The Miss USA Pageant is awful awful awful

[Kim]

fuck this terrible country (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkBmhM0R2A0&feature=youtu.be)

raaaaaarghfrglebldlkfjslfkjdsjkflksdlfjsdklfdsfjdk slf

I hate everything forever.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I don't understand what this thread is about.

[Jagos]

I don't understand what this thread is about.


The Miss Beauty Pageant is full of idiots with 3rd rate educations.

This is NOT privy to only the US though...

[Loyal]

I guess the Miss USA candidates aren't chosen for their brains, then?

[Flarecobra]

Since when are they picked for their brains?

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Evolution in action.

But really, beauty contestantpageants say stupid things. Not exactly the most surprising of relevations.

[Kim]

This is NOT privy to only the US though...

You keep the perspective of "stupid people like this live in other countries, too" to feel better about living in the states.

I keep the perspective of "America is worse than the civilized world as a whole" to feel better about living in the first place.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

How is this an inditement on anything? It's a very small sample of ncredibly not representative people, who are actively campaigning in an environment where the wrong answer will cost you the chance of winning.

[Kim]

How is this an inditement on anything? It's a very small sample of ncredibly not representative people, who are actively campaigning in an environment where the wrong answer will cost you the chance of winning.

But the stupid answers they are giving are being given because they're the "right" answer, which reflects on the country as a whole.

[Fifthfiend]

I can't listen to the video to see whether I'm right, but I'd at least suggest the possibility that at least some of the candidates' answers have less to do with intelligence and more to do with their own prejudices and/or the need to pander to the uninformed prejudices of others.

The pro-ignorance faction of our society is quite a large one and it also disproportionately tends to make up the audience for this sort of pageant.

It's not as if anti-evolution views are limited to unintelligent and uneducated people, there are plenty of people who are otherwise quite knowledgable and informed, particularly in their own specializations, who reject this particular bit of knowledge, along with various others, because it doesn't conform to what they want to believe.

Again, I can't actually watch the video until I get home from work so I mean maybe they all do just come across as super dumb.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Eh. So some people are a little ignorant or value their faith more than science. Not all of these women gave bullshit answers. Sure, they were fairly diplomatic and sometimes silly, but some of them seem to have put a bit of thought into it.

[Kim]

I can't listen to the video to see whether I'm right, but I'd at least suggest the possibility that at least some of the candidates' answers have less to do with intelligence and more to do with their own prejudices and/or the need to pander to the uninformed prejudices of others.

The pro-ignorance faction of our society is quite a large one and it also disproportionately tends to make up the audience for this sort of pageant.

It's not as if anti-evolution views are limited to unintelligent and uneducated people, there are plenty of people who are otherwise quite knowledgable and informed, particularly in their own specializations, who reject this particular bit of knowledge because it doesn't conform to what they want to believe.

Again, I can't actually watch the video until I get home from work so I mean maybe they all do just come across as super dumb.

They all do come off as pretty stupid, but it also drives me up the wall because their stupid answers are due, at least in part, due to pandering to groups who make up a large part of our country's population.

[POS Industries]

I can't listen to the video to see whether I'm right, but I'd at least suggest the possibility that at least some of the candidates' answers have less to do with intelligence and more to do with their own prejudices and/or the need to pander to the uninformed prejudices of others.

The pro-ignorance faction of our society is quite a large one and it also disproportionately tends to make up the audience for this sort of pageant.

It's not as if anti-evolution views are limited to unintelligent and uneducated people, there are plenty of people who are otherwise quite knowledgable and informed, particularly in their own specializations, who reject this particular bit of knowledge, along with various others, because it doesn't conform to what they want to believe.

Again, I can't actually watch the video until I get home from work so I mean maybe they all do just come across as super dumb.
Yeah, it's basically this. Beauty pageants are basically political competitions between pretty women in swimsuits and evening gowns, garnering the support of the sort of people who actually care about beauty pageants, which is mostly an even distribution of perverts and the mothers of women who take part in beauty pageants.

You keep the perspective of "stupid people like this live in other countries, too" to feel better about living in the states.

I keep the perspective of "America is worse than the civilized world as a whole" to feel better about living in the first place.
But the stupid answers they are giving are being given because they're the "right" answer, which reflects on the country as a whole.
I'm just going to go out on a limb here and hazard a guess that the IQ points involved don't really go up to any significant degree when you move up to the Miss World and Miss Universe tiers, to be perfectly honest.

