Not having the word "Nintendo" on the system is a pretty big selling point for some. Just being an alternative to the kiddy system is enough to sell units to the "Madden and FPS only, and every other game is shit" crowd.

But that'll keep people buying the current model. Snake's idea of waiting until they can do something really neat that's unimaginable now like... holographic projection or tactile controls without a physical controller. Or just better graphics. Whatever.

The improved graphics over the DS and the games that will be on it. I generally get consoles for the games that will be on them, I don't know about you. Also, in my experience, Nintendo has a better record for not releasing faulty equipment.

Like I said, my PSP sees very little use, and when it does it's usually for stuff I could play with an old school emulator or on another console. That and Sony doesn't seem very interested in hyping their future PSP games like the new Kingdom Hearts, so it's hard for me to really care about the PSPs future. Unless Sony kicks it in the ass and gets some decent third party support the PSP and drastically changes what they do with it, I won't be remotely interested in a PSP2.

Reading the Review Mudah gave me It seems to me that the 3ds will be doing something Like Piku-Piku or Wiggle autostereoscopy which would not be totally dependent on the hardware but a good processor would be needed to use it correctly

I stopped reading after this.

To be short, a demo unit is NOT going to be superior to the final product. That's why they have demo units. This is a totally inane argument and you're trying to force burden of proof onto me or anyone else who has a word to say about it knowing full well that your criteria are impossible. You admit that there is good word from a reliable source, but instead of accepting that, you're ignoring it because it's getting in the way of your argument. In fact, you're ignoring the double standard of rejecting word of mouth from a reliable source versus word of mouth from a random guy on the Internet.

Please take a step back to consider this, because I know you're smarter than that.


Now, having addressed that and checking the history...


Short answer, yes.

Long answer, it has to be competitive with what's on the market. The DS line got popular by being a good system for a good price. The PSP launched as a great system for roughly $100 extra, but suffered from a much smaller native library.

If you are going to compete, you need to compete in all areas. If you're not going to compete directly, you need to offer something only your fanbase is going to want. If you ARE going to compete directly, you're going to have to find something everyone wants that the competition doesn't have and give it to them.

With the history if the price disparity between the two lines, Sony is going to need to find something big to add, either for its own fans, such as PS2 compatibility, or for everyone, such as, heck, I dunno, a cell phone or something.

This is partly true. They may be working on something. But contrary to what you're saying, timing matters a whole lot. Getting your product out to the masses before someone beats you to it is paramount to grabbing market share, rather than having to try to wrest it away later. If they have a system in the works, they'll continue to develop it and maybe make some changes to stay in line with the market. If they don't, they now know what plans to draw up and can set out thinking what they could add to pull consumers.

In the meantime, they also can assess whether staying in that section of the market is cost effective. If it's not, they aren't fully tied to it yet and can abandon it.

Because both are what's going to be sharing the market come next year, barring an announcement from Sony.

Strangely enough, krogoth, it's precisely because I want Sony to succeed that I'd prefer to see them drop out of the handheld fight, at least temporarily.

Sure, Sony could pull off a miracle and come to the table in a year or two with a radically new PSP2 model that'd shock us all with innovations we'd never dare expect to find in handheld gaming. But the lack of even a mere mention of the PSP2 (combined with an exceptionally lame advertising campaign, rolled out in something akin to a desperation move) in this year's E3 makes me highly doubt Sony has a secret up its sleeve.

In that case, in the short term, Sony should concentrate on making sure it outclasses Microsoft in the HD console market, where the PS3 actually has a built-in hardware advantage that Sony hasn't fully exploited. Sony is fighting a number of battles now and it needs to make sure it at least pulls a hefty profit and establishes some degree of dominance in one of these fields. If not, I suspect the X360 and the 3DS will leave Sony in the dust as this generation's Sega. I'd much rather see Sony invest into exclusive PS3 games than waste time on a thoroughly outclassed PSP at this juncture.

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My DS and Wii are currently seeing limited use. I love the DS, but the last game I got was Zelda, don't really play the DS as much, my PSP sees almost no use now, actually it hasn't seen any use since my wedding? Maybe longer. I'm not trying to bash the 3DS. I just think it's odd that Blue and Snake are advocating Sony abandoning the Hand Held business because they can't beat the DS/DSi/3DS.

I agree Nintendo has a great record of producing good equipment, even the Virtual Boy's hardware worked great. But they just seem to be cramming more and more into tinier stuff I get worried that sooner or later they'll bit of more then they can chew.

I hope Sony develops something great for the PSP2 or whatever they'll call it, having only one real hand held on the market scares me.

Edit @ Blues: Actually a Demo unit is usually developed with more care then something that gets chugged out of an assembly line, so yeah, the final product has a chance to have problems a demo unit didn't because of that.

Why?

Why what?

Why would only one handheld being on the market scare you? The Gameboy Advance certainly wasn't any worse for it.

I'm failing to see how only one handheld will kill what Nintendo started.

Though it could kill their innovative streak.