You know that fantasy where you rescue the girl from like forty guys? [Archive]

Fifthfiend

01-31-2011, 11:32 PM

Yeah but I mean I don't want to punch him in the face for raping a girl, I just want to punch him in the face for being a shitty president.

Like I kick in the doors of the Oval Office, two Secret Service agents pull their guns on me, I take them with my LIGHTNING STRIKES and then kick the agents unconcious, then I punch the President real hard in the face

and then he is like

whoa fifthfiend, your Facepunch has OPENED MY EYES to what a shitty president I've been, how about you help me write some new legislation and develop new political strategies for this bold, fearless new world of post-facepunch American politics.

and then I'm like

yes, mr. president

yes we can

Aldurin

01-31-2011, 11:36 PM

I want one of those knives . . . of course I'll reserve it for stabbing rapists but it'd be cool to have one.

EDIT: Fifth, can I come with you? Punching him twice should reinforce the revelation.

Bob The Mercenary

01-31-2011, 11:38 PM

Zilla

01-31-2011, 11:41 PM

He killed 6 people.

Like, judge, jury, executioner.

Is that okay? Shouldn't that be looked at as well?

Aldurin

01-31-2011, 11:43 PM

Guys. This isn't really that impressive. After the first three kills he must have popped a UAV, figured out their locations, dropped a care package where he recieved the kukri and toggled the commando perk.

You're forgetting the guy that's a mile away with a cannon/sniper rifle who makes the enemy randomly die. There's always one of those guys.

EDIT:@Zilla, Murder is okay if the victims were intending rape at that moment, which they were, and if he said "No, don't do that." they probably would have just shot him and raped the girl anyway. Also murder in self-defense is totally acceptable.

Zilla

01-31-2011, 11:48 PM

It's just something to think about, is it morally okay to end someone's life over what happened there or not. It's mostly a devil's advocate position, but nonetheless, I think it's worth considering.

I guess I'm having one of those "questioning morality" moments, 'cause I know this is just supposed to be "This guy is awesome 'cause he stood up to 40 armed thugs." Which is indeed awesome. I won't say he's wrong for standing up against those odds. I'm not even against what he did. I guess it just kinda surprised me how easily they wrote off those 6 people's lives.

Fifthfiend

02-01-2011, 12:00 AM

Yeah it's okay if you kill three people in the process of interrupting their attempted gangrape, in the middle of their already-in-progress armed robbery.

You are pretty much totally allowed to do that.

BitVyper

02-01-2011, 12:04 AM

I guess it just kinda surprised me how easily they wrote off those 6 people's lives.

I don't think anyone wrote them off, but I don't think anyone is weeping for them either (anyone discussing the article, that is. I'm sure they meant something to SOMEONE). They haven't exactly made themselves easy to empathize with. Beyond that, every article I've read on the matter has this guy not stepping in until they started stripping the girl, so it's not like he jumped in with the disproportionate response or anything.

Fifthfiend

02-01-2011, 12:09 AM

I mean if he like, armed himself to the teeth

With a furious rage in his eye

And hunted the rest of this gang down man by man, brutally murdering them in their beds, some of them in front of their wives, or children, or parents

Then yeah that would actually be pretty much going way overboard and not acceptable at all. Except in a Mel Gibson movie because that is just how it goes in Mel Gibson movies but this is not Mel Gibson movies, this is real life.

But in circumstances where your options are 1. kill this person (who is part of this much bigger group of better-armed-than-you people), 2. get killed, 3. do nothing while this other innocent person is grievously hurt and very possibly killed, that is pretty much among the very small set of circumstances where it is pretty much completely okay to kill another person. And everyone else can pretty much go ahead and be totally congratulatory of you for doing it.

BitVyper

02-01-2011, 12:16 AM

I think she's more talking about people not really caring that people died due to being focused on talking this guy up, but I mean, what exactly should we be doing for them? They didn't exactly die under noble circumstances. I'm sure they'll get their respects and all, but I'd rather talk this guy up than spend a lot of time worrying about them, having verified to my personal confidence that the information in the article seems pretty much accurate.

Premmy

02-01-2011, 12:20 AM

Even I who views the concept of morality in a very strict black-and-white way hinging purely on whether or not what you do has any negative impact on ANY sentient thing, I just can't really give a fuck re: the gang-raping train bandits getting killed. Granted, the other half of my morality is my willingness to give a fuck but that's a different story altogether.

