Stay Single and you. will. be. screwed

[Kyanbu The Legend]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44122528/ns/health-behavior/?gt1=43001

What the hell!? Even though the arcitle clearly states that this is just probablity and in no is ment to be treated as fact, it STILL pisses me off to no end.


I stayed single for a reason, because I don't feel like dealing with relationship Bullshit that tends to almost always happen atleast half of the time, didn't plan on ever having kids for a LONG time, and every other girl and women I've ever met is either token or is family. I did not need to know that I have a high chance of dieing 10+ years sooner then I want to. What the flying fuck! >_<


Whelp, guess I better get to preping myself for dategeek or whatever and start looking now and weeding out the jerks.

What do you guys think about this article?

[Kerensky287]

Man, I thought from the title that the topic was gonna be more about the virtues of the bachelor lifestyle, or perhaps today's high likelyhood of one-night-stands.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

It still can be, the topic's/thread's intent is to disprove the draw backs of being unmarried.

[Azisien]

Baaah I am tired of these statistical analyses of life choices that give or take from your LIFE METER.

If you're single you'll die. If you're married you'll die. If you have 1 kid you'll live 5 extra years, 2 kids 3 extra, 3 kids 6 less, 4 kids 10 more. Smoking drops this much, drinking drops this much, unless you drink THIS in THAT quantity, then you gain this much. Exercise this, eat that, sleep there, smile here, fuuuuu-

It's all bull. Just do whatever you like, then at least your insignificant number of years alive will be awesome.

But oh by the way, you're getting cancer at ~50 for these seventy-thousand or so different reasons. Survive that and you're good until 80 or so.

[POS Industries]

I consider the fact that it excluded the divorced and widowed from its numbers to be very telling.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Baaah I am tired of these statistical analyses of life choices that give or take from your LIFE METER.

If you're single you'll die. If you're married you'll die. If you have 1 kid you'll live 5 extra years, 2 kids 3 extra, 3 kids 6 less, 4 kids 10 more. Smoking drops this much, drinking drops this much, unless you drink THIS in THAT quantity, then you gain this much. Exercise this, eat that, sleep there, smile here, fuuuuu-

It's all bull. Just do whatever you like, then at least your insignificant number of years alive will be awesome.

But oh by the way, you're getting cancer at ~50 for these seventy-thousand or so different reasons. Survive that and you're good until 80 or so.

Exactly! It's hard to enjoy your day when you're constantly reminded that you are going to die a misserable death. >_<

Shit almost makes me wish for the Vampire BS to be somewhat true. Would be a nice back up plan.

[BitVyper]

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[Solid Snake]

I dunno, I could probably see this as TRU FACTS in regards to my own personal lifestyle and the decisions I make.

I mean, to be frank, as a single person I am currently indulging in a lifestyle that is not nearly as healthy as the lifestyle I would be living if I were in a serious relationship with a remotely attractive woman who was holding my accountable for my choices.
I'm buying candy and cookies I wouldn't buy as often, indulging in more abnormal sleeping and eating patterns, not exercising as much and lazing around more.

Sure, that's entirely within my control, but when I'm living alone and I don't have to worry about a wife or possibly children I make different decisions.
I don't regret the decisions I'm making. I'm a big boy, I'll live with what I choose.

But I sure wouldn't be surprised to ultimately learn I'm shaving something like five years off my life if I stay single and never get married over the next decade or two.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Except stress created from relationships, can kill you even faster as stress of all kinds tears up the body.

[Solid Snake]

Except stress created from relationships, can kill you even faster as stress of all kinds tears up the body.

I tend to believe the types of food you eat, hours you sleep and exercise you participate in has more a direct correlation than something like "STRESS," which to be frank I'd feel plenty of whether I was single or not, because life in general is quite stressful.

(Also for me 90% of the stress in relationships occurs in the first few dates; once I get past three or so dates, history suggests to me that later weeks and months are far easier. Even in relationships destined for breakups or DRAMAS.)

[rpgdemon]

You'd think that being single means that you don't get anyone screwing you.

[Azisien]

I mean, to be frank, as a single person I am currently indulging in a lifestyle that is not nearly as healthy as the lifestyle I would be living if I were in a serious relationship with a remotely attractive woman who was holding my accountable for my choices.
I'm buying candy and cookies I wouldn't buy as often, indulging in more abnormal sleeping and eating patterns, not exercising as much and lazing around more.

