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Magus
02-09-2011, 12:12 AM
That little old lady on the Wendy's commercial would have a heart attack over Taco Bell's "seasoned ground beef", which apparently consists mostly of the "seasoning" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110125/ts_yblog_thelookout/attorneys-question-whether-what-taco-bell-calls-beef-is-actually-beef) (didn't know oats and soy added a ton of flavor to meat, but anyway):


The late-night crowd knows all too well the allure of Taco Bell's piping-hot creations. But is it really ground beef they're putting in that beef meximelt?

That's the question at the heart of a lawsuit filed recently by the Montgomery, Alabama-based law firm Beasley Allen.

The standard for what constitutes meat as defined by the USDA is pretty straightforward: "flesh of animals." In the "Food Facts" section of its website, Taco Bell says the following about its beef: "Our taco meat is made from USDA-inspected beef and is subjected to quality check points. It tastes great because it's simmered in 12 authentic seasonings and spices and is never frozen. Moreover, our taco meat is leaner than what you'll find in a restaurant-cooked hamburger because of the unique way that we prepare our taco meat and remove fat." But Beasley Allen contends that the company's claims are untrue.

"Rather than beef, these food items are actually made with a substance known as 'taco meat filling,' " the lawsuit says. The firm contends that that Taco Bell shouldn't market the taco meat filling in question as beef because their testing shows that it only contains 36 percent ground beef. If that's true, Taco Bell's meat filling product would fall below the already generous USDA standard for it to qualify as meat -- the present standard demands it consist of at least 40 percent meat. This inspired Gizmodo's Jesus Diaz to crack, "Perhaps they should call it 'Almost Taco Meat Filling.'"

The remainder of the Taco Bell's meat filling product consists of "extenders" like water, "Isolated Oat Product," wheat oats, maltodrextrin, soy lecithin, maltodrextrin, anti-dusting agent, autolyzed yeast extract, modified corn starch, sodium phosphate and silicon dioxide.

Taco Bell actually addresses its use if silicon dioxide in the "Food Facts" section of its website under the question, "I heard a rumor that there's sand in your taco meat?" It then goes on to explain that silicone dioxide is "a safe, common food ingredient" that's "primarily used in food to prevent ingredients from sticking together."

In response, Taco Bell has issued a statement insisting that the suit is unfounded: "Taco Bell prides itself on serving high quality Mexican inspired food with great value. We're happy that the millions of customers we serve every week agree. We deny our advertising is misleading in any way and we intend to vigorously defend the suit."

In any event, the lawsuit's appetite-squelching accusations are likely to provide plenty of unadulterated fodder for late night comedians. "Late Show with David Letterman" head writer Eric Stangel was already making Taco Bell jokes on his Twitter page this morning, cracking that because of the lawsuit we're all finally "about to find out where the Taco Bell Chihuahua went."

UPDATE: Taco Bell President and Chief Concept Officer Greg Creed contacted The Lookout with a strongly worded amended corporate response to the lawsuit:

At Taco Bell, we buy our beef from the same trusted brands you find in the supermarket, like Tyson Foods. We start with 100 percent USDA-inspected beef. Then we simmer it in our proprietary blend of seasonings and spices to give our seasoned beef its signature Taco Bell taste and texture. We are proud of the quality of our beef and identify all the seasoning and spice ingredients on our website. Unfortunately, the lawyers in this case elected to sue first and ask questions later -- and got their "facts" absolutely wrong. We plan to take legal action for the false statements being made about our food."

Now I wouldn't have a problem with this if what Greg Creed said in another statement was true, that it is 88% beef. I could understand that. However, these attorneys have found that it is only 36% beef. The rest is soy, oats, and other fillers, along with a small amount of spices. Here is the ingredient list from the taco bell website (http://www.tacobell.com/nutrition/ingredient-statement/):



SEASONED GROUND BEEF

Beef, Water, Seasoning [Isolated Oat Product, Salt, Chili Pepper, Onion Powder, Tomato Powder, Oats (Wheat), Soy Lecithin, Sugar, Spices, Maltodextrin, Soybean Oil (Anti-dusting Agent), Garlic Powder, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Citric Acid, Caramel Color, Cocoa Powder (Processed With Alkali), Silicon Dioxide, Natural Flavors, Yeast, Modified Corn Starch, Natural Smoke Flavor], Salt, Sodium Phosphates. CONTAINS SOYBEAN, WHEAT

So there have been a lot of jokes about the sort of mystery meat filling that goes into Taco Bell tacos, but I don't think anybody realized it is this bad. It's so bad that they aren't even meeting the minimum requirement for calling it "beef" filling--40% meat. That's pretty bad. And when you factor in the fact that in most of their value menu tacos that involve beef they are also sticking in copious amounts of refried beans and other ingredients, the amount of beef in one of these tacos may be quite miniscule indeed.

