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Aldurin
06-06-2012, 01:22 PM
So apparently we've got too many people in this world with too many devices and servers and shit, and now companies like google are having to transition to IPv6 (http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/) cause of you guys.

This should hopefully keep the internet from hitting capacity for another 10 years. But still, stop being so fat on the internet, there's a finite amount of space there.

Ryong
06-06-2012, 02:47 PM
This should hopefully keep the internet from hitting capacity for another 10 years.

340 trillion trillion trillion

More like 100. Or 1000.

Doc ock rokc
06-06-2012, 02:55 PM
More like 100. Or 1000.

actually with the near exponential rate of technological advancement 10 years is a nice estimate.

Geminex
06-06-2012, 02:58 PM
actually with the near exponential rate of technological advancement 10 years is a nice estimate.
>: ?


Amount of new addresses available:
3.4×10^38

Estimated amount of bacteria on earth:
2.3x10^40

Basically, every hundredth bacterium could buy itself an iphone and we would still addresses to spare.

And all the other bacteria would hate the 1% that keep showing off their new iphones.

Edit:
Seriously, 7 billion people. In 10 years' time, maybe 8 billion. That's 8x10^9.
Each of those people would have to buy roughly 4x10^28 networking devices for this to be full.
Humans have about 100 trillion cells (10^12).
That means we'd have to own more iphones than we have cells.

Unless we actually come up with workable networking nanobots (which I don't think is all that likely), I don't think we're in danger of breaking the limit anytime soon

shiney
06-06-2012, 03:13 PM
Yeah, this isn't the same as the growth in processing requirements or anything. This is like saying "We're almost out of houses, build enough houses to cover the entire sun a hundred times over".

Revising Ocelot
06-06-2012, 03:18 PM
I'm pretty sure this is all false. How can you get trillions of tubes going into my house and back?

Geminex
06-06-2012, 03:28 PM
I'm pretty sure this is all false. How can you get trillions of tubes going into my house and back?

You gotta make them real small

Edit: But not too small. Otherwise you can't pump the information through them anymore

Ryong
06-06-2012, 03:34 PM
I thank Geminex for showing the sheer scale of this change.

And also:

Unless we actually come up with workable networking nanobots (which I don't think is all that likely), I don't think we're in danger of breaking the limit anytime soon

We'd still have the whole weird LAN masking shittick so even then it'd work for a bit.

Sifright
06-06-2012, 03:52 PM
>: ?


Amount of new addresses available:


Estimated amount of bacteria on earth:


Basically, every hundredth bacterium could buy itself an iphone and we would still addresses to spare.

And all the other bacteria would hate the 1% that keep showing off their new iphones.

Edit:
Seriously, 7 billion people. In 10 years' time, maybe 8 billion. That's 8x10^9.
Each of those people would have to buy roughly 4x10^28 networking devices for this to be full.
Humans have about 100 trillion cells (10^12).
That means we'd have to own more iphones than we have cells.

Unless we actually come up with workable networking nanobots (which I don't think is all that likely), I don't think we're in danger of breaking the limit anytime soon

even switching to IPv6 isn't strictly needed (right this second) with proper network address translation(which is being used now) You could avoid this problem for another couple of years.

IPv6 will be all we need for the forseeable future unless they start assigning ip addresses to peoples clothing.

Edit: Basically gem is totally right and any one thinking that we will magically have even a million devices on the internet per person is deluded.

Ryong
06-06-2012, 04:09 PM
Man you know how patchy NAT is, Sif.

Sifright
06-06-2012, 04:12 PM
Man you know how patchy NAT is, Sif.

Yea but thats why we(the industry which i'm not part of) are switching IPv6 because it's a more reliable solution.

Edit: About the Nanobots schtick, Nanobots as described in fiction will never exist. You can't make something that small and still be programmable. The closest you will probably get is designer cells to create shit.