BitVyper

02-01-2011, 12:24 AM

Like, it's important to care about them to the extent that you go "okay, did these guys actually do what everyone says they did? Was the guy as justified as the article makes it sound?" But I did that to the furthest extent I could before I ever linked an article. Which is to say that I checked a few articles to see if I could find any conflicting statements. As I couldn't, I can pretty much only answer those two questions with "yes" unless further information presents itself, or I travel to... I guess Nepal? To verify the facts personally.

Edit: Of course my usual baseline assumption that there are probably circumstances involved which make him less of a kung fu legend stands, but that's not fun, and I didn't post this in the NOFUN forum.

Zilla

02-01-2011, 01:01 AM

Yeah, I know... it's something kinda hard to talk about in general, the value of life and whatnot.

I guess, once I stopped and thought about it, and thought about how they were actual people too, and thought about what kind of lives they led, and... I guess I'm in some kind of existential quandary, where it just doesn't seem like it's okay...

I don't know, it was honorable to stand up against them. I guess I just wish it wouldn't have resulted in the loss of life. I think that's the regrettable part.

BitVyper

02-01-2011, 01:18 AM

I guess I just wish it wouldn't have resulted in the loss of life. I think that's the regrettable part.

It sucks, but I tend to blame any loss of life on the armed robbers who decided to add gangrape to their resume.

Fifthfiend

02-01-2011, 01:20 AM

Well I mean I'll put it like this, maybe every one of these three guys to a man was like, nice to his mother, and donated to the poor, and spent their weekends volunteering at a hospital for old people, and once... ran into a burning building to save a child, and then totally through no fault of their own fetched up against such hard times that they saw no other way to deal with this than to join a gang of 39 other absolutely excellent people and then rob a train at gunpoint.

But like, then for some reason they chose to take part in a group rape. And like, it'd be okay if this guy had manage to stop them from raping this girl without killing them, like the eight other people he only injured, but if killing three of them was just part of the process of preventing this rape, then nobody is really obligated to regret any of that, because if you want your death to be regrettable, you don't attempt gang rape at gunpoint.

AINT THAT SOME SHIT

No it really ain't! You are dead, the guy who killed you gets to be an awesome hero, people get to go WELL DONE, AWESOME HERO and not feel bad about you dyin' at all, your kids and townspeople and old people you helped get to go WAY TO GET KILLED TRYING TO RAPE A GIRL, YOU DICK.

Si Civa

02-01-2011, 03:20 PM

"My non-violence does not admit of running away from danger and leaving dear ones unprotected. Between violence and cowardly flight, I can only prefer violence to cowardice. Non-violence is the summit of bravery."
- Mohandas Gandhi.

I think this applies here very well.

Edit:// It's actually quite sad that I've actually used 'violence' (I'm not sure if putting people to ground and holding them is that violent) and waited cops* to come to take care it. But it has always been the better option than not doing anything.

*Finnish police force tend to be rather nice folk to my experience or at least when I've needed them.

Amake

02-01-2011, 04:28 PM

"The good that may be done with violence is always temporary, while the evil it does lasts forever." I think either Gandhi or Buddha said that. The correct non-violent move here is to position yourself between the woman and the attackers as far as possible, which in practical terms means until they're done laughing and shoot you.

But you'd pretty much have to be a gigantic jackass to trust the universe to take care of itself while forty dudes go after one woman in front of you. So three of them died? No amount of people, especially not one person, is going to take on forty armed robbers and be able to ensure that they're all disabled with a bare minimum of violence. There's absolutely nothing to blame Shrestha for. The only thing he could possibly have done better would have been to kill just one or two of the attacks in a spectacular enough manner that that alone would have frightened off the rest, and I really don't expect that much from a human being. Three may in fact have been a marvel of restraint and discipline. I wouldn't have stopped there.

Because fuck rapists.

Krylo

02-01-2011, 04:30 PM

Because fuck rapists.

But then you're just giving them what they want!

Amake

02-01-2011, 04:34 PM

Hmm that could also be a non-violent solution. The power of sex compels you: Leave this body alone!

Premmy

02-01-2011, 06:03 PM

I don't know, if he had whipped out a pair of these
http://www.stungunsupply.com/images/P/kuckleblast.jpg
That would have solved the whole "Killing are wrong" thing and also solves this problem

Of course my usual baseline assumption that there are probably circumstances involved which make him less of a kung fu legend stands, but that's not fun, and I didn't post this in the NOFUN forum.