[Kim]

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and hazard a guess that the IQ points involved don't really go up to any significant degree when you move up to the Miss World and Miss Universe tiers, to be perfectly honest.

I keep the perspective of "America is worse than the civilized world as a whole" to feel better about living in the first place.

Do you want me to die, POS?

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?

[akaSM]

I'm wondering, do US schools teach religion? If so, which one?

I'm talking about public/government schools BTW

[Aerozord]

its all from going in with the wrong mindset. These questions aren't about personal opinion or intelligence to a degree not even politics. Its merely a way to make sure the winner is someone that will draw good press and handle herself in the way you want for the 8 weeks they are relevant to the media.

Also America is far from the worst. There are nations that have spartan beauty bootcamps where they are groomed from early childhood to be pagent winning machines.

[Nikose Tyris]

Actually Miss Vermont was entirely reasonable and fantastic.

Miss California also seemd to have a reasonable view on things, just a bit derpier. [she won.]

[POS Industries]

Do you want me to die, POS?

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
WHAT SORT OF LIFE IS IT IF IT HINGES ON A LIE?

[Jagos]

You keep the perspective of "stupid people like this live in other countries, too" to feel better about living in the states.

I keep the perspective of "America is worse than the civilized world as a whole" to feel better about living in the first place.

...

I had a friend in a pageant in another country. Her response to "what is beauty" (which I saw live) was so haughty and arrogant (similar to her personality) that she was blacklisted from other events for a time.

I stand by my original statement.

[Shyria Dracnoir]

I'm wondering, do US schools teach religion? If so, which one?

I'm talking about public/government schools BTW

I lived in Colorado Springs (you might know us for Ted Haggard and Focus on the Family) and never had a class like that in any of the public schools I attended. You'd have to go to a parochial school to see those, and even then I've heard most of the liberal ones make concessions for people not of the faith (a non-Catholic going to a Catholic school might have a free study period instead of attending a mass, and a lot [but not all] have policy enforced to prevent proselytizing).

And yes, the Catholic schools cover evolution in their science curriculum. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_evolution#Catholic_schools_and _evolution)

[synkr0nized]

I don't understand how assuming the country you live in is worse than the rest of the world helps you live. If that were true, wouldn't you move somewhere else where it was better so you'd be healthier?



Anyway, for a real post.
I'm only four minutes in and already I can tell several of these young women are answering while very conscious of the various folks who will probably see their response. And several have promoted evolution just as much as creationism or its ilk. If this trend continues for the rest of the video, I would posit that perhaps you're focusing too much on the responses from girls like the one from Alabama. I mean come on, we all know no one from Alabama is intelligent.

[Kim]

WHAT SORT OF LIFE IS IT IF IT HINGES ON A LIE?

A BETTER ONE THAN ACCEPTING THE TRUTH

[akaSM]

I lived in Colorado Springs (you might know us for Ted Haggard and Focus on the Family) and never had a class like that in any of the public schools I attended. You'd have to go to a parochial school to see those, and even then I've heard most of the liberal ones make concessions for people not of the faith (a non-Catholic going to a Catholic school might have a free study period instead of attending a mass, and a lot [but not all] have policy enforced to prevent proselytizing)

Oh that's better. Many of the responses the girls gave made me think that you HAVE to learn religion at school or something. I like Miss Vermont's response ^_^

[Kyanbu The Legend]

WHAT SORT OF LIFE IS IT IF IT HINGES ON A LIE?

Some lies are worth living, POS. Some lies are worth defending.

It's is so much more easier to live believing not every country is messed up in it's own obvious/less obvious way.


I'm not all too fond of pageants really. They bore me to death and it just feels weird watching them.

[Intern Nin]

A BETTER ONE THAN ACCEPTING THE TRUTH

Yes, what sense is there in yearning for truth?

Close your eyes. Lie to yourself. Put on make-up and a pretty dress. Spout out a bunch of shallow, pandering answers to hard questions. Live in blissful ignorance.

It is a much smarter way to live.

[Aerozord]

well to be fair, the truth is pretty depressing

[Marc v4.0]

well to be fair, the truth is pretty depressing

The Truth is harsh, depressing, unforgiving, gives no fucks, and will better us all.