In any case, if eating at Taco Bell you may want to focus on tacos involving more meat, but they are not on the value menu or 2 dollar meal deals. I think we can all see now how they afforded to offer a 2 dollar meal deal--by cutting the amount of meat in their tacos to miniscule amounts. Their more expensive tacos seem to have less of the filler, such as in their chicken or steak tacos:


SOUTHWEST CHICKEN

Chicken Breast Meat With Rib Meat, Water, Seasoning [Salt, Maltodextrin, Spices, Garlic Powder, Chili Pepper, Paprika, Onion Powder, Carrageenan, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate, Natural Flavoring, Mixed Triglycerides, Yeast, Modified Corn Starch, Corn Syrup Solids, Yeast Extract, Alginates (Sodium, Calcium And/Or Ammonium), Cellulose, Calcium Chloride, Sodium Benzoate Used To Protect Quality, Not More Than 2% Silicon Dioxide Added To Prevent Caking, Soybean Oil], Modified Food Starch, Sodium Phosphates Soy Lecithin (Used As A Processing Aid). CONTAINS SOYBEANS

...

STEAK

Beef, Water, Seasoning [Modified Potato Starch, Salt, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Dextrose, Maltodextrin, Carrageenan, Paprika, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, Spices, Hot Sauce (Aged Red Peppers, Vinegar, Salt), Citric Acid, Sugar, Dehydrated Vinegar, Soybean Oil, Natural Flavors, Soybean Lecithin], Sodium Phosphates. Sauce: Water, Seasoning (Salt, Caramel Color, Modified Food Starch, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Maltodextrin, Dextrose, Garlic Powder, Xanthan Gum, Onion Powder, Beef Stock, Vinegar Solids, Natural Flavors, Citric Acid, Sugar, Thiamine Hydrochloride, Succinic Acid, Soy Lecithin, Beef Fat, Potassium Sorbate) Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, BHT. CONTAINS SOYBEANS

They still contain soy but not oat fillers and the soy is listed as being lower on the list of ingredients, implying that there is less than in the "seasoned ground beef", which by all rights cannot be called beef under USDA regulations. I suppose to ask Taco Bell to at least raise their beef content to the minimum 40% (a rather hilarious minimum in and of itself), but this is just ignoring the larger problem of food quality, really.

DFM
02-09-2011, 12:19 AM
This made me hungry for Taco Bell.

Kim
02-09-2011, 12:24 AM
I was hoping that the thread would be an ambiguous one where we come up with our own answers.

I was going to say "In my pants" but now that dream is forever ruined.

Thanks a bunch, Magus.

T_T

Krylo
02-09-2011, 12:25 AM
Their meat is, apparently, half sand, and it still tastes a hundred times better than Taco John's.

DFM
02-09-2011, 12:27 AM
I had Taco John's tacos once during summer school when a friend brought them in and I don't know I thought they were pretty good.

But I haven't seen a Taco John's in forever so I guess most people agree with you.

bluestarultor
02-09-2011, 12:33 AM
I prefer Taco John's to Taco Bell, myself.

This honestly wold surprise me more if I hadn't already known they, at least at one point, used such low-grade meat that people thought it often had worms in it, mistaking the gristle for something even less savory.

mauve
02-09-2011, 12:37 AM
I read about this a few weeks ago.

Last I heard, Taco Bell was filling a counter-lawsuit, saying the attourneys' testing was flawed and their results inaccurate.

Magus
02-09-2011, 12:45 AM
Then why haven't I seen the 88% beef statement on the website? I only saw it on a video of some kind on The Daily Show, I believe. If it's 88% beef point that out somewhere in your ingredient factoid section, Taco Bell, not just in a video I can't find on the internets. If it's 36% I don't see how you can make it out to look like a good thing, Taco Bell.

Also this Creed guy is Australian, that just makes their total unrelatedness to actual authenticity even more blatant. Like if it was some American white guy they could pretend he was from the Southwest or something. But Australia is REALLY Southwest...