Because there's no way to use those in this situation that doesn't involve legendary kung-fu

Hatake Kakashi

02-01-2011, 06:14 PM

Somehow, I don't think the would-be rapists would've felt as threatened by that as they did by the quick and bloody slaughter of three of their so-called comrades. People, especially groups of people, aren't nearly as afraid of a shock or an asskicking as they are being killed where they stand. Once they saw this guy meant srs bznz, they turned tail and ran like the cowardly would-be rapists they are.

Perhaps I simply lack the ability to empathize with cowards who would subject a woman to an act of violence and degradation. Iunno.

Torque

02-01-2011, 07:09 PM

Ah, you have it all wrong.
There is no moral quandary here. If actual people had died then there might be a reason to question the soldier's reaction, but let's face, there is absolutely nothing wrong with killing animals either for sport, sustenance, or for trophies. This is frankly, win win

Jagos

02-02-2011, 04:12 PM

Might as well make this a superpower thread or something...

This guy fell 1000 ft and lived! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-12319952)

Funka Genocide

02-02-2011, 05:02 PM

Yeah its pretty much understood that there are rigid lines in society that, once crossed, equate to a forfeiture of the right to continue breathing. Attempted gang rape is squarely on that list.

Honestly, fuck those guys. They got what they deserved, hopefully they round up the rest of them and hang them, or whatever they do in Nepal.

DFM

02-02-2011, 05:37 PM

I can't condone anyone saying people, even attempted rapists, deserve to be murdered.

Professor Smarmiarty

02-02-2011, 05:46 PM

I'm ok with it if it was an accident, you were trying to save the women and stop the attack and accidentely killed them. But to say they don't deserve to live, I don't agree with.

Premmy

02-02-2011, 05:53 PM

I'm not saying they deserved to die(or LIVE for that matter) but I AM saying that I can't really bring myself to give a fuck that they died after the fact, based on the conditions of their death, And probably wouldn't be able to were I in that situation.

Hatake Kakashi

02-02-2011, 06:32 PM

I wouldn't call it murder. I'd say they died to a hazard of the job.

Torque

02-02-2011, 07:17 PM

I can't condone anyone saying people, even attempted rapists, deserve to be murdered.

It's ok though, because attempted rapists aren't people. Problem solved. Murder away!

Fifthfiend

02-02-2011, 08:30 PM

I am glad to see this thread become increasingly simplistic and removed from anything like the situation brought up in the OP.

That just doesn't happen enough, with threads.

It's ok though, because attempted rapists aren't people. Problem solved. Murder away!

This is dumb.

BitVyper

02-02-2011, 08:37 PM

Dehumanizing anyone is one of the few things that is pretty agreeably bad to most moral philosophies.

Aldurin

02-02-2011, 08:39 PM

If it's kill-or-be-raped, I'd choose kill.

Torque

02-02-2011, 08:44 PM

Dehumanizing anyone is one of the few things that is pretty agreeably bad to most moral philosophies.

This would be true, but I have never dehumanized another human being in my life. At least not intentionally.
Rapists and murderers, drug dealers, and anyone who pedals in death for the sake of one's own gain has willingly forfeited their humanity themselves. I've just chosen to accept their actions of their own free will and have adopted a personal philosophy that jives with their own. They want to become subhuman detritus, I will happily oblige them. This soldier apparently agrees with me.

Fifthfiend

02-02-2011, 08:53 PM

Dehumanizing anyone is one of the few things that is pretty agreeably bad to most moral philosophies.

Among other things, it generally seems to go hand in hand with deciding that this or that particular accused person is clearly actually a person, therefore whatever it was they did couldn't possibly have been that monstrously monstrous thing that only monsters would monsteringly do, and the 'victim' was just overreacting or lying or something.

This would be true, but I have never dehumanized another human being in my life.

This is dumb.

Torque

02-02-2011, 08:54 PM

Among other things, it generally seems to go hand in hand with deciding that this or that particular accused person is clearly actually a person, therefore whatever it was they did couldn't possibly have been that monstrously monstrous thing that only monsters would monsteringly do, and the 'victim' was just overreacting or lying or something.

This is dumb.

Bob The Mercenary

02-02-2011, 09:06 PM

This thread

This is dumb.

BitVyper

02-02-2011, 09:11 PM

Rapists and murderers, drug dealers, and anyone who pedals in death for the sake of one's own gain has willingly forfeited their humanity themselves.