Some of that might hold true, but how much? Relationship with who? I guess I might sleep more regularly if someone was whipping me to it, but indulgence in yummy food never really disappeared when I wasn't single? This seems like it could be as random as anything else. Like maybe your remotely attractive girlfriend loves cookies and hates working out, so you'd eat the crap out of some Oreos together.

[Solid Snake]

Some of that might hold true, but how much? Relationship with who? I guess I might sleep more regularly if someone was whipping me to it, but indulgence in yummy food never really disappeared when I wasn't single? This seems like it could be as random as anything else. Like maybe your remotely attractive girlfriend loves cookies and hates working out, so you'd eat the crap out of some Oreos together.

I'm saying what's true for me personally, it might not apply to everyone.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

You'd think that being single means that you don't get anyone screwing you.

Exactly what I came to believe after highschool.

[Azisien]

I'm saying what's true for me personally, it might not apply to everyone.

I guess what I meant was, if it's a relationship, it also depends on the other person too.

[phil_]

Not new findings.

Rich people are the only people who can maintain a marriage (because they have more to lose by divorce and money to stay the hell away from each other).

Rich people live longer because they have medicine and food.

Statistics and Sociology are best friends!

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Not new findings.

Rich people are the only people who can maintain a marriage (because they have more to lose by divorce and money to stay the hell away from each other).

Rich people live longer because they have medicine and food.

Statistics and Sociology are best friends!

Damn those rich pricks!!!

[Azisien]

Super rich people can also afford those stem cell rejuvenation tanks. I god damn know they are hiding those things, I just don't know where!!

[BloodyMage]

To be honest, being in a relationship hasn't really made me fix my sleeping patterns at all.

Yet, I'm still a lot happier being in a relationship than being single. That's not to say I was unhappy being single, but it was the way things were and I was fine with it, but then she came along. It wasn't even a love a first sight thing, but I gradually got to know her very well, and we were both interested so we went for it. Even after a year or so, I can still say I'm happier now than I was before.

Maybe I'm just an old fashioned idealist though, and maybe being married does have no effect on the longevity of our lives. I know people who have rejected relationships because theirs haven't worked out and everyone they know is either breaking up or getting divorced. I'd hate to get like that; to the point where I gave up on thinking it was worth it, because honestly if the person is right then even through all the stress, even relationship stress, you still have someone to turn to. By the person being right I don't mean being the one, or being the sole mate or some hallmark marketing strategy, I mean someone who fits you, and it's possible there's more than one of those people out there, but if you can find one, even the rocky times of the relationship can be navigated together.

So maybe I'm just an old romantic, but I can understand why married couples who are still married would live longer. It seems obvious that divorced and widowed couples would have a few years taken from their life, so honestly it seems if there's anything to be taken from this, it's that you just shouldn't rush into marriage.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

So I should take the chance of meeting someone?

[POS Industries]

So I should take the chance of meeting someone?
Depends on how much you hate other people. Would you rather have a longer life of dealing with somebody else's bullshit all day every day, or would you prefer a shorter life where you don't?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

That is a very tough choice for me.

[BloodyMage]

Or you can stay single, come on a forum and deal with other people's bullshit anyway?

I don't know, it seems to depend on the person anyway. From the article it sounds like if you make it through your thirties the chances are you'll live as long as your married friends anyway. So just be healthy til 40.

[POS Industries]

Or you can stay single, come on a forum and deal with other people's bullshit anyway?
I assure you, dealing with the bullshit of people on the other side of the internet that you can just totally ignore if it suits you is totally different than actually having the person there when you wake up every morning, go to bed every night, and a large chunk of the time in between.

It takes a special sort of person to live in that type of arrangement where you don't eventually start thinking of ways to murder one another, which is the magical experience we call twoo luv, and it's pretty much damn near impossible to find that person, statistically speaking.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

I'm pretty laid back so there's the chance I may be fine.

[Darth SS]

I don't know, it seems to depend on the person anyway. From the article it sounds like if you make it through your thirties the chances are you'll live as long as your married friends anyway. So just be healthy til 40.

As soon as 40 hits it's tequila shots and cigars for everyone.

I worry though that this study could be making the same fallacy that "People with pets are healthier" makes. Has it established that somehow a relationship induces you to living longer? Or that the kinds of people who have the characteristics that predispose them to long-term relationships somehow have the characteristics to live longer?


I know that for me personally, I can say that in my own experience this kind of makes sense. I know for me the amount I go to the gym and what I eat is usually unrelated to relationship status, instead relating more to how active my lifestyle is at that time. But otherwise, in regards to stress and how I handle stress, I am clearly healthier whilst in a relationship.

