Fuck off Christmas

[Professor Smarmiarty]

So came into the office today to find it covered in christmas decorations. This is dumb.
Christmas is a stupid celebration and it has now begun taking up the whole month of December and earlier.
Go away Christmas. You are dumb and I hate you.

[A Zarkin' Frood]

Yeah, christmas always ruins my shit. Down with christmas.

[Amake]

Tell them by putting up decorations before the 23rd at the very earliest they're inviting evil spirits. The true spirit of xmas demands patience (http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/superstitions.asp).

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I want to go on Fox News' war on christmas segment and be like "Yes. I am fighting a war against christmas. Also Jesus should have been aborted."

[Osterbaum]

I dont outright hate JUL but it is by far the boringest and dumbest festivity of the year, atleast usually. I also dont like how it seems to start earlier every few years. Yeah, I dislike it but I guess it does give me an excuse to eat a lot of delicious food.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

The only good thing about Christmas is compulsory time off. I have no problems with being able to sit around being a lazy fuck for a week or so.

Everything else is shit though.

[Osterbaum]

Yeah that part is good, I´ll admidt.

[Meister]

Being coerced into travelling around the country to visit people and seeing your own apartment only to briefly stop and sleep a night between trips, if at all, all during the time when everyone else is also doing this, is not my idea of "time off." Going to work would be less stressful.

[Krylo]

Tell your family to fuck off. I did that back in High School when my Grandparents I cared about kicked off.

Still hate Christmas, though now it's mostly due to public places piping in Christmas music from right after Halloween until the 26th. Which, itself, wouldn't be so bad, except Feliz Navidad is a favorite to pipe in over the intercom systems, and that song, even if you only hear it once, is already repetitive and obnoxious by the end, having a total of about 5 different lyrics that are merely repeated over and over to the exact same tune. Repeat it about 10 times over an 8 hour day and you find yourself wishing the creator hadn't already died so that you could hunt him down and torture him to death.

[shiney]

That's my major beef with it. The music pisses me off after usually day 3. It's in every store, it's in the malls, it's outside the commercial areas, it's on the radio, family insists on playing it for all occasions...it gets so amazingly old.

Also I miss Thanksgiving decorations. Also I miss not being bombarded with commercialism for a sizeable portion of the year. I mean 1/6 of the year is dedicated to what amounts to a big department store sale. GGF

[Seil]

So... wait: do you guys have a problem with the commercialization of Christmas or the actual holiday?

[Krylo]

I'd be okay with the commercialization if it weren't for the music starting so early. And decorations to a lesser extent.

Honestly, other than the decorations and music starting in November, the commercialization is my favorite part of Christmas. Family is stressful and obnoxious, presents are awesome.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I have a problem with Jesus just making up a birthday. Who does he think he is? The Queen?

[Terex4]

Still hate Christmas, though now it's mostly due to public places piping in Christmas music from right after Halloween until the 26th. Which, itself, wouldn't be so bad, except Feliz Navidad is a favorite to pipe in over the intercom systems, and that song, even if you only hear it once, is already repetitive and obnoxious by the end, having a total of about 5 different lyrics that are merely repeated over and over to the exact same tune. Repeat it about 10 times over an 8 hour day and you find yourself wishing the creator hadn't already died so that you could hunt him down and torture him to death.
Or, you know, someone mentions the song and it gets stuck in your head from that point on. Also, goddammit Krylo!

[Magus]

The real problem with the music is every modern day pop star feels an urge to make a grating and obnoxious version of it that is even more terrible to listen to a hundred times than the original shit.

Or fucking Randy Newman does a version of it and you start wishing the fucking black death would start back up again. Just, fucking, people everywhere in the streets dying, Santa Clauses with pus-filled buboes crawling through filth, children crying. That's the kind of shit Randy Newman makes me think about.

[pochercoaster]

Tell your family to fuck off. I did that back in High School when my Grandparents I cared about kicked off.

Still hate Christmas, though now it's mostly due to public places piping in Christmas music from right after Halloween until the 26th. Which, itself, wouldn't be so bad, except Feliz Navidad is a favorite to pipe in over the intercom systems, and that song, even if you only hear it once, is already repetitive and obnoxious by the end, having a total of about 5 different lyrics that are merely repeated over and over to the exact same tune. Repeat it about 10 times over an 8 hour day and you find yourself wishing the creator hadn't already died so that you could hunt him down and torture him to death.

Ah, you just reminded me of another upside to being unemployed. Seriously, fuck Christmas music, ESPECIALLY that song.

Christmas doesn't really bother me otherwise, as I don't celebrate it with my family. Instead I exchange a few small gifts with a couple of friends here and there and mail some cards, but that's about it. The time off is welcome as well.

As to the commercialization of Christmas, I've always liked this one quote by Ayn Rand. I know she's a crazy bitch, but I just happen to like this -one- thing she said (everything else she said was insane bullshit, right?)

[In answer to the question of whether it is appropriate for an atheist to celebrate Christmas:]

Yes, of course. A national holiday, in this country, cannot have an exclusively religious meaning. The secular meaning of the Christmas holiday is wider than the tenets of any particular religion: it is good will toward men—a frame of mind which is not the exclusive property (though it is supposed to be part, but is a largely unobserved part) of the Christian religion.