BTW what is a Taco John's? Shouldn't it be Taco Juan's? John isn't even topical! I don't know how Bells are exactly, but I mean...I dunno...those churches in the westerns have bells that ring ominously at high noon. Also bell peppers? John though that's just totally unrelated.

Also, this isn't to say it doesn't taste good. If you put enough MSG and spices into ground up tires you could probably make it taste pretty good (someone should try this...). The question though is one of authenticity and truthfulness, and if it's not even meat I'm eating why am I eating a taco, I could just go buy taco chips and salsa or something and probably get more out of it. Or I might choose a taco of theirs that has more meat. Or I might eat someplace else. Transparency on this topic would be a good thing.

Seil
02-09-2011, 12:52 AM
I prefer to make my own tacos.

Also, according to Cracked: (http://www.cracked.com/article_18994_6-subtle-ways-youre-getting-screwed-at-grocery-store.html)

In the food industry, the practice of only halfway-filling containers with actual food is called "slack fill." Chip-makers want a cushion of air around their products as protection, because nothing sucks more than getting a bag full of smooshed chip bits, except maybe getting a bag full of empty, which is what it seems like sometimes.

The problem is that even though the FDA allows for some air space as food protection, sneaky manufacturers have been more than willing to abuse the system by halfway filling comically large bags with their products. So you think you're getting a big ol' bag of goodness when you're really not getting all that much ...


That sneaky dimple was put there for one reason: to put about two fewer ounces of peanut butter in the jar without the customer noticing. But manufacturers are keeping the prices the same, and sometimes even raising them. And peanut butter makers aren't the only ones pulling this shit, either.

A toilet roll might have the same number of sheets, but the sheets are an inch shorter, or worse, thinner. Cereal boxes are getting thinner while remaining the same height and width, to give the illusion of containing the same amount. A Hershey's chocolate bar has gotten an ounce and a half lighter yet sports the word "Giant," presumably because Hershey's thinks chocolate lovers are morons.


Apparently it's a pretty common practice to hide the food under a whole bunch of BS.

Krylo
02-09-2011, 12:54 AM
BTW what is a Taco John's? Shouldn't it be Taco Juan's? John isn't even topical! I don't know how Bells are exactly, but I mean...I dunno...those churches in the westerns have bells that ring ominously at high noon. Also bell peppers? John though that's just totally unrelated.

It bills itself as TexMex. The John is obviously Texan.

They have these hashbrown things with cheese and jalapenos in them that are pretty good. Edit: Potato Oles.

The actual meat, however, tastes like someone ate mexican, and then shat on a tortilla.

Magus
02-09-2011, 12:56 AM
Yeah the giant Hershey bars are now the size of the old ones. It's quite despicable. One could pretend they were doing it for our health--if the price were lowered. But it's not, they just want to make money So always check the ounces--you actually get more chocolate out of a pack of those bite-sized Hershey bars than you do out of the same price in regular bars if you check the actual ounces. Who expected to get more chocolate out of those "funsized" things? I didn't! But it's actually more chocolate for the same price, cheaper by the pound than the bigger bars.

They are now giving people less ice cream, less yogurt, less chips, less cereal, less sauce, whatever, if you check the ounces, all for the same price. It's deceitful because the containers are usually the same size or otherwise designed so you don't know it.

Anyway, I do have one good thing to say about Taco Bell in light of these recent accusations: it's still the only place you can get Baja Blast Mountain Dew, which is just delicious. If they ever sold that stuff outside Taco Bell it would probably put a small dent in their earnings, I'd bet.

Until it is revealed that Baja Blast Mountain Dew is only 36% Baja Blast Mountain Dew, and the rest is llama piss or something. Delicious llama piss but llama piss nonetheless.

Marc v4.0
02-09-2011, 12:57 AM
oats, soy and sand taste really gorddam good

Magus
02-09-2011, 01:06 AM
But I find ironic that the damn tacos are still fattening as hell. (http://www.tacobell.com/nutrition/information) Must be the tortilla and sour cream.

Krylo
02-09-2011, 01:07 AM
oats, soy and sand taste really gorddam good

This is why I use oatmeal when I make meatloaf.

But I find ironic that the damn tacos are still fattening as hell. (http://www.tacobell.com/nutrition/information) Must be the tortilla and sour cream.

I find it infinitely more likely that Taco Bell isn't lying about the lawyers lying about the beef content. If Taco Bell were lying the tacos would be much healthier (oats and soy are health food, after all), and they wouldn't be trying to counter sue because it would just be a waste of litigation money.