Joshelplex, is that you?

Fifthfiend

02-02-2011, 09:19 PM

Joshelplex, is that you?

I just remembered that one time I sold weed to that one kid, guess I'm not human no more.

Lookin' forward to Torque murdering me putting me down.

This is dumb.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/fifthfiend/reactions/huwoahuhahf7.gif

BitVyper

02-02-2011, 09:21 PM

What if someone murders my sister, so I murder him, so his brother murders me? Pretty classic blood feud example.

Wait, what if I murder someone who evidence had shown to be a murderer, but they're exonerated after their death, then someone murders me in response to this new information? Is that person then murderable? Where are the boundaries here?

Can I kill someone for selling heroin to my friend? Are "all-hetero-sex-is-rape" feminists allowed to murder any straight man they please?

Lookin' forward to Torque murdering me putting me down.

Not if I get there first. Man, having a free license to indulge my taste for death is awesome.

DFM

02-02-2011, 10:03 PM

Joshelplex, is that you?

No joke he messaged me the other day for help writing a report about how McCarthy was exonerated and they really were all communist spies.

BitVyper

02-02-2011, 10:20 PM

No joke he messaged me the other day for help writing a report about how McCarthy was exonerated and they really were all communist spies.

Wow, that's... impressive.

Funka Genocide

02-02-2011, 10:23 PM

Krylo

02-02-2011, 10:26 PM

I guess it is too much to expect you people to understand the difference between killing three men while outnumbered 40 to 1 in the defense of a young woman about to be raped, and like... going on a blood feud murder spree.

That's just... wow guys. Wow.

Funka Genocide

02-02-2011, 10:27 PM

Krylo that's why you're the smart one.

Premmy

02-02-2011, 10:29 PM

But I'm the pretty one.

Torque

02-02-2011, 10:29 PM

Let it be said here and now that I am officially the first member of this forum that would willingly ban himself for life if he had the powers of a mod. Mods? Admins? Do your thing, because holy shit. Just... holy shit.

edit:
I guess it is too much to expect you people to understand the difference between killing three men while outnumbered 40 to 1 in the defense of a young woman about to be raped, and like... going on a blood feud murder spree.

That's just... wow guys. Wow.

Christ, thank you.

Peace out.

Premmy

02-02-2011, 10:33 PM

Still pretty...

Funka Genocide

02-02-2011, 10:33 PM

as a side note I think drug dealers are a major contributor to systemic poverty in low income areas and are generally a bunch of assholes, but that doesn't mandate a death sentence.

I mean, I like Notorious B.I.G. as much as the next guy, but everytime I heard him talk about selling drugs before he was a rapper I think "really guy? really?"

Also Jay Z.

Fifthfiend

02-02-2011, 10:37 PM

I disagree with a lot of you on the innate sanctity of human life I guess. I won't go so far as to say rapists and murderer's aren't human, of course they are. I just think its a pretty functional philosophy to use deadly force when necessary.

I guess you could argue that they were just going to forcefully have sex with the young lady and not actually kill her. Not really going to make that distinction myself though.

In a perfect world you wouldn't need to use deadly force on violent criminals because there wouldn't be violent criminals. Any farther reaching statement than that I really can't agree with and keep a straight face.

If you guys had a couple of sweet ass knives and saw I was about to get gang raped by 40 armed bandits I'd hope you'd do the right thing and flip the fuck out. I'd flip the fuck out for you.

Please specify who you are responding to in these posts, and what, in those posts, you are responding to, and what parts of this post you believe are at odds with the things those people have said.

Christ, thank you.

Peace out.

There just aren't the gifs.

Everyone: Stop being stupid.

Thank you for this post which helpfully confirmed Torque's feelings of rightness in his views, that was a real contribution, Krylo.

Funka Genocide

02-02-2011, 10:43 PM

I get the vibe some of you dudes are all about not killing anyone, ever, under any circumstances.

I do not agree with that.

I don't like quoting posts piecemeal because it seems silly reposting something that is all ready posted a few inches down the screen. I don't need to particularly point out any one poster so long as my point is made, which I think it is pretty concisely.

BitVyper

02-02-2011, 10:46 PM

Fifthfiend

02-02-2011, 10:48 PM

I get the vibe some of you dudes are all about not killing anyone, ever, under any circumstances.

I do not agree with that.