The charming aspect of Christmas is the fact that it expresses good will in a cheerful, happy, benevolent, non-sacrificial way. One says: “Merry Christmas”—not “Weep and Repent.” And the good will is expressed in a material, earthly form—by giving presents to one’s friends, or by sending them cards in token of remembrance . . . .

The best aspect of Christmas is the aspect usually decried by the mystics: the fact that Christmas has been commercialized. The gift-buying . . . stimulates an enormous outpouring of ingenuity in the creation of products devoted to a single purpose: to give men pleasure. And the street decorations put up by department stores and other institutions—the Christmas trees, the winking lights, the glittering colors—provide the city with a spectacular display, which only “commercial greed” could afford to give us. One would have to be terribly depressed to resist the wonderful gaiety of that spectacle.

It's still really weird to see Christmas decorations when there's no snow around here, though.

[Menarker]

I have a problem with Jesus just making up a birthday. Who does he think he is? The Queen?

Well, technically from a historical standpoint, Jesus' actual birthday was probably not even in December at all. It could have been as early as September to as late as early January.

From what I have read, the Roman pagans didn't know exactly when his actual birthday was. So they just put his birthday on the same day as the celebration for their sun god (as a pun of him being the son of God) around the solstice celebration. And everyone just more or less followed suit.

Other elements of Christmas are also pagan like the Christmas tree which has druidic origins and got similar treatment, adopted and blended.

But yeah, totally selfish on his part to have his celebration and thus having to work and go christmas shopping on the coldest month of the year!


And the funny thing is, some people keep thinking that saying X-mas instead of Christmas makes it more secular, but the X is greek for "Chi" which then was an abbreviation for Christ. (Thanks TVTropes!) However, that bit of meaning has since been lost and converted in this day and age.

[Amake]

Most of that makes sense poch, but buying presents to give pleasure? I find the act of buying presents stressful and tasteless. The fun part is giving them, and that's usually more fun if you make them yourself anyway. And all the noisy xmas decorations serve only to make me miss the stars, the darkness and the silence, and worry about the environment.

Re. the Jesus issue I heard the astrological phenomenon featured in the story puts its date at March or April 6 AD.

[walkertexasdruid]

I guess it is up to me to offer a differing opinion. I actually have always loved christmas, both the religious holiday and the secular celebration of it. Of course my father is a retired United Methodist minister, so I always looked forward to the Christmas Eve service, and Christmas Day service if it occured on a sunday. I also love being able to find the perfect presents for the friends and family that I love. That will be hard to do since I am struggling financially right now, but I will find some way to show that I care for them. I also like receiving an unexpected present that really makes my day, a couple years ago I got a PS3 and I had no idea that was even in the cards. So before you completely wallow in what you guys think are the negative aspects of Christmas, try thinking about all of the good things that happen on this special day. So Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays!

[The Sevenshot Kid]

I'm in my school's men's choir and show choir so we're singing Christmas music every damn day and we have been since the start of November. I'm so over Christmas. If I have to do another song and dance number to Frosty the Snowman I am going to flip.

[Seil]

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[Professor Smarmiarty]

Well, technically from a historical standpoint, Jesus' actual birthday was probably not even in December at all. It could have been as early as September to as late as early January.

From what I have read, the Roman pagans didn't know exactly when his actual birthday was. So they just put his birthday on the same day as the celebration for their sun god (as a pun of him being the son of God) around the solstice celebration. And everyone just more or less followed suit.

Other elements of Christmas are also pagan like the Christmas tree which has druidic origins and got similar treatment, adopted and blended.

But yeah, totally selfish on his part to have his celebration and thus having to work and go christmas shopping on the coldest month of the year!


And the funny thing is, some people keep thinking that saying X-mas instead of Christmas makes it more secular, but the X is greek for "Chi" which then was an abbreviation for Christ. (Thanks TVTropes!) However, that bit of meaning has since been lost and converted in this day and age.

He wasn't even born in Bethlehem. Was actually born in Nazareth but they made up the bethelem story to fit i with Jewish messiah prophecies. IT'S ALL COMING DOWN

[Magus]

He wasn't even born in Bethlehem. Was actually born in Nazareth but they made up the bethelem story to fit i with Jewish messiah prophecies. IT'S ALL COMING DOWN

.Did Joseph even pay his taxes that year at all?! CONSPIRACY

[Osterbaum]

Was Mary Jesus´ real mother!?

[Professor Smarmiarty]

She certainly wasn't a virgin.
Cause I banged her.

E: In the butt.

[walkertexasdruid]

You guys are hopeless.

[Osterbaum]

Christmass IS a time of hopelessness after all.

[BitVyper]

I love Christmas music. Hate Christmas though. I go around singing carols in July. It helps me remember that the horrible summer will end soon.

[Osterbaum]

Sir, I do believe you are my opposite.

e: wait, I guess we share a hatred of christmas

[BitVyper]

I hate Christmas because it makes going to the mall in November and December basically impossible unless you go really early or really late.

[Grandmaster_Skweeb]

I survived another black friday. Rest of the season is more like that irritating but harmless butt itch.

The worst is over.

Except the fuckin horrible drivers that forget how to drive at the first sign of snow.

[walkertexasdruid]

Yeah, if there is any snow in sc, then everyone decides to get into car accidents. Still I maintain that is the best time of the year.

[Osterbaum]

It´s weird how every single year snow "surprises" all the drivers in this country, seeing as snow comes around the same time every year.