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Azisien 03-23-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Meister (Post 1026938)
Can't have your cake and eat it, and specifically can't expect to lose weight if you eat it.

Well, one weekend of cake binging never hurt anyone! But yea, if you eat one or more cakes per day, you may want to cut that out. Switch to...bananas? They're sweet?! Same goes for soda.

Archbio 03-23-2010 03:43 PM

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If you take the effort to cook, healthy eating is cheaper than the more unhealthy alternatives. You just need to put a little effort and research into it.
And time. Time being money, that means that it's not always actually cheaper. My understanding is that not everybody has a schedule that's flexible and/or free enough to learn to cook healthy and then cook.

Melfice 03-23-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Azisien (Post 1026925)
This seems relatively misleading to me. Most juices I know of aren't loaded with high-fructose corn syrup. Switching from cola to juice would be way better for you.

Any unsweetened juices are positively loaded with natural sugars from the fruit itself.
I think they even have a higher sugar content than sodas, but don't quote me on this.

Amake 03-23-2010 04:07 PM

Well, I've just been to the store for some recon. Every single drink that isn't loaded with phenylalanine sources or mineral water has between 40-45 kcal/100 ml. Low fat milk, high octane Red Bull, fruit juices, fruit juice concentrates, 2.5% beer, everything.

In the words of my landsman Peter Stormare, is this good or bad?

Magic_Marker 03-23-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Archbio (Post 1026998)
And time. Time being money, that means that it's not always actually cheaper. My understanding is that not everybody has a schedule that's flexible and/or free enough to learn to cook healthy and then cook.

Very true. But I find in most cases with people I meet when they complain they have no time, in actuality they would need to cut down on video games, internet use, etc. before they would have time to cook. I was that way.

That isn't to say there there aren't legitimately people whose live WILL NOT allow for home cooked meals, but in my exprience it's best to try cook, decide you don't have time, and stop than not try at all.

Meister 03-23-2010 04:08 PM

Well, it's better to have natural juice than sweetened soda, but if you're looking for a low-calorie drink you need to be looking somewhere else entirely.

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Originally Posted by Archbio (Post 1026998)
And time. Time being money, that means that it's not always actually cheaper. My understanding is that not everybody has a schedule that's flexible and/or free enough to learn to cook healthy and then cook.

True, but that just means you have to look around for quick recipes. One of my favourites lately has been red lentils with spinach. It takes 20 minutes tops, it's delicious and literally the only prep work you have to do is chop an onion. If you have time to stop at a McDonald's or bake a frozen pizza you have time to make this.

Magic_Marker 03-23-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Meister (Post 1027009)
True, but that just means you have to look around for quick recipes. One of my favourites lately has been red lentils with spinach. It takes 20 minutes tops, it's delicious and literally the only prep work you have to do is chop an onion. If you have time to stop at a McDonald's or bake a frozen pizza you have time to make this.

Also do not discount the Big Ass Salad. Stock up on veggies, then cut the fuck out of a head of lettuce and throw in whatever seems good: Peppers, Onions, Celery, A clove or two of Garlic, Tomatos or any fucking plant you want.

Boom, lunch for a week. Keep it wrapped and fresh and add your favorite meats, (eggs, bacon, chicken, beef, whatever) dressings, and spices to change things up daily.

Takes maybe 20 minutes to chop the plants up if you know what you want, then add whatever time it takes to add the meat, of your choice if you want a carnivore's salad.

katiuska 03-23-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Azisien (Post 1026925)
This seems relatively misleading to me. Most juices I know of aren't loaded with high-fructose corn syrup. Switching from cola to juice would be way better for you.

They totally are, unless you're thinking of like, orange juice. Pretty much all of them come in non-HFCS varieties, but standard Minute Maid, Ocean Spray, and the like all have it. I'm tempted to try sugar Pepsi, but I don't know, do they compensate with an equivalent amount of sugar? Because really, you shouldn't be consuming that many monosaccharides in any form.

Not that that stops me, mind you, but I've made that choice.

Azisien 03-23-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Melfice (Post 1027001)
Any unsweetened juices are positively loaded with natural sugars from the fruit itself.
I think they even have a higher sugar content than sodas, but don't quote me on this.

Sugar isn't bad for you. Bad sugar is bad for you. If you eat an apple, all you've really done is eaten sugar and water, and a bit of fiber.

I was curious about your possible fact, though, so I looked it up:

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Originally Posted by Calorie Count.com
Tropicana Grovestand Orange Juice: 110cal, 22g sugar per 8oz.
Coca-cola: 97cal, 27g sugar per 8oz.
Barq's root beer: 111cal, 30g sugar per 8oz.

Dairyland Skim Milk: 91cal, 13g sugar per 8oz.

Milk wins!

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Originally Posted by katiuska (Post 1027014)
but standard Minute Maid, Ocean Spray, and the like all have it.

Ew, minute maid...

MasterOfMagic 03-23-2010 04:34 PM

Juice makes me think of like, Juicy Juice. Not Minute Maid.


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