Please indicate who you think is giving off that vibe, based on which of their posts in this thread.

Funka Genocide

02-02-2011, 10:49 PM

I could be mistaken in which case consider it a simplistic statement of general personal perspective.

BitVyper

02-02-2011, 10:53 PM

I could be mistaken in which case consider it a simplistic statement of general personal perspective.

Things got a little phil 101 in the last bit, but if you check out the earlier posts in the thread, it might be easier to see where people stand.

Krylo

02-02-2011, 10:53 PM

Thank you for this post which helpfully confirmed Torque's feelings of rightness in his views, that was a real contribution, Krylo.

It's not my fault he misunderstood my post as saying it's totally ok to murder these people later in their homes while they are sipping tea and not in the process of raping anyone or whatever thing he was arguing for.

Premmy

02-02-2011, 10:54 PM

I get the vibe some of you dudes are all about not killing anyone, ever, under any circumstances.

I do not agree with that.
Every Page of this thread until Torque posted

EDIT:@Zilla, Murder is okay if the victims were intending rape at that moment, which they were, and if he said "No, don't do that." they probably would have just shot him and raped the girl anyway. Also murder in self-defense is totally acceptable.
It sucks, but I tend to blame any loss of life on the armed robbers who decided to add gangrape to their resume.

Yeah it's okay if you kill three people in the process of interrupting their attempted gangrape, in the middle of their already-in-progress armed robbery.

You are pretty much totally allowed to do that.
Even I who views the concept of morality in a very strict black-and-white way hinging purely on whether or not what you do has any negative impact on ANY sentient thing, I just can't really give a fuck re: the gang-raping train bandits getting killed. Granted, the other half of my morality is my willingness to give a fuck but that's a different story altogether.

"My non-violence does not admit of running away from danger and leaving dear ones unprotected. Between violence and cowardly flight, I can only prefer violence to cowardice. Non-violence is the summit of bravery."
- Mohandas Gandhi.

I think this applies here very well.

Somehow, I don't think the would-be rapists would've felt as threatened by that as they did by the quick and bloody slaughter of three of their so-called comrades. People, especially groups of people, aren't nearly as afraid of a shock or an asskicking as they are being killed where they stand. Once they saw this guy meant srs bznz, they turned tail and ran like the cowardly would-be rapists they are.

Perhaps I simply lack the ability to empathize with cowards who would subject a woman to an act of violence and degradation. Iunno.

"The good that may be done with violence is always temporary, while the evil it does lasts forever." I think either Gandhi or Buddha said that. The correct non-violent move here is to position yourself between the woman and the attackers as far as possible, which in practical terms means until they're done laughing and shoot you.

But you'd pretty much have to be a gigantic jackass to trust the universe to take care of itself while forty dudes go after one woman in front of you. So three of them died? No amount of people, especially not one person, is going to take on forty armed robbers and be able to ensure that they're all disabled with a bare minimum of violence. There's absolutely nothing to blame Shrestha for. The only thing he could possibly have done better would have been to kill just one or two of the attacks in a spectacular enough manner that that alone would have frightened off the rest, and I really don't expect that much from a human being. Three may in fact have been a marvel of restraint and discipline. I wouldn't have stopped there.

Because fuck rapists.

I don't like quoting posts piecemeal because it seems silly reposting something that is all ready posted a few inches down the screen. I don't need to particularly point out any one poster so long as my point is made, which I think it is pretty concisely.
Gotcha

POS Industries

02-02-2011, 10:54 PM

Thank you for this post which helpfully confirmed Torque's feelings of rightness in his views, that was a real contribution, Krylo.
Please indicate who you think is giving off that vibe, based on which of their posts in this thread.
Hey Fifth, quit being a dickhole to people who agree with you over all that agreeing with you they're doing.

EDIT: And no, this isn't a mod post.

BitVyper

02-02-2011, 10:56 PM

Gotcha

To be honest, I'm totally on board with not quoting posts piecemeal. It tends to set up strawmen even if it isn't intentional.

Edit: Of course, you still have to actually READ the posts.

Premmy

02-02-2011, 10:57 PM

Hey Fifth, quit being a dickhole to people who agree with you over all that agreeing with you they're doing.

EDIT: And no, this isn't a mod post.

I think the best part is how now Fifth and Torque are the same, because he owes me one powerful-ass diss and that's the best one I've got.

