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synkr0nized 01-16-2010 01:40 PM

for the lulz
 
@Mirai -- hence the quotes. They have blogs/articles and reviews and things like that, so it kind of works. I mean clearly their focus is on entertainment and not just straight news and commentary, so it's not like sitting around reading Kotaku or IGN all day.


@NonCon -- My intent is not to sound like I am defending Yahtzee from your opinion, but I am amused at your complaint of him "bitching" when you run a game review site with the tagline "We hate the games you like. That's how we know we're right."

Premmy 01-16-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen (Post 1007469)
Gaming news sites? I don't know if you'd call the Escapist that - the only 'news' segment there is practically rolls in satire every week. It's mostly an entertainment channel with a slew of articles and the occasional review.

I mean you're fine in not liking it but I feel that comparing it to 1up or Kotaku (Which you may or may not be doing) is a bit unfair to it.

The Escapist has long been a news magazine/ Discussion site, they put up a series of text articles based on a different topic each month. They're very good. You should read them.

Mirai Gen 01-16-2010 05:16 PM

Yeah I know about their articles - I even said they have them. They're just of a completely different cut from most mainstream 'news' sites since their manner is pretty laid-back.
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Originally Posted by synkr0nized (Post 1007488)
@Mirai -- hence the quotes. They have blogs/articles and reviews and things like that, so it kind of works.

Ah okay, fair enough. I wasn't sure if you were comparing it to them or not, which is why I was kind of cautious.
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Originally Posted by synkr0nized (Post 1007488)
@NonCon -- My intent is not to sound like I am defending Yahtzee from your opinion, but I am amused at your complaint of him "bitching" when you run a game review site with the tagline "We hate the games you like. That's how we know we're right."

As far as myself on GPD, I'm completely self-aware that bitching is pretty much all I ever do. It's a fun time though.

Sky Warrior Bob 01-16-2010 05:56 PM

I admit I don't follow Yahtzee much anymore. It might be because I'm having a harder time following what the man is saying (either he's faster, or its because I've lost interest in hearing everything he says). Or its because he's become a prick who just can't be bothered to say anything good about a game.

The reviews don't seem to be about what games are really good & which ones are awful, its just about him pointing out every little nitpick. And maybe its just because I've tired of his style, but his comments don't even seem all that clever anymore (of course, not being able to follow his quick speech doesn't help).

Maybe its just me, but his reviews are too much shtick, and not enough review.

SWB

Kim 01-16-2010 06:09 PM

I'm actually fairly nice to games, in my opinion. Just thought the tagline was funny.
 
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Originally Posted by synkr0nized (Post 1007488)
@NonCon -- My intent is not to sound like I am defending Yahtzee from your opinion, but I am amused at your complaint of him "bitching" when you run a game review site with the tagline "We hate the games you like. That's how we know we're right."

My complaint isn't so much the bitching in and of itself, because that's kind of the point of Yahtzee, as that I think "This game is too hard. NES difficulty is obsolete." is a really stupid opinion. Even then, I could probably ignore it as Yahtzee just being dumb or whatever, but then he goes into his Mario and Luigi 3 review with a bit about "Back in my day games were hard and you're all a bunch of wimps." which is not only incorrect, as Krylo pointed out in the other thread, but a statement that seems fairly hypocritical to me. As such, any time I know he's going to bitch about the difficulty is some way, shape, or form, I try to avoid the review, because I'm sure I'll not only disagree, but be extremely irked about how it conflicts with stuff he's said before. It may be a weird nitpick, though.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 01-16-2010 06:24 PM

You guys are all way overthinking this. Yahtzee complains about games. Doesn't matter if it's a steaming pile of a game or the most fantastic thing ever to grace the earth, he's going to complain about it. Even if he likes it he'll find faults, unless it's Pyschonauts or Portal. Whether it's hard, easy, a joy to play or a hellish descent into frustration, whether it has the tiniest of real faults to split hairs over, or gaping holes in plot, gameplay mechanics or graphical quality, he will complain about it.

It's called taking the piss, whether he has to be a hypocrit or not the only reason he's doing the reviews is to take the piss and complain, whether his complaints are justified or not. It's harmless, biased, hypocritical, fun that has no real meaning at the end of the day.

So just lighten up, don't take anything he says seriously. He's ragged on enough of my own favourite games before now and while I don't agree with the things he says it doesn't mean I still can't laugh along with it.

And if you don't find it funny and his complaints do get on your nerves, then don't watch his videos. Simple as that.

Regulus Tera 01-16-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Krylo (Post 1007416)
Yeah, but you're the guy what doesn't like Secret of Mana.

Your taste in games is pretty terrible.

Being the only sane voice of reason in this world of darkest powers is a disheartening endeavour at time. :(

bluestarultor 01-16-2010 11:55 PM

You know, I think Yahtzee himself said that he's a critic on several occasions. That's what he does is criticize, and he does it in a humorous way. He also tosses in the merits of a game amongst the bile and frankly, I consider him much more reliable than any of the other reviewers on the site, who all seem too keen on polishing the apple unless there's no possible way they can justify it. Or at least that's how it is in their video "supplements." I've been going through them out of sheer boredom today, and it's really starting to irk me with all the "this game adds nothing to gaming or its own series, but that's vaguely okay somehow" or "well, the game sucks, but listen to that soundtrack. Mmmmmm, soundtrack..." bull that really makes it all sound very castrated and wimpy, like they're afraid of getting their houses burned down. Yahtzee doesn't pussyfoot around like that.


Edit: Jordan Deam is probably the best non-Yahtzee reviewer in terms of honesty. The editor seems way too keen on spinning games to make even the flaws sound good, while the only female of the bunch seems to like everything unless it's outright sexist, and while she's not terrible, I feel like I have to take what she says with a grain of salt.

Mirai Gen 01-17-2010 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera (Post 1007642)
Being the only sane voice of reason in this world of darkest powers is a disheartening endeavour at time. :(

That sure sounds like something Yahtzee would say.

Osterbaum 01-17-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SMB
I used to watch ZPunctuation every week and it was funny but somewhere along the line he lost his touch and his originality...

Just wanting to point out, that this is not an unusual thing to hear about any series that's been going on for a relatively longer period of time.


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