Piracy is killing the planet.

[Jagos]

I can not take this seriously... This is from the MPAA in regards to "facts" about piracy. If they weren't serious about thinking that they can stop people from downloading a movie and seeing if it were worth their time, I wouldn't be laughing so hard.

Link (https://torrentfreak.com/mpaas-infographic-110823/#comment-294436388)

[Magus]

Can you copy the infographic and upload on imageshack or something? I don't normally use torrentsfreak and my browser is warning me away, so...

[Aerozord]

I can not take this seriously... This is from the MPAA in regards to "facts" about piracy. If they weren't serious about thinking that they can stop people from downloading a movie and seeing if it were worth their time, I wouldn't be laughing so hard.

Link (https://torrentfreak.com/mpaas-infographic-110823/#comment-294436388)

can you site the source? I looked and nearest I can see there is no evidence that this is legit

[Meister]

Can you copy the infographic and upload on imageshack or something? I don't normally use torrentsfreak and my browser is warning me away, so...
Can you, in fact, do this or the equivalent for text every time you post a thread?

[Jagos]

Can you copy the infographic and upload on imageshack or something? I don't normally use torrentsfreak and my browser is warning me away, so...

Torrentfreak is a website for discussing all things filesharing. They just had an article describing the difference of copyright infringement and theft.

Anyway, the image is on scribd here (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/62848402)

can you site the source?

... It's on the image... Top left...

[Bard The 5th LW]

I came into this thread expecting to read news about Pirates on the open sea and global warming. Sorta disappointed.

[Aerozord]

... It's on the image... Top left...

and its called photoshop. Having an image with a logo on it isn't proof of anything. Also inherently skeptical of a clearly bias websites claims when the only evidence it can offer to the authenticity of a document is something a fifth grader could forge in 10 minutes

[Jagos]

I really don't know what you're trying to find. All of the quotes are cited as well as the fact that you have the logo of the MPAA as well as can research all of the information that they've put on the picture. Hell if you want to look at the Envisional research, it's on their website.

-E- Of course, it could just be a stat page showing all the crazy ideas that they've said over the years...

[Mr.Bookworm]

http://www.scq.ubc.ca/wp-content/piracy01.gif

[Jagos]

Al Gore was not cited on this report...

[Magus]

I don't really think the conclusion of that infographic is that piracy is killing the planet, hyperbole such as "piracy is killing America" would be more in line with its basic message.

I tend to think it's real based on The Hurt Locker statistics, because that studio was apparently super butthurt over the fact that nobody wanted to pay to see their critically-acclaimed-but-sort-of-not-particularly-good movie (I mean, what was up with the whole "not dead kid" thing?), plus the fact that it was kind of hilarious since they were accused of stealing a guy's life story.

On the other hand, it seems unrealistic because it cites torrentfreak.com for one of its things, so...I have the feeling this was made by someone else using things from the MPAA site or something in the style of the sorts of infographics put out by the MPAA or RIAA. I.e. all the facts are probably "true" and probably even cited by the MPAA but the infographic itself was probably made by someone else.

[Jagos]

Nope, that's actually the MPAA's. No one made it but the organization, quoting TF.

Someone's done the exceptional task of debunking most of their points (http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/box-office-records-and-whining-twatwaffles-of-the-mpaa.php)

Despite the worst economic climate since we had a President who pulled wheelies, the movie industry just had its largest summer take of all time, with three different films topping the billion dollar mark world wide. The MPAA has celebrated by releasing a fancy little infographic (in irritating Scribd format just so that no one downloads and pirates a PNG file that they’re giving away for free).

And of course, we've already figured out that this thing is fictional.

So according to the MPAA, piracy cost them $58 billion last year, making movie piracy a bigger industry than the GDPs of 10 American states. To put it even starker perspective, look at it this way. The film industry gets about $10 billion from the box office, and about $30 billion from the after market of DVDs, streaming, etc. So they’re claiming that piracy costs them almost two-thirds of their business. At $10 per DVD, every household in the United States would be buying an additional 50 DVDs per year if they weren’t so busy downloading. The technical term for a statistic like that is “fictional.”

The debunking gets better as you read it. It's not a long one, but it's pretty entertaining in figuring out that by the numbers the MPAA posts, Americans would buy 200 more DVDs per year due to the losses of piracy.

[Jagos]

The MPAA just updated their fact sheet.

It's found here (http://www.mpaa.org/contentprotection/roguewebsites) under "Fact Sheet - The Cost of Content Theft by the Numbers "

And it's still based on very bad data such as the IFPI's debunked methodology regarding the ripple effects of the economy. I'm still waiting to read it, but it should be interesting to see how good or bad this thing can be in regards to accounting 101.

[Magus]

They don't factor in that people wouldn't have bought those 50 movies, instead most likely renting them, netting them much less money. Their math assumes that the people would have purchased them.

EDIT: I find it interesting that the picture there is from the Dark Knight, not just because of the actual picture of money burning, or the story elements of the Joker attempting to create anarchy and lawlessness, but also the fact that I loved the Dark Knight so much I bought it on DVD the day it came out. Like I didn't even wait until the weekend and buy it when I'm going to the store anyway, I made a special trip, man.

Studios should focus on making better movies to combat piracy.

EDIT: One of the commenters points out why the 58 billion dollar number is so inflated: "That 58 billion number is not exclusive to the film industry. That figure includes music, game, business and software copyright theft. The film industry really has no fucking clue in monetary terms, at least, what film piracy costs them. Ultimately, all they have are big numbers that seem to mean a lot and look scary when they are placed together on an infographic."

Also I was looking at the MPAA site and they claim that "millions of jobs are lost because of piracy", which again if they are talking about only American film industry they are insane. I don't believe the 9% unemployment rate would be particularly dented by the utter defeat of all movie piracy everywhere, or even all media piracy everywhere.