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Kim 06-15-2010 09:53 PM

I'm excited for the new Zelda. I like the art style. Just don't like that the Spirit Tracks people are working on it. That and it sounds like it'll be more linear, though I could be misinterpreting things.

Kyanbu The Legend 06-15-2010 09:56 PM

I'm still flipping through the E3 stuff bit by bit. So I didn't know about Skyward Sword.

Bells 06-15-2010 10:33 PM

So... i was the only one who enjoyed Sony presentation?

I mean, i got a few Youtube videos out of it and a Few play-by-play reads on IGN and Kotaku... but i really liked what i saw.

So they tossed a few jabs at the competition, who cares? These guys are competitors, enough with the "Fake Gentleman Routine", they didn't take it too far, it was just a few subtle pokes it got their laughs, life goes on.

As far as "Putting a show" Goes, i would Say that Sony made their conference with a better pace and more Fun to watch than nintendo. Nintendo had a more serious tone, while Sony used a more "Frat house Party" tone. I don't mind. We are talking about games and fun, and they didn't push it too hard anyway...

As for Content, i would say that Sony actually stayed ahead with a barrage of New titles and very strong line up.

Sure, on the Portable area Nintendo dominated. But it's silly to compare Portable with Console.

As for the Move? They showed games. Not just "Move Games" which were all fine anyway, but also a ton of future Hardcore and Well know franchises and games with Move. That, for me, makes up for the higher overall price tag.

Carade 06-15-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluestarultor (Post 1051258)
Hey, guys! Methinks I found what makes the 3DS tick. According to Wikipedia, it's a parallax barrier.

That would at least explain why you can adjust it.

Dibs on Parallax Barrier as a rock band name.

Kyanbu The Legend 06-15-2010 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bells (Post 1051280)
So... i was the only one who enjoyed Sony presentation?

I mean, i got a few Youtube videos out of it and a Few play-by-play reads on IGN and Kotaku... but i really liked what i saw.

So they tossed a few jabs at the competition, who cares? These guys are competitors, enough with the "Fake Gentleman Routine", they didn't take it too far, it was just a few subtle pokes it got their laughs, life goes on.

As far as "Putting a show" Goes, i would Say that Sony made their conference with a better pace and more Fun to watch than nintendo. Nintendo had a more serious tone, while Sony used a more "Frat house Party" tone. I don't mind. We are talking about games and fun, and they didn't push it too hard anyway...

As for Content, i would say that Sony actually stayed ahead with a barrage of New titles and very strong line up.

Sure, on the Portable area Nintendo dominated. But it's silly to compare Portable with Console.

As for the Move? They showed games. Not just "Move Games" which were all fine anyway, but also a ton of future Hardcore and Well know franchises and games with Move. That, for me, makes up for the higher overall price tag.

It's safe to say a lot of us hate the silly old "console wars" thing by now. So Sony poking fun was a bit unneeded (and this is coming from me, someone who worships the ground they walk on). I love it when they brag but poking fun at MS and Nintendo after they nearly screwed them selves over with the PS3 during it's first year kind makes me want to reconsider investing in the PS3 now. Besides the piano black 360 slim is so sexy and a step up from the original with no RoD problems as promised. Still kils your discs if you move it around too much though.

Arcanum 06-15-2010 10:57 PM

Holy crap I spend most of my day playing HeartGold and this thread explodes with Nintendo fanboyism. But in all seriousness, I just finished watching the Sony presser (haven't watched Nintendo's yet) and I'm in the same boat as Bells. I enjoyed it, which is a million times better than what I felt while watching the junk that aired yesterday. Loved the demos and the trailers they showed for new games, and I liked how the Dead Space 2 demo continued off from where the EA one ended. And yeah they tried to hype up the PSP, which is understandable for them to try and do despite how they know full well the PSP will never compare the DS (or 3DS for that matter).

Even the PS Move stuff I enjoyed watching much more than Microsoft's Kinect. Sorcery caught my attention, even if it does seem kinda childish/simple/gimmicky (still not sure of a good word to describe it). I was disappointed with Heroes on the Move though. The concept of mashing Ratchet and Clank, Jack and Daxter, and Sly Cooper into one game is awesome, but they should have kept the core mechanics of the respective games intact while jumbling the characters together in a trans-dimensional kerfuckle, instead of making it a gimmicky Move title.

