]

I just went back and looked up where "bluespeak" was coined.

Oh man, it so was.

[bluestarultor]

I just went back and looked up where "bluespeak" was coined.

Oh man, it so was.

The inherent problem was that instead of taking my crazy and out-there statements for the hyperbolic example of utter ridiculousness they were, people for some reason thought I was serious. I still have no idea why people made/make that mistake considering I'm generally not a very crazy and out-there person.

'Cause yeah, I'm square as the number 4.

[Premmy]

I still have no idea why people made/make that mistake considering I'm generally not a very crazy and out-there person.
http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/1/8/1/6/beholder.jpg

[bluestarultor]

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

[Tev]

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.Eye of the beholder, man.

[Wigmund]

Either that or it's a "Huhhh?" reaction

[Fifthfiend]

The inherent problem was that instead of taking my crazy and out-there statements for the hyperbolic example of utter ridiculousness they were, people for some reason thought I was serious. I still have no idea why people made/make that mistake considering I'm generally not a very crazy and out-there person.

You know, I'm trying to be serious about this discussion, but I keep coming back to the mental image of a guy trying to be openly gay in the military in any real way. It boils down to a campaign for the right to wear pink and purple camo, replace one's dog tags with golden ones with the lettering in diamonds, and parade around in go-go boots and a feather boa.

Because, well, that's about what it would take to feminize the army's uniforms. Like, seriously, this is an institution that has its main focus on turning its members into drones with groupthink in every way possible, from uniforms to public humiliation to reciting mindless chants. You have to be TRYING to come off as openly gay in that environment, because even a valley girl accent is probably just going to prompt people to wonder what part of the South you're from. Everybody is forced to conform as much as can be expected without making them all wear masks and weights to bring it all down to the literal lowest common denominator a la Harrison Bergeron.

[Premmy]

Damn, that was much better than my stupid picture

[Archbio]

It was a pretty good stupid picture.

[Premmy]

NO! Don't patronize me, I SUCK *cries, runs away*

[bluestarultor]

You know, I'm trying to be serious about this discussion, but I keep coming back to the mental image of a guy trying to be openly gay in the military in any real way. It boils down to a campaign for the right to wear pink and purple camo, replace one's dog tags with golden ones with the lettering in diamonds, and parade around in go-go boots and a feather boa.

Because, well, that's about what it would take to feminize the army's uniforms. Like, seriously, this is an institution that has its main focus on turning its members into drones with groupthink in every way possible, from uniforms to public humiliation to reciting mindless chants. You have to be TRYING to come off as openly gay in that environment, because even a valley girl accent is probably just going to prompt people to wonder what part of the South you're from. Everybody is forced to conform as much as can be expected without making them all wear masks and weights to bring it all down to the literal lowest common denominator a la Harrison Bergeron.

Haha! Great point! Gays aren't going to "gay up" the military! I totally agree, Fifth! :D

rep++;



Seriously, though, while I maybe could have been slightly better with the wording, I was making a point about how repealing DADT was not going to change what the military was or looked like and that being able to be openly gay was not going to "ruin" anything.

I honestly didn't realize that was my own post until about halfway through and thought it made a pretty good point before it hit. So either it's really not that bad or I have a very unique and specific thought process.

[Krylo]

So either it's really not that bad or I have a very unique and specific thought process.

Well that's one way of putting it.

[Premmy]

I really would like to know how much of bluespeak is really just backpedaling and trying to save face in response to the realization that you really do believe horrible things.

[DarkDrgon]

granted I was a lurker and didn't really get the community at the time... but Blues has always made sense to me.

I don't think I should be proud of that one

[Premmy]

as I understand it, bluespeak is more like

"I say things that can be interpreted to mean a good thing, but sound like a horrible thing when viewed directly, because I express myself in an odd way"

My question is how often that's the case as opposed to:

"I totally thought this horrible thing was cool until it came out of my mouth/keyboard and now I realize it's horrible and am now trying to spin it to sound less horrible"

So it's not like he's hard to understand so much as he either has a hard time expressing things in a way that can be directly interpreted as they are intended OR he's a fantastic spin artist with horrible opinions.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

You all have horrible opinions so probably the latter.

[bluestarultor]

as I understand it, bluespeak is more like

"I say things that can be interpreted to mean a good thing, but sound like a horrible thing when viewed directly, because I express myself in an odd way"

My question is how often that's the case as opposed to:

"I totally thought this horrible thing was cool until it came out of my mouth/keyboard and now I realize it's horrible and am now trying to spin it to sound less horrible"

So it's not like he's hard to understand so much as he either has a hard time expressing things in a way that can be directly interpreted as they are intended OR he's a fantastic spin artist with horrible opinions.

To answer your question, I wish I could claim to be a spin artist. I suck at bullshitting.

[Premmy]

how am I supposed to believe you're not lying about lying?

[bluestarultor]

how am I supposed to believe you're not lying about lying?

Because if I were lying, I'd totally be sucking at it. Get with the program, here. :rolleyes:

[01d55]

You know, I'm trying to be serious about this discussion, but I keep coming back to the mental image of a guy trying to be openly gay in the military in any real way.

I think it comes up when the military bros get around to talking about women and how much they would like to fuck some.

[walkertexasdruid]

There is so much going on in this thread I do not even know where to start.

Music: I actually have a pretty broad range when it comes to my musical tastes. I like Mozart (Amudeous is still one of my favorite movies of all time), the Beatles were cool, swing music is cool, 70's rock is cool, punk is cool, eighties hair bands were cool, grunge was cool, hard rock and some heavy metal is awsome (give me some Metalica, Godsmack, or Coal Chamber while driving to and from work and I am happy), and Wierd Al songs are cool. I never was to into boy bands like Backstreet Boys or N'Sync, but i can see why a lot of people liked them.

Gays: Gay bashing is just wrong, and hate crimes of any type should not happen. If someone wants to defend our country, they should be allowed to regardless of sexuality.

Crono Trigger and Crono Cross: I am a fan of both games. I even suggested a long time ago that Squinex should make a sequal for the current gen consols.

Global Warming: From what I heard, the rising temperatures of the world is slowly melting the ice caps. More water in the air causes more cloud cover which will eventually cause an ice age in the distant future. So global warming will eventually cause global cooling, though not as dramatically fast as The Day After Tomorrow would have you believe.

Negativity: As you might be able to tell, I have trouble being negitive about anything, at least on the internet. My threads and posts are always about getting advice from the rest of you, or some obscure idea that I think is funny, or about all the things I like, or commenting (usually positively) about what other people like. Maybe I will try to be negative in the future, but I am always worried about hurting someone's feelings the way mine were on a regular basis when I was a kid. I have issues. :ohdear: