So about proper english AKA Britain you are not saying it right

[Aerozord]

Now I'll be the first to say language is ever evolving and diverging and anyone that talks about a correct way to talk is largely being pretentious. Though I do find linguistic studies interesting.

Like this one that says British are the ones that developed an accent, not America (http://www.livescience.com/33652-americans-brits-accents.html)

Traditional English, whether spoken in the British Isles or the American colonies, was largely "rhotic." Rhotic speakers pronounce the "R" sound in such words as "hard" and "winter," while non-rhotic speakers do not. Today, however, non-rhotic speech is common throughout most of Britain. For example, most modern Brits would tell you it's been a "hahd wintuh."

as for why there was this major shift
around the time of the American Revolution that non-rhotic speech came into use among the upper class in southern England, in and around London. According to John Algeo in "The Cambridge History of the English Language" (Cambridge University Press, 2001), this shift occurred because people of low birth rank who had become wealthy during the Industrial Revolution were seeking ways to distinguish themselves from other commoners; they cultivated the prestigious non-rhotic pronunciation in order to demonstrate their new upper-class status.

Basically you know that cliche of people trying to sound rich and sophisticated talking in posh British accents? Well apparently that was an actual thing that actually happened. In an attempt to sound more well-to-do people started talking like that, and these people became those that taught "proper speaking" and the accent just filtered down.

So yea. If you want to say what was spoken before the revolution is "correct" than it would be the way the US pronounces things.

[Aldurin]

But Japanese accents will be the norm when anime takes over the world.

[Krylo]

But Japanese accents will be the norm when anime takes over the world.

But Aldy-chaaaaaan

[phil_]

Krylo teba! Mou! >_<;

[Bard The 5th LW]

Now I'll be the first to say language is ever evolving and diverging and anyone that talks about a correct way to talk is largely being pretentious. Though I do find linguistic studies interesting.

You're not going to stop me from correcting people when they mix up "good" and "well".

[Bells]

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[Fenris]

Moved thread to general section.

[Magus]

I'm less focused on accents and more focused on people who pronounce "bathed" wrong or say "wreck havoc".

[Bells]

I'm less focused on accents and more focused on people who pronounce "bathed" wrong or say "wreck havoc".

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Seriously.... i have a ton of these. And they are all fantastic.

[tacticslion]

Nobody?

Fine: Word Crimes (http://www.weirdal.com/).

EDIT: Slackers.

EDIT 2: Fine, I'll stop being a slacker. SIGH.

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[Fenris]

that song came out after this thread was made.

[tacticslion]

Yes, but... this is NPF. We have standards, and those include closed time loops! Don't make me look up the old debates on how those work!

[Revising Ocelot]

We have standards,

faak orf m8

ill fokkin dek eu

[tacticslion]

faak orf m8

ill fokkin dek eu

Ah, see, now that's what I'm talking about. The NPF standards in practice! :D

[Azisien]

faak orf m8

ill fokkin dek eu

u wot m8

[Overcast]

Years of games has me thinking of you two as Orks instead of urban youths.

[tacticslion]

Years of games has me thinking of you two as Orks instead of urban youths.

Holy crap! They were supposed to be urban youths?!

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

We have standards

Fenris is a Mod, we have no standards :smug:

<3 Fennykins

[Revising Ocelot]

urban youths.

m8 im not yung, im proper stakked u got no chans
bludy smak ur lites out m8, make me car red like, wid ur blud
yeh dats rite m8, ur blud. im propuh tuff. u got no chans

[phil_]

-T1xjuGBq80

[Krylo]

Why do they look like they're about to murder the blonde?

[Kim]

tbh getting your danglies in a twist because someone used "incorrect" grammar or spelling or punctuation is silly

if it communicated what the writer intended to the person reading, that's all that matters

if you understood what a person was saying and are "correcting" them on grammar or word usage or whatever the fuck then you're wasting everybody's time

[Krylo]

I'm sorry, Kim, but until you learn to capitalize your sentences and use terminal punctuation I just can't even

[Kim]

i assume by terminal punctuation you mean murder

[Marc v4.0]

if you understood what a person was saying and are "correcting" them on grammar or word usage or whatever the fuck then you're wasting everybody's time

You're also very likely insufferable to be around if you make a habit of doing this to friends and family.

[phil_]

I like words. I don't like when people think "-ed" is optional and everyone who uses it to denote the past tense is just being ostentatious. "Are" and "or" are different words. Prepositions modulate meaning (in English). I don't want to assume too much, but I'm assuming you all aren't in a situation where words that you would only slur together if you're drunk out of your fucking skull are the same word with no differentiation as a matter of course and trying to explain that "are" and "or" are different words is a waste of time because no one around you knows what vowels are.

Like, for fucking real, I'm not not not not not not trying to be Mr. Perfect Grammar Man here, because grammar is contextual, but living in a world where all your words mean nothing because no one understands them is hell.

Edit: Luckily, I've lived in hell all my life, and I can tell you that you adjust to the flames, no matter what your pastor says.

[Ryong]

I'm just going to get real mad at y'all if you can't use their/they're your/you're and so on correctly.

Portuguese has 4 ways of writing the equivalent to "why" depending on if you're using it in a question or answer or if it's in the start of the sentence or on the end of the sentence, it's pretty dumb.

[phil_]

Don't forget "to," "two," and "too." Remembering them will make you eligible for a B.A. English Major, so long as you can use all three in a sentence.

[synkr0nized]

Yes, but... this is NPF. We have standards, [...]

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[Aerozord]

While I might think just absolutely horrid grammar is, well stupid. I dont get too mad in and of itself. Its those people that insist every one uses proper grammar but will still do things like "Hi." The idiots that think punctuation and capitalization is the entirety of good grammar with no understanding of sentence structure. Cause its one thing to not use it, its another to yell at people for it when you dont do it yourself