Oh, and on the note of Infamous 2, are you guys sure that's Cole McGrath As the main character? Because it's not only a different setting, but a different voice, different look, and the only real link is the electricity powers and the game's title.

Anyway I'm off to go watch Nintendo's presser now.

edit -- oh and I loved Kevin Butler's speech. It was funny, and I doubt Microsoft or Nintendo took it seriously so why should we?

bluestarultor 06-15-2010 11:07 PM

Valve officially wins everything. I just read this: http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6265808...es%3Btitle%3B4

That kind of presentation isn't something you see unless The Undertaker makes a surprise appearance and the video sent a chill down my spine with a sense of dread (in a good way), and I haven't even PLAYED Portal.

Solid Snake 06-15-2010 11:20 PM

I liked Sony's presentation a tad more than Microsoft's, though really that was just because of Kevin Butler's speech (which I did enjoy, although it was awkward that his speech hyped up hardcore gaming just before the conference returned to obsess over casual Move titles) and Portal 2. Essentially, Move makes ever so slightly more sense than Kinect and Sony had Portal 2 while Microsoft had virtually nothing that held my interest: that was pretty much the difference for me.

What was immensely disappointing for me though included the facts that:

- Aside from Twisted Metal (and I don't care much about that series), nothing new and exciting for the PS3 was announced. Most of the games were titles we already knew were coming. Without any surprises, it just felt predictable and stale.

- There was an excessive number of repetitive montages. Seriously, that last montage only included games already discussed in the conference.

- The PS3 part of the conference introduced plenty of casual Move games, games for younger players (Sorcery,) MMOs (FFXIV), and FPSes (Killzone 3), sports (Golf) and racing games (Gran Turismo 5). These are all genres that do not interest me. Meanwhile, RPGs and third-person action games were almost uniformly ignored. (Where was FFXIII Versus, KH3, Uncharted 3 or The Last Guardian? Those are all games I'm really looking forward to hearing about.)

- This led to the awkward moment when I realized that the PSP games hyped up during their PSP montage actually interested me considerably more than anything shown for the PS3, despite the fact that I will never purchase a PSP because All My Love Are Belong to 3DS.

- Sony really should have procured at least one epic, unexpected surprise. To compete with Nintendo's 3DS announcement and really take a dagger to Microsoft's throat, they needed something like the oft-rumored FFVII HD remake, KH3, a new epic RPG project, a new Silent Hill or something, anything like that. The Last Guardian could have done the trick and I still can't figure out why the hell Sony kept that one under wraps.

- Sony and Microsoft both put way too much emphasis on Move and Kinect at the expense of all the more sophisticated games they should be showcasing that don't revolve around motion sensor controls. By concentrating on an innovation the Wii has already practically monopolized, Sony and Microsoft lost their chances to come up with a new original concoction or gimmick that would have ultimately served them better by offering a unique way to play games.

- The HD 3D concept felt outdated already after the 3DS announcement, and I'm just not the least bit interested in wearing those glasses while playing an HD game. As a PS3 owner, I'll never be interested in taking "advantage" of the 3D option.

- Why the hell didn't they do anything with The Last Guardian, again? That really should have been a no-brainer.

EDIT: - How could I have forgotten that annoying black kid who's now the PSP's unofficial mascot? Those commercials annoyed me and cost us valuable time that could have been discussed talking about games as opposed to marketing strategies. That's where the Nintendo conference really shined: it was less about commercials and montages and more about showing us new hardware and talking about a massive list of third-party support.

Bells 06-15-2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluestarultor (Post 1051293)
Valve officially wins everything. I just read this: http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6265808...es%3Btitle%3B4

That kind of presentation isn't something you see unless The Undertaker makes a surprise appearance and the video sent a chill down my spine with a sense of dread (in a good way), and I haven't even PLAYED Portal.

In video Form, for you, and those who want a Youtube option for this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuwxOQ4V9tQ

I really think the whole Portal 2 thing was a very very nice and welcomed twisted. I actually thought there for a second that the whole "Valve Hates the PS3" was actually fake, and a setup for this... but maybe they just sat down and talked a bit more about this?

Also, Portal seems like it would be a fun game to use with the Playstation Move.

Jagos 06-15-2010 11:30 PM

Kevin Butler is pretty damn funny


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