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Sifright 03-25-2012 03:21 AM

................ Sigh thats it no more mafia for me. bastard games are the worst.

Moogle0119 03-25-2012 03:29 AM

Yeah this was rather disappointing, sorry IC. I hate games that are out to teach players a lesson or for them to guess what the GO is doing differently in order to win (and going against the whole spirit of mafia games in general). :(

Nikose Tyris 03-25-2012 06:34 AM

...This is actually pretty close to what I was expecting and I actually enjoyed this. :3

Ryanderman 03-25-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 1184261)
Man this better not be there is no actual mafia game. Cause i'll cut a bitch.

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BahamutFlare 03-25-2012 09:50 AM

What happened to there will be a mafia? No one was mafia. I'm with Sif and Moogle. I'd prefer to evaluate people rather than figure out the GM's obscure plan.

Geminex 03-25-2012 10:21 AM

Okay, I was gonna apologize for never being around enough to do anything except for submitting night actions.

But considering how this ended, it seems that the only winning move..
was not to play.

Inbred Chocobo 03-25-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BahamutFlare (Post 1190328)
What happened to there will be a mafia? No one was mafia. I'm with Sif and Moogle. I'd prefer to evaluate people rather than figure out the GM's obscure plan.

I said I would lie. I never said about what. Also notice I never said how town wins, just that you win when they win.


I will say the most annoying part about this was that I gave Aldurin a chance to ask one question that I would answer truthfully. When Smarty joined in, I gave his character a way to ask that question if Aldurin died (which happened, and I sent him the request for a question), but then Smarty never asked for it in a night and day that he was alive for that, and then died off.

What was the main purpose of running a no-mafia game? Two reasons. One, I hate the miller role, and what it does, and I don't think it should be in a mafia game. So I put a game in heavy emphasis on not trusting anything that comes up, with so many miller claims that you couldn't trust what exactly came up. (I honestly thought day one when so many claimed miller, it would've been obvious what was going on, but oh well).

Two, what exactly happens when you read people and you come up with nothing in regular mafia games? People go for stupid things, and make mistakes. A game that there is no mafia, and that there is nothing to read, it was all bad mistakes that people were reading. Everyone's well thought out plan, everyone's ideas on theory of how to find mafia and how not to? It wasn't going to work, and I wanted to see how people handled that. I wanted people to think exactly what do they do when they get no leads. Basically, I wanted to make sure people knew that not matter what you think, no matter what you plan, you can always still be wrong, oh so wrong. Was that accomplished here? Eh, I'm not sure the message got through, but I don't think just writing up a paragraph and stating you people need to think up better ways to analyze for scum than the tried and true methods would've worked either, so I came up with this bizarre plan.

I seriously doubt though that there will be another no mafia game in the near future at all though, so those that didn't like this game, or thought it was a bad idea, I urge you to play in another, and you should find that you will still have a taste for regular mafia. For those that did enjoy the game, thank you for your time.

Fenris 03-25-2012 11:03 AM

Hahaha, so that explains why I wasn't getting any scum-tells the first couple of days.

Aldurin 03-25-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sifright (Post 1190318)
................ Sigh thats it no more mafia for me. bastard games are the worst.

That's understandable, bastard games are only really fun for the person running them.

Heh, the question I asked was which Miller claims were true. In retrospect, it would have been nice to ask how many mafia factions there were. I just hate getting an info role and being unable to go anywhere with it when I get something useful.

Also, for those that haven't noticed yet, signups for my game are open. I'm going to be trying to run a more vanilla setup of mafia so that you don't have to worry about unexpected twists with ambiguous fairness.

Moogle0119 03-26-2012 08:29 AM

See bolded parts below...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo (Post 1182965)
Here is the back story of this mafia game.

Everyone here is a member of a Secret Agent service, all in a military grade defense fortress in an undisclosed location. An alarm goes off, warning the building has been intruded by enemy forces. Protocols dictate that everyone should gather in the designated area, and as everyone gathers around, people check motion sensors and cameras to confirm that no one outside of this room is in the building. The lockdown is still in effect, and soon everyone realizes that there are someone, or a group, that doesn't belong in here, and need to be removed.

There is a Mafia
There may or may not be a Cult
There may or may not be a Serial Killer
There may or may not be a 5th Unknown Party

A warning about this game: There will be roles that manipulate what I post, so just to put it up front, I will lie in this game. That is all. Simply post, and after a yet determined amount of time, I will close sign-ups and get this party started.

EDIT: A Few rules I wanted to put out for people.

1: Unless your role says otherwise, do not discuss this game while in progress with people alive. Dead players may consult with each other, but a dead player is not allowed to consult with an alive player, nor are alive players allowed to consult with each other. (Because of this rule, dead players, no matter who they are, will not be allowed to re-enter the game taking over someone else's role if that person went inactive)

2: This is how Lynches will work. The day ends and the results of the lynch will be announced once one of two conditions are meet. First condition is majority the current players have voted on someone. If this total is reached, then someone unvotes dropping majority before I declare the day is over, then the unvote will count and the day shall continue. Second condition is that once a time period runs out (It will be open at first, and I'll start a 48 hour deadline when I feel things slow down) then the highest total of votes on one player will be the deciding factor.. If there is a tie, we will enter Tie-breaker mode. In this mode, there will be a brief 24 hour period. At the end of that period, the totals are re-tallied. If it is still tied after that, then the day ends in no-lynch and moves to night. During that 24-hour period, people can vote, unvote, and change vote as many times as they wish, the totals will not be re-calculated until I post again. If I have said the deadline is 48 hours from now, and we are at the 50 hour mark and I haven't posted and you then vote or unvote there, then it will still count. No posts before my day ending post will not be ignored.

3: You most post at least once per day (in game). At the end of the night, everyone that didn't post will get a warning. At the end of the next night, every person that got a warning the previous night will be killed that night, unless the person contests via pm that they will post. If they fail to do so and a third night hits, they will be killed the third night, no arguments asked.

4. For a Vote to count, please have it bolded on at the beginning of a line (you may have text after it on the line.)

Vote: Guy Because he is a jerk (<--- I will count this vote)

Because he is a jerk Vote: Guy (<--- I will not count this vote)

The List
1.) Geminex
2.) Ryanderman
3.) Karesh
4.) Moogle0119
5.) Hawk
6.) Fenilicious
7.) Mr. Bookworm
8.) Sifright
9.) Aldurin
10.) Nikose Tyris
11.) Lawful Neutral
12.) BahamutFlare
13.) greed
14.)

You said that there would be roles that manipulate what you post IC and that you will lie in the game, but I think it was incredibly misleading for you to lie in the sign-up thread about information of the game (since there was no mafia as you claimed there was).


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