I mean, they could be lying and be using the counter sue as a method to drain resources from their opponents/drum up better PR, but I find it doubtful they'd do so without valid evidence because the risks of it blowing up in their faces is too great otherwise.

Though tortillas ARE made with lard or butter. Well good ones are. Don't know about Taco Bell's.

synkr0nized
02-09-2011, 01:10 AM
I want tacos and fajitas now.

Krylo
02-09-2011, 01:11 AM
I want tacos and fajitas now.

I could give you a good recipe for home made tortillas.

synkr0nized
02-09-2011, 01:15 AM
I also decided that the grocery store would be better than just driving to Taco Bell, as much as I might like their not-beef. I could then get all the materials I need to make fajitas and pack them how I want, with tons of meat!

Krylo
02-09-2011, 01:21 AM
Two cups flour, 1/2 tsp baking soda, 1/2 tsp salt, 1/4 cup fat (use either butter or lard, or a combination). Work together until it sticks together but crumbles a bit. Then add 3/4 cup warm/hot water. Mix until it's kinda sticky, but not too much. And a bit elasticy. I usually stop once all the flour is mixed in and it's just sticky enough to pull bits of itself off my hands. Like silly putty.

Tear into about 9 roughly golf ball sized balls, cover with damp towel for 20 minutes, flatten, fry for abooooout 20 seconds on each side over medium heat.

Do any mixing with your hands or an electric mixer. Whisks, spoons, forks, that kind of thing? Doesn't work. It's too thick.

Enjoy.

Marc v4.0
02-09-2011, 01:27 AM
There is no "or butter". You use lard and you damn well like it!

I'm with Krylo on this, the nutritional facts don't add up for the beef to be made mostly of oats and soy.

You really use oatmeal in your meatloaf? How does it taste? I am always looking for ways to improve my inherited meatloaf recipe.

Krylo
02-09-2011, 01:29 AM
You really use oatmeal in your meatloaf? How does it taste? I am always looking for ways to improve my inherited meatloaf recipe.

Delicious.

I don't really have a recipe, though. I just toss whatever into it, and then whatever into a sauce for the top. Last time I had fennel seed, cayenne pepper, pressed garlic, and I don't know what else in the loaf proper, and tomato soup, melted cheese, hot sauce, brown sugar, and liquid smoke in the sauce drizzled over the top a little over halfway through cooking.

I also eyeball the amount of oatmeal.

Edit: To clarify on the taste, you can't taste the actual oatmeal flavor much, as it absorbs a lot of the grease from the meat. Also because oatmeal is kinda blandish.

It gives it a good texture, however, if you use the right amount of it.

Marc v4.0
02-09-2011, 01:34 AM
what do you normally eye ball it to, in relation to the amount of meat?

edit: I have found ritz or off-brand ritz add a sort of buttery undetone to the meatloaf over breadcrumbs.

Krylo
02-09-2011, 01:37 AM
It's been awhile, but once you mix it up you want about a half inch or so between flakes of oatmeal in the beef.

There's a few actual measured recipes you can find out there. I'd try one of those and then adjusting from there once you get a feel for it.

What do you use to harden your meatloaf in your recipe? I think it takes a little less oatmeal than rice (and I don't like the texture rice gives it, either).

Edit: Ah, Crackers. I'd say less than you'd use in crackers or bread crumbs normally, unless you let the bread crumbs harden. Oatmeal is a bit more absorbant than either of those.

Buttery ritz would probably taste pretty good, though.

Marc v4.0
02-09-2011, 01:44 AM
Hm, yeah I can't imagine rice being very tolorable in meatloaf for me.

I would need to look up the actual amount of crackers used, but 'less then' is more then enough to make an educated guess at it. Rolled or steel-cut, or does it really matter that much in the final product at all?

Krylo
02-09-2011, 01:48 AM
I use rolled oats. I imagine steel cut would give it a different texture, but I couldn't tell you how much of one as I've never tried it.

Marc v4.0
02-09-2011, 01:51 AM
Alright, this should make for an interesting topic next family gathering. Thanks.

Hatake Kakashi
02-09-2011, 02:08 AM
I'm totally down for meatloaf. Long as you fuckers aren't cramming onions into it. Then it becomes shitloaf.

Marc v4.0
02-09-2011, 02:20 AM
maybe bell peppers and garlic

pochercoaster
02-09-2011, 08:40 AM
I would need to look up the actual amount of crackers used, but 'less then' is more then enough to make an educated guess at it. Rolled or steel-cut, or does it really matter that much in the final product at all?