Krylo

02-02-2011, 10:58 PM

*stuff*

To be honest, I'm totally on board with not quoting posts piecemeal. It tends to set up strawmen even if it isn't intentional.

Edit: Of course, you still have to actually READ the posts.

To be fair this thread kind of turned into an argument between it is either totally ok to kill assholes whenever you want because they are not human, or all people are human and should never be killed.

With a few bright points in between of people pointing out that both views are wrong.

And they are both stupid views, the latter probably less stupid than the former being 100% wrong instead of just wrong on the tail end of it there.

BitVyper

02-02-2011, 11:01 PM

Yeah no, if you didn't read the early part of the thread, it'd be pretty easy to make that misconception.

Krylo

02-02-2011, 11:02 PM

Yeah no, if you didn't read the early part of the thread, it'd be pretty easy to make that misconception.

Or if you read the early part, and then came back later.

Edit: It's a matter of just not connecting what someone said on the first page with being said by the same person on the fourth page, and then combining the two into one coherent person. And even after doing that you still have to figure out which page they were being hypothetical on and which one they were being honest on, or if they were being honest in both but their view on the rapists lightened after thinking about whether they were human or something.

Basically, I'm saying that the way the argument was handled basically made it a really easy misreading no matter where you came into it.

Premmy

02-02-2011, 11:14 PM

Well ACTUALLY the argument wasn't so much about whether killing was good or bad so much as it was about how the story was presented and what that says about the people reading it/reporting it.

To paraphrase Zilla a bit

I kinda don't view this as a "Kick-ass man kicks a lot of ass" story and more a "Something horrible happened and so a man was forced to kill some people" story, and I find that sad and want to discuss other views on it

And a few quotes either addressed the undertone of "killing r bad" in it or actually addressed her point after she restated it.

And then Torque posted, and then everybody made fun of Torque. Then Krylo posted, then Torque interpreted Krylo's post as a support of Torque's "They did bad so they not human" stance, and then Funka Happened

Fifthfiend

02-02-2011, 11:20 PM

Hey Fifth, quit being a dickhole to people who agree with you over all that agreeing with you they're doing.

POS if you don't think there is any reason outside of being a dickhole that someone would feel a need to try to figure out whether or not someone is disagreeing with them via posts that are actually 100% in agreement with them then I have no idea where under God's blue sky you think you are posting, but goddamn I wish I was posting there too.

Krylo

02-02-2011, 11:27 PM

Well ACTUALLY the argument wasn't so much about whether killing was good or bad so much as it was about how the story was presented and what that says about the people reading it/reporting it.

Well I mean I'll put it like this, maybe every one of these three guys to a man was like, nice to his mother, and donated to the poor, and spent their weekends volunteering at a hospital for old people, and once... ran into a burning building to save a child, and then totally through no fault of their own fetched up against such hard times that they saw no other way to deal with this than to join a gang of 39 other absolutely excellent people and then rob a train at gunpoint.

But like, then for some reason they chose to take part in a group rape. And like, it'd be okay if this guy had manage to stop them from raping this girl without killing them, like the eight other people he only injured, but if killing three of them was just part of the process of preventing this rape, then nobody is really obligated to regret any of that, because if you want your death to be regrettable, you don't attempt gang rape at gunpoint.

AINT THAT SOME SHIT

No it really ain't! You are dead, the guy who killed you gets to be an awesome hero, people get to go WELL DONE, AWESOME HERO and not feel bad about you dyin' at all, your kids and townspeople and old people you helped get to go WAY TO GET KILLED TRYING TO RAPE A GIRL, YOU DICK.

I think Fifth already posted the perfect response to that.

POS Industries

02-02-2011, 11:28 PM

POS if you don't think there is any reason outside of being a dickhole that someone would feel a need to try to figure out whether or not someone is disagreeing with them via posts that are actually 100% in agreement with them then I have no idea where under God's blue sky you think you are posting, but goddamn I wish I was posting there too.
If you need to berate people whose posts appear to be agreeing with you to figure out whether or not they are, in fact, actually agreeing with you, I don't know where in Satan's steaming jockstrap you're posting but thank you for not inviting me.

Bob The Mercenary

02-02-2011, 11:38 PM

How's about we all cool the fuck down for a second, because we all know where this is going.

