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IHateMakingNames 06-12-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDrgon (Post 1201968)
Ok. most controversial opinion in this thread, and something no one who's ever heard me talk about RPGs will be surprised about...

Breath of Fire 3 is the best Jrpg of all time. Better than FF7 by a long shot

Not so much an opinion as it is a blatant fact.

Ryong 06-12-2012 08:35 PM

I'm not a fan of the incredibly slow start the game has, nor of the artstyle.

I prefer 4.

Locke cole 06-12-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Terex4 (Post 1201961)
FFIV was a decent enough game, but I hated not being able to assemble my own party. Though my disdain over the fixed party is nothing compared to my utter hatred of having to use Edward for any measurable length of time.

It seemed like, by the end, you were stuck with the most incompetent characters that you had met along the way (barring Rydia). Edge was too full of himself to make a half-decent ninja, Kain was far too prone to brainwashing, and Rosa was a perpetual damsel-in-distress. Cecil was okay.

You could try out the sequel. In the final chapters (after a bunch of chapters with fixed partieS), you have a choice of a staggering number of dudes to pick your party from. They aren't all equally useful (there are four guys who are basically "Edge with fewer spells"), but with the number of guys you have, there are a bunch of viable parties. Don't even have to have Cecil. And Edward actually turns into something of a badass, who can heal more capably than Rosa if you set him up right.

Dracorion 06-12-2012 09:37 PM

With regard to Chrono Cross, I can certainly appreciate it for what it is and what it tried to be. Regarding it as a sequel to Trigger, the idea was good if not the execution and what they did to the CT characters. Maybe the first half of the game could've done with some more references to make sure that, yes, you are in the same world CT took place, but hitting you full-force with the reveal and linking the games at the Dead Sea was perfect.

I think Masato Kato got really ambitious and tried to write the Greatest Story Ever, only the genre wasn't ready for it and the technology wasn't advanced enough and he got rushed while doing it so we got stuck with Chrono Cross.

Anyway, while we're discussing games that aren't Final Fantasy, can we just state for the record that TWEWY is basically the best thing?

Locke cole 06-12-2012 09:38 PM

The only thing it needed was more save files.

I want to let the rest of my siblings play it, darnit!

MSperoni 06-12-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDrgon (Post 1201968)
Breath of Fire 3 is the best Jrpg of all time. Better than FF7 by a long shot

Dunno about best of "all time" but it's probably my favorite on the PS1 (I never played BF4).

I could play that game *RIGHT NOW*...but I'd rather not bother with FF7. I feel FF7 is best left in the past.

Solid Snake 06-13-2012 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryong (Post 1201962)
At least my arguments aren't "I hated them so they're shit" ::V:

I think I've been fairly clear throughout this thread with the fact that I've been expressing subjective opinions and not objective, reviewer-esque analyses.

Example of the Distinction:
From an impartial perspective, if I were a videogame reviewer, I'd totally have to give NieR a subpar score because the game has serious flaws. The gameplay's broken, the sidequests are tedious, the graphics aren't pretty, the voice acting for minor characters is atrocious.
From my personal perspective, fuck everything I just typed, NieR was the most memorable and delightful game released this generation, it's the one I remember most fondly and the one that will leave the strongest impact, and if anyone gives that game anything less than a perfect score they should be led into dark alleyways and shot.

It's important to distinguish when acquaintances are attempting to argue the objective, impartial, logically cohesive merits of an issue and when they're just stating personal preferences. Unfortunately, in discourse we all tend to exaggerate, which can tend to blur the distinction. But I think I've been flippant enough throughout these arguments to convey that I'm coming from a perspective of opinion and not attempting to act as an arbiter of every videogame's quality and impact.

Krylo 06-13-2012 05:21 AM

Yeah, but, Snake, your opinions are wrong.

tacticslion 06-13-2012 01:38 PM

Yes, it is too a word!
 
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Originally Posted by Krylo (Post 1202026)
Yeah, but, Snake, your opinions are wrong.

But mine are wronger!

Krylo 06-13-2012 01:55 PM

You don't even know what emo means =(
 
Yes.

Yes they are.


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