That is how you know it is the Truth.

[Bells]

The Truth is harsh, depressing, unforgiving, gives no fucks, and will better us all.

That is how you know it is the Truth.

Little did you all knew that this thread was a Ploy. this is actually the MISS NPF Pageant. And to keep it Realz, you were not told that this was part of your trial,

So now it is with much pleasure that i present the Crown to Marc v1.0... because he IS... MISS NPF 2011!!

There he is, Miss NPF
There he is, your ideal
The dream of a million nerds who are more than pretty can come true
in Atlantic City... or whatever
For he may turn out to be the Queen of femininity... or something!

There he is, Miss NPF
There he is, your ideal
With so many beauties he took the town by storm
With his all-American face and form

And there he is
Walking on air, he is
Fairest of the fair, he is
There he is - Miss NPF

[Jagos]

A better question for this pageant:

What is a man?

[The Sevenshot Kid]

A better question for this pageant:

What is a man?

*insert obvious Dracula quote*

[Nikose Tyris]

From the looks of things, Miss Nebraska.

[mauve]

Little did you all knew that this thread was a Ploy. this is actually the MISS NPF Pageant. And to keep it Realz, you were not told that this was part of your trial,

So now it is with much pleasure that i present the Crown to Marc v1.0... because he IS... MISS NPF 2011!!

There he is, Miss NPF
There he is, your ideal
The dream of a million nerds who are more than pretty can come true
in Atlantic City... or whatever
For he may turn out to be the Queen of femininity... or something!

There he is, Miss NPF
There he is, your ideal
With so many beauties he took the town by storm
With his all-American face and form

And there he is
Walking on air, he is
Fairest of the fair, he is
There he is - Miss NPF

Psshhhh. This pageant is rigged. Come on, we all know Marc's corporate sponsors paid off the judges, and sabotaged Miss General Subforum's act in the talent competition.

We all know that chandelier didn't fall down by itself.

[Dracorion]

@Miss Hawaii: Heh, creationitism.

[rpgdemon]

*insert obvious Dracula quote*

Isn't it from Castlevania? I read Dracula, and there was no such quote.

[Jagos]

From the looks of things, Miss Nebraska.

Nevada looks like she got in a fight with her and lost...

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Isn't it from Castlevania? I read Dracula, and there was no such quote.

Yeah. I couldn't remember if it was from Castlevania or one of the thousand other things that Dracula is in (Blade Trinity *shudder*) so I just attributed it to the character.

[Jagos]

Yeah. I couldn't remember if it was from Castlevania or one of the thousand other things that Dracula is in (Blade Trinity *shudder*) so I just attributed it to the character.

Symphony of the Night, ya dawgone whippersnappers!

[Aerozord]

*insert obvious Dracula quote*

I will say anyone that answers with that deserves to win

[Shyria Dracnoir]

Psshhhh. This pageant is rigged. Come on, we all know Marc's corporate sponsors paid off the judges, and sabotaged Miss General Subforum's act in the talent competition.

We all know that chandelier didn't fall down by itself.

Just like we all know that he planted Miss News and Current Events' smoldering corpse in my dressing room to frame me for her death.

[Bob The Mercenary]

It's not as if anti-evolution views are limited to unintelligent and uneducated people, there are plenty of people who are otherwise quite knowledgable and informed, particularly in their own specializations, who reject this particular bit of knowledge, along with various others, because it doesn't conform to what they want to believe.

I readily accept evolution, but it is far from an open and shut case. Plenty of holes still left in the theory that I am beyond interested in seeing filled. It's a beautiful age we live in.

Also, thank you NonCon, for giving me something to keep in my bookmarks in the event I mistakenly swallow rat poison.

[Krylo]

I readily accept evolution, but it is far from an open and shut case. Plenty of holes still left in the theory that I am beyond interested in seeing filled. It's a beautiful age we live in.

Also, thank you NonCon, for giving me something to keep in my bookmarks in the event I mistakenly swallow rat poison.

BOB DOLE

Dammit, Bob. You're doing it wrong.

[Bells]

Hey! If those other girls were Miss NPF material they would be able to see these coming a mile away, alright?

[Bob The Mercenary]

Dammit, Bob. You're doing it wrong.

I mean...

Bob Dole rejects this satanic teaching in our schools and the corruption of America's youth. We have to go back to our founding values and beliefs that the universe is 5 minutes old and the earth is flat.