When single, I get pissed off or freaked out a lot easier, generally owing to feeling more insecure than usual. I go out partying with friends all the time, and as a result I drink a ton and smoke occasionally. After the inevitable crippling stress of school knocks me down a peg, my immediate response is usually four ounces of scotch, occasionally leading to more than four ounces. There's also more nights when I just say "Fuck it, ice cream is dinner."

When in a relationship, I'm a lot less insecure because I have newfound confidence. While I do still go out partying sometimes, there will be a lot of times when someone will call and I'll already have plans. I have another outlet for stress, either having someone who kind of crushes it, or furious anger sex. Yes, it's a thing. More than anything, I just drink less, I do less stupid stuff, and I'm less stressed out.

Will these trends carry out for the rest of my life? Well, I guess I'll figure that out when I get there. However, it doesn't seem unreasonable, based on my experience.

[Overcast]

Did we ever tell you not to?

[Kyanbu The Legend]

You have a point there.

[Amake]

Being in a romantic relationship isn't going to save your life. It's living with one or preferably several people that satisfies your socializing needs, improves your economy and averts situations like being stuck in your bed with a terminal fever and having no way of getting help. Due to overwhelming propaganda espousing the nuclear family ideal we have reduced the concept of roommates to be exclusive to the young and clueless. It might take some work to get along with people in what you're conditioned to think of as the privacy of your home, but probably less than doing the same with someone with whom you're determined to have regular sex for the rest of your lives.

Just saying, it's an option.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

It's like smoking. You'll die earlier but you'll also die happier. And shit the way we going the world is going to be pretty terrible in our ater years. Better to just kick it while its stil good.

[synkr0nized]

"Stay single and you will be screwed".

I see what you did there.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

So according to this study and that other recent one about how every hour of tv/games you watch/play reduces your lifespan by 22 minutes, I should technically be dead already?

Well fuck you statistics, I'll die when I'm good and ready!

Plus I've known married guys who died way too young, so all I'm getting out of this is a distinct whiff of bullshit.

[Bobbey]

I tend to eat badly and not exercise as much while in a relationship than when I'm single. For the most part I think it's mostly because I had a very busy lifestyle before and I always needed to do something every waking hour of the day. When all my work had been done, I found myself with nothing to do, so I figured well, might as well exercise. Then, all that being healthy and thinner started attracting males. And then I got a boyfriend.

Not to say that I don't always check what I'm eating nowadays, but I do go out for a run once in a while and I try to eat healthier (under my boyfriend's watchful eye, and I do the same). Sleeping I've seen no difference really. It takes a while to get used to having someone there sleeping besides you on what used to be a bigger sleeping area, but then you both get used to eat and sleep just as well as before you met. Unless one of you snores. Then that kinda sucks.

[Ecks]

It is so totally worth it! Whatever may come later, sharing your life with someone is a fantastic experience! I spent a long time with my ex. A long time. And right up until the last couple of months it was an absolute joy. Sure, we had our ups and downs, and we fought a few times, but that is normal and healthy. The couple who DOESN'T fight is one who has a serious problem. As far as being single killing you faster is concerned... Whatever. I've been told my whole life that EVERYTHING was going to kill me faster. Just breathing in and out shortens my lifespan. I will spend A MAXIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS OF MY LIFE SHITTING. So pardon me if my sense of temporal mortality is a little skeptical. some advice from a guy who's loved and lost... That old cliche is right on. Go out, meet people, date 'em, fuck 'em, and shed a couple of tears when they're gone. If you're one of the lucky ones that crank out a couple of carbon-copies and stay with the incubator 'til death do you part, then cherish that.

[Toast]

Given that the pool of terminally single people is of a vastly smaller size than the pool of, well, everyone else, it's no surprise that numbers can show some odd things. Meta-analyses of previous studies also tend to gloss over any methodology problems of those studies and focus solely on results.

Further, I'm not too worried because they're speaking of strictly correlational trends, not causal factors.

[Magus]

The statistics in this are BS. It makes like zero sense and is the average of a tiny portion of the population over the last 50 damn years. People on average live like 20-30 years longer than they did only a few decades ago because of better cancer treatment, better heart disease treatment, etc. It's just junk science. Want to live longer? Exercise and eat healthy, hope you don't get cancer, avoid getting AIDS. End of story.

I mean, just looking at my parents and their friends, most of them are married, but plenty of my dad's male friends died at like 50 years old of heart attacks. The only reason he probably hasn't is he takes blood pressure medication.