I wouldn't use steel cut oats. They've been processed less than rolled oats and I imagine they wouldn't do as good a job at absorbing grease or giving it the right texture (they're hard until they've absorbed some water and they take about 20 minutes to cook in water, so...) They also have a stronger flavour than rolled oats.

OT: $2 tacos barely contain meat! Shocking!

I ate at Taco Bell once when I was, I dunno, 10, promptly thought it was disgusting and never ate their again. Never heard of Taco John's though- I don't think it exists in Canada.

I'm with Krylo on making your own, but I prefer to make corn tortillas because they're healthier and easier to make, in that they're not elastic and thus roll out easier than flour tortillas. My flour tortillas always come out a bit too tough- I can't find the sweet spot between the ingredients being just combined enough to work, but not so combined that the gluten's been so overdeveloped they're nearly impossible to roll into a disc.

Azisien
02-09-2011, 09:44 AM
Back in the good old days, I went to restaurants that had almost pure meat on their menu items...

Donomni
02-09-2011, 12:48 PM
Considering I go out to eat at least twice a week, it's always unsettling to hear about the food I can afford not actually being the food I'd like to eat, even if it's just finger-pointing at this point.

I really try not to think about it too much.

Flarecobra
02-09-2011, 01:12 PM
Never heard of Taco Johns.

And there's no real Taco Bells around where I live. Lots of local REAL Mexican places though.

ChaoticBrain
02-09-2011, 02:22 PM
And this is why I eat at Chipotle.

Magus
02-09-2011, 10:15 PM
Actually the tacos are even cheaper than 2 dollars. For 2 dollars you get the taco, a medium fountain drink, and a bag of Doritos.

Apparently Taco Bell is going to offer free tacos somehow in the wake of this controversy, now we can get more fake meat but for free, they are going to prove to us through flavor and zero pricing that we secretly want to eat Taco Bell regardless of what is in it. Not sure how you get the free taco though, probably a coupon or something.

EDIT: Apparently you get it through Taco Bell's Facebook page. (http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/2011/02/taco_bell_giving_away_10_milli.php) But it's one free crunchy "taco"--I like their soft-shelled "tacos".

Also, I found the newspaper ad Taco Bell ran that claims it is 88% beef (http://blogs.citypages.com/food/2011/01/taco_bell_thank_you_for_suing_us_newspaper_ad.php)--because as we all know everyone reads newspapers and this makes it really easy for everyone to hear the news.

In response to a lawsuit alleging fake beef at the border, Taco Bell has taken the unusual step of running a full-page ad in newspapers nationwide headlined, "Thank you for suing us."

The ad ran yesterday in USA Today, Wall Street Journal, and the New York Times, and appeared on page A5 of today's Star Tribune.

The ad attempts to debunk the notion that Taco Bell uses fake beef because of cheapness. "The only reason we add anything to our beef is to give the meat flavor and quality. Otherwise we'd end up with nothing more than the bland flavor of ground beef, and that doesn't make for great-tasting tacos."

TacoBellNewspaperAd (Medium).jpg
?Here's the breakdown of beef ingredients, according to the ad:

88% Beef
3% Water
4% "Mexican spices" including salt, chili pepper, onion power, cocoa powder, sugar, etc.
5% Oats, carmalized sugar, yeast, citric acid, and other ingredients for flavor



What do you think? Does this ad campaign reassure you that Taco Bell beef is fit for consumption?

Man, this makes me hungry for tacos.

Krylo
02-09-2011, 10:17 PM
And this is why I eat at Chipotle.

Yessssssssssssss

The nearest Chipotle's is like four hours away, though. Which is lame as fuck.

Marc v4.0
02-09-2011, 10:18 PM
Actually the tacos are even cheaper than 2 dollars. For 2 dollars you get the taco, a medium fountain drink, and a bag of Doritos.

Apparently Taco Bell is going to offer free tacos somehow in the wake of this controversy, now we can get more fake meat but for free, they are going to prove to us through flavor and zero pricing that we secretly want to eat Taco Bell regardless of what is in it. Not sure how you get the free taco though, probably a coupon or something.

Last free taco day, you just walked up to the counter and asked them to give you taco, then went about your merry way

Magus
02-09-2011, 10:29 PM
You gotta go on Facebook now, as I ninja'd in my earlier post. Also apparently it is actually 88% beef or that's what they're claiming in print anyway, which is a pretty strong statement.