Bob Dole.

[Lumenskir]

Thread Title
Uhhhhhhh...nope? (http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/06/20/miss-usa-game-of-thrones/)

[Jagos]

Uhhhhhhh...nope? (http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/06/20/miss-usa-game-of-thrones/)

Well I'll be damned... A geek is actually the US beauty queen...

[Bard The 5th LW]

Oh god someone please put miss Kentucky out of my misery.

[akaSM]

Come on, everyone knows that you can't teach evolution to a child chow unless you teach them religion, there are many cultures with so many different beliefs that you just can't...oh god, I think can feel my brain shutting down :eek:

[Marc v4.0]

You people can't prove anything, now give me my damn crown.

[Solid Snake]

"Personally, I never was taught evolution in school..."

Oh, Arkansas.
Never change, Arkansas.

(Note: I stopped this video at "Arkansas" just to make this comment; if the rest of the country is this bad, I will be ashamed.)

EDIT 1: All right California! Huge science geek, likes evolution and an attractive redhead. Snake approves.

EDIT 2: My home state of Connecticut didn't do bad either. See NonCon, you're overreacting! The cool states got their shit down.

EDIT 3: Delaware did swell, too.

EDIT 4: "You should be knowledged about it." LOL Idaho

EDIT 5: Okay, not all the blue states have their stuff together. New York and New Jersey, you've let me down

EDIT 6: Why do so many of these girls equate evolution to a philosophy and not scientific fact

EDIT 7: VERMONT kickin' ass in the rearguard

EDIT 8: Miss California also was gutsy enough to admit she met her current date via Twitter when all the other girls were like "lolz the very notion of the internet offends me" on another question.

If I were a judge she'd be scoring all the points

[Lumenskir]

Miss California also was gutsy enough to admit she met her current date via Twitter when all the other girls were like "lolz the very notion of the internet offends me" on another question.

If I were a judge she'd be scoring all the points
Congrats, you're qualified to be a Miss USA judge.

Really, the correct title of the thread should be something more realistic, like "A Lot of Miss USA Contestants Say Stupid Things; Fortunately, The Winner is the One Who Said Smart Things; Also, Why Does Anyone Care About Miss USA?"

[Melfice]

While I'd like to hear what Miss Vermont and Miss California have to say, I'd rather not watch the whole video.

If you'd just give me a time when they come on, that'd be swell.

[Osterbaum]

YOU WILL WATCH IT LIKE THE REST OF US

[Melfice]

YOU WILL WATCH IT LIKE THE REST OF US

I am Dutch.
I am well above the rest of you people.

You will provide what I asked for.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

I am Dutch.
I am well above the rest of you people.

You will provide what I asked for.

This is the only natural response to make. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08)

[Fifthfiend]

Also, Why Does Anyone Care About Miss USA?"

As a possibly interesting intersection of various facets of broader American society.

[Gregness]

So, watching HBO fantasy shows and using social networking sites counts as geek cred? I mean, if she said she played dungeons and dragons or something that'd be one thing but...


Eh, I guess it's a step in the right direction.

[Jagos]

So, watching HBO fantasy shows and using social networking sites counts as geek cred? I mean, if she said she played dungeons and dragons or something that'd be one thing but...


Eh, I guess it's a step in the right direction.

Have you SEEN Game of Thrones?

Incest, blood, guts, carnage, and rape?

Yeah... She's either a goth or One of Us. Either way, all kinds of awesome from her.

[Magus]

I find this particular video extremely difficult to masturbate to, as well, Youtube commenter.

[DarkDrgon]

they.... they all are saying the same thing. Every single answer (except california) is "Well, learn both, then decide"

EDIT: oh god... Mississippi....

EDIT 2: Washington.... worse

[Melfice]

This is the only natural response to make. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08)

Well done. Was wondering when somebody'd bring up that film.

[Fenris]

Incest, blood, guts, carnage, and rape?

...One of Us...

Good to know.

[Aerozord]

Incest, blood, guts, carnage, and rape?

or she has the mind set of a 15 year old boy, though some would argue that IS the geek mindset

[Jagos]

Good to know.

*WARNING* I meant this... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneOfUs)

[Fenris]

*WARNING* I meant this... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneOfUs)

I am wholly aware.