This board has really become reminiscent of my parents fighting with each other before their divorce. Small disagreements, I'm talking tiny slips of the tongue, would turn into shouting matches and end with a night of silence. That's what this place has turned into, a fucking dysfunctional family. (in before "we've always been like that")

This was the simplest of simple threads. "This guy is badass" "Yeah, he really is" How did it manage to get derailed into this pile of excrement? Can we actually start holding ourselves together, thickening our skin, taking a joke, letting things go? Please? I'm not one to talk, because lord knows I'm one dumb motherfucker. But guys...this place used to be awesome.

Krylo

02-02-2011, 11:39 PM

This board has really become reminiscent of my parents fighting with each other before their divorce.

Bob... there's... I don't know how to say this but...

Well, we've already filed for the divorce.

Fifthfiend

02-02-2011, 11:43 PM

If you need to berate people

Please indicate who you think is giving off that vibe, based on which of their posts in this thread.

Hahaha I mean I even said please.

EDIT: I was kind of mean to krylo though, true!

Bob The Mercenary

02-02-2011, 11:43 PM

Bob... there's... I don't know how to say this but...

Well, we've already filed for the divorce.

Do you or Fifth get me Wednesdays and every other weekend?

Fifthfiend

02-02-2011, 11:46 PM

KRYLO GETS THEM

ALL THE DAYS

Krylo

02-02-2011, 11:47 PM

I very clearly dictated in the divorce papers that you get full custody.

POS Industries

02-02-2011, 11:47 PM

Hahaha I mean I even said please.
Sir, I'll have you know that we don't cotton to that sort of language 'round these here parts.

EDIT: I was kind of mean to krylo though, true!
Well, it's not like I give a shit about Funka's feelings. I mean, come on!

It's Funka!

Bob The Mercenary

02-02-2011, 11:50 PM

KRYLO GETS THEM

ALL THE DAYS

I very clearly dictated in the divorce papers that you get full custody.

:(

POS Industries

02-02-2011, 11:52 PM

:(
The good news is that you have the foster care system to take you in!

The bad news is that I am the foster system.

DFM

02-02-2011, 11:53 PM

Maybe I'm just used to worse forums or something, but I don't think this thread was bad at all.

Also I guess for clarity I was talkin' about how it isn't good for people to go "I'm glad those guys got killed" or "Too bad he didn't hunt down the rest of those assholes, too." Or whatever.

I mean if you want to praise the guy for being brave, that's cool, he totally was. If you want to praise him for stopping a rape, that's cool, he totally did that too. I don't think you should praise the fact that he killed three people to do it.

I mean, if you're not weeping openly that three attempted rapists were killed while attempting a rape, that is cool, I understand not really giving a shit. And I'm not going to make some stupid value judgment like, "Well, if he had killed FIVE attempted rapists, that would have been worse than one actual rape so that was bad form" or say he should of done something different, I think he's a hero to those people on that train.

But the whole "Look at this badass killing people that's AWESOME" sentiment in the quoted article doesn't really jive with me and I don't think it's a good attitude for anyone to have.

Edit: There's like a page of new posts in front of me now hope they weren't anything important!

Bob The Mercenary

02-02-2011, 11:53 PM

The good news is that you have the foster care system to take you in!

The bad news is that I am the foster system.

:(

POS Industries

02-02-2011, 11:54 PM

:(
I'd tell you that I expect you to call me dad, but frankly I don't want you to speak unless spoken to.

It builds character.

Hatake Kakashi

02-02-2011, 11:56 PM

Maybe I'm just used to worse forums or something, but I don't think this thread was bad at all.

Where the fuck do you haunt? 4Chan?

DFM

02-03-2011, 12:00 AM

Free Republic.

Jagos

02-03-2011, 12:04 AM

... Seek help...

I'm scared for you.

Bob The Mercenary

02-03-2011, 12:06 AM

I'd tell you that I expect you to call me dad, but frankly I don't want you to speak unless spoken to.

It builds character.

http://artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id20432/preview00.jpg

You can't tell me what to do! You're not my father!

POS Industries

02-03-2011, 12:09 AM

http://artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id20432/preview00.jpg

You can't tell me what to do! You're not my father!
I may not be your father, but I'm all you've got!

Funka Genocide

02-03-2011, 12:11 AM

I did read the whole thread, must have just got my wires crossed.

I could probably quote the posts that did the wire crossing, but I suspect you're all reasonably intelligent adults with a penchant for perusing web forums so I'm sure you won't mind if I don't.

(Also I would still flip the fuck out on some bandits for you guys if I had to.)

Bob The Mercenary

02-03-2011, 12:12 AM

I may not be your father, but I'm all you've got!