PyrosNine
02-09-2011, 10:49 PM
I have implied earlier as to my slight hispanic nature, and my family is in no immediate need for Tacos so as to rush over to Taco Bell. Tacos are simple, stupid food, made when tu mama is too tired to make something good, so she toasts a rice, corn, or wheat tortilla, stuffs it with chicken or beef, and puts a bit of lettuce, tomato, and sour cream. It's the equivalent of some southern families simply buying a large baguette roll and a roast chicken and calling the combination of the two a meal.

Our hispanic food is when we go to the local place where they know our name and speak our language, and eat things like grilled chicken with adobo (mexican style) served with dirty rice and beans; "Mama Maria's Pollo."

All that said though, my brother drives over to Taco Bell whenever he can to get a $1 burrito, and when he does my mother wants a Taco Grande and I want a grilled stuft burrito, with the icy fruit drink things. And the cinnamon twists.

And a toy!

I personally don't see the appeal in tacos: They're dry, when eaten they become messy, the rigid shell shattering into a million pieces with one bite, sending all sorts of whatnot onto your lap, they get soggy real easy and then taste terrible, and sometimes you'll bite too hard and stab yourself in the gum with the taco shell. I enjoy messy food, but sometimes I draw a line and instead of just calling it messy food, it's just nuisance food.

A burrito on the other hand is well self contained. It has more beef and filling, easily reheatable, and doesn't explode into a million pieces when I bite (when well wrapped. When I make burritos on the other hand...)

Marc v4.0
02-09-2011, 11:02 PM
I prefer tamales but I have to make them myself to assure they are any good and I can't be arsed to go to all that trouble every other day. I wish I could, though, would be nice...

Krylo
02-09-2011, 11:04 PM
I have implied earlier as to my slight hispanic nature, and my family is in no immediate need for Tacos so as to rush over to Taco Bell. Tacos are simple, stupid food, made when tu mama is too tired to make something good, so she toasts a rice, corn, or wheat tortilla, stuffs it with chicken or beef, and puts a bit of lettuce, tomato, and sour cream. It's the equivalent of some southern families simply buying a large baguette roll and a roast chicken and calling the combination of the two a meal.

Our hispanic food is when we go to the local place where they know our name and speak our language, and eat things like grilled chicken with adobo (mexican style) served with dirty rice and beans; "Mama Maria's Pollo."

All that said though, my brother drives over to Taco Bell whenever he can to get a $1 burrito, and when he does my mother wants a Taco Grande and I want a grilled stuft burrito, with the icy fruit drink things. And the cinnamon twists.

And a toy!

I personally don't see the appeal in tacos: They're dry, when eaten they become messy, the rigid shell shattering into a million pieces with one bite, sending all sorts of whatnot onto your lap, they get soggy real easy and then taste terrible, and sometimes you'll bite too hard and stab yourself in the gum with the taco shell. I enjoy messy food, but sometimes I draw a line and instead of just calling it messy food, it's just nuisance food.

A burrito on the other hand is well self contained. It has more beef and filling, easily reheatable, and doesn't explode into a million pieces when I bite (when well wrapped. When I make burritos on the other hand...)

There is much truth in this post.

I really can't stand hard shell tacos. Though lots of places serve soft shell tacos. Though I'm not sure what the actual difference is between soft shell tacos and burritos.

Also, there's the issue of the grilled stuffed burrito instead of the volcano burrito.

Hatake Kakashi
02-10-2011, 12:17 AM
I've become fond of places that sell "mission-style" burritos as of late. Taco Del Mar is currently one of my favorites. You go in and have em build it like a sandwich at subway. What kind of Tortilla? (Flour) Sour Cream and Guacamole? (Cream please) Steak, chicken, ground beef, pork, or shredded beef? (Steak, duh) Pico de gallo? (No thanks) Black beans or refried? (Black) Cheese? (Lots) Lettuce, Onion, Olives, Rice? (Rice and olives, please.) Salsa? (Hot, please)

By the time they're done, you have this massive roll of mexi-goodness that you have to unwrap as you eat. It's totally worth the price, so damn good.

As for when I hit taco bell? I go for the Cheesy Gordita Crunch (substitute steak for the taco meat), and the Mountain Dew Baja Blast.

Speaking of missing meat, I found out where it went. (http://dinnerinabottle.com/) Drink up!