:(

Fenris

02-03-2011, 12:24 AM

what is this thread i dont even

Funka Genocide

02-03-2011, 12:29 AM

I will say something about the title of this thread though, that's one really fucked up fantasy to have.

Hatake Kakashi

02-03-2011, 12:32 AM

what is this thread i dont even

Just back away slowly, Fenris. Pretend this thread never happened. We don't want your delicate sensibilities, your innocence, or your virginity to be lost here.

Fenris

02-03-2011, 12:34 AM

Just back away slowly, Fenris. Pretend this thread never happened. We don't want your delicate sensibilities, your innocence,
Ha ha like I have any of those thi-

or your virginity to be lost here.
:(

Krylo

02-03-2011, 12:35 AM

:(

Heeeeey, sexy.

POS Industries

02-03-2011, 12:36 AM

Heeeeey, sexy.
Hey guys, I think I just figured out how to combine POSQUESTs 2012 and 2013!

Bob The Mercenary

02-03-2011, 12:37 AM

Hey guys, I think I just figured out how to combine POSQUESTs 2012 and 2013!

Does that mean I'll be getting a stepmom?

DFM

02-03-2011, 12:38 AM

I will say something about the title of this thread though, that's one really fucked up fantasy to have.

You don't understand she'll love me after I save her from the rapists.

POS Industries

02-03-2011, 12:38 AM

Does that mean I'll be getting a stepmom?
DO NOT SPEAK UNLESS SPOKEN TO.

Krylo

02-03-2011, 12:52 AM

You don't understand she'll love me after I save her from the rapists.

How many times do we have to go over this? No one could ever love you. That's why you're stuck with me.

Premmy

02-03-2011, 01:08 AM

So when you saved me from those rapists it wasn't love?

Jagos

02-03-2011, 01:13 AM

There's too much lust mixed in for love.

Hatake Kakashi

02-03-2011, 01:32 AM

:(

Heeeeey, sexy.

*dies laughing*

Magus

02-06-2011, 11:00 PM

I think you are all missing the main point of this story which is that as a Gurkha this guy should have been able to kill all 11 of the rapists that stuck around and maybe thrown his knife and killed at least another three, since Gurkhas are like Navy Seals and Green Berets mixed together with Spetsnaz or something like that. Really this was just a below-average job for one, I bet he hadn't eaten his Wheaties that morning. Also what's with him not using their skulls for drinking vessels now? (I'm assuming that since they are so badass Gurkhas are pretty much the same as Vikings in their practice of drinking out of enemy skulls, correct me if I'm wrong...)

EDIT: As for where I stand on the whole "total non-violence versus berserker death rage" scale where 0 is total nonviolence and 10 is berserker death rage I'm probably about a 6 or 7 in my philosophical outlook, I think that killing the rapists at the time was fine but when he hunts them down later he should only bring them to justice, but it's okay to knock them out with a spinning back kick before handcuffing them.

Professor Smarmiarty

02-07-2011, 05:31 AM

He's not in his natural element though, Gurkhas are jungle ninja not savvy street detectives. It's like Crocodile Dundee all over again

DFM

02-07-2011, 03:57 PM

*rapist whips out his cock*

"THAT's not a knife!"

Edit: I hope this is what happened

Geminex

02-07-2011, 05:49 PM

He's not in his natural element though, Gurkhas are jungle ninja not savvy street detectives. It's like Crocodile Dundee all over again

I'm thinking this was less the fact that he was in any way in his element.

It's more like, this is a highly-trained, super-disciplined guy who kills people for a living, armed with (arguably) his weapon of choice, facing off against a bunch of guys who are probably in terrible physical condition, untrained, not well-armed, generally unprepared, and he's facing them, if not one-at-a-time, then at least in fairly small groups, at close quarters. It's no less heroic of course!
But if you consider the tactics, he has all the advantages. All they have is numbers.

Edit:
Gurkhas aren't special forces, as such. They're not SEALs, or Green Berets, or Spetsnatz. If anything, they're closer to US marines, trained for "symmetric" warfare, but capable of fighting well in environments which would severely disable standard forces. The fact that they're conventional doesn't mean they're not highly trained, though. They kind of have a tradition of just being really good at their job, since, for a lot of recruits, being a soldier is the 'dream carreer'. That is to say, they prepare for it from childhood. Or at least that's how it used to be, not sure if it's still like that.