Mike isn't very good at trolling.
 

In truth I'm probably a little harsh on them and need to cut back. Part of it, I think, is just being annoyed at all the bitching I heard when Crimson Echoes was actually canceled, when I couldn't really understand why people were so excited for it in the first place. More specifically some of the really really stupid bitching. I'm sorry that a game people were looking forward to got C&D'd, but being able to hack a twenty year old rom does not qualify someone for a gig at Squeenix. I'm fairly sure you never made that argument, but that was one that got on my nerves a bit back then, and stands out in my memory.

Oh god I totally hate it when people do shit like that, especially when they keep their tribute in the same stupid medium because thats just asking for trouble. And it even angers me more when I see people get insanely popular over it and they don't have anything else under their belt so that just means all they can do is steal stuff and just are dirty thieves who's reinterpretation on said project should be immedately discounted and stupid and they should burn in hell for all eternity! The only thing I hate MORE than that is people who are British! God, I would hate to ever be involved with something like that. ANGER!!!!

Don't make it personal, Kroze, you'll only look less for it.
 

Then where is the line drawn?
So its okay to be done with tv shows and movies but not with video games?
I thought people have been fighting for awhile to get the two on the same level playing field and looked at and viewed the same exact way.

I was mainly just fighting Blue's point about its wrong doing a tribute or a fan work within the same medium as the original material...

Also, last I checked wasn't Twilight just Anne Rice fanfiction? Cuz I am pretty sure it was...

I can't think of anything to put here that wouldn't be offensive.
 

While also referring to my posts in your angry exaggerated rant.

Proving my point that most fanfiction is terrible.

Actually, I've hear everythign from Anne Rice fanfic to Buffy and Angel fanfic for Twilight. I think it's just something snarky internet jerks say to further (and, frankly, unnecesarily) sleight Twilight.

I mean, just because Bella is a major Mary Sue does not a fanfiction make.

Yes because downloading a FREE fan made game and then playing it for a couple minutes won't give you a good feel on how good the game actually is and plays.
Just like looking at a picture for a few seconds on deviant art and being able to tell if it sucks ass or not... or reading the first paragraph of a fanfiction written on fanfiction.net.
Why can't people judge for themselves if something is good or not?

You don't have to get pulled into the hype and really these fan made game projects take an awful lot longer to make then just drawing up a picture or writing a few paragraphs of dialog and releasing your first chapter. Some youtube videos aren't there for hype at all, its to show ACTUAL progress is happening on the game itself and to show its not dead to all the people who are waiting for it.

I honestly wonder if we'd be having the same conversation here if the game wasn't a rom hack and instead made by itself... which Squenix has shown with Chrono Resurrection that they would STILL shut it down either way if they did all the programming or did not.

While there are a LOT of bad fan games out there, there are also a shitload of GREAT fangames out there that top even the actual companies attempts at making games...

Sonic Robo Blast 2 is possibly the greatest example of this... Hey! Its a Sonic game that actually plays AMAZINGLY WELL in 3D and plays just like the classics and its made in FREAKIN DOOM LEGACY.

And how about stuff like the Left 4 Dead demake that Valve themselves loved?

Finally, yes... lets be more critical of a game before its released and that we haven't played or experienced yet.
Judge a book by its cover much?

I am a pretentious prick.
 

Not until it's released it won't. Which was why I said hype period. You know, the period in which they hype up a game. Because it is an extended duration of time, that being what I meant by period, during which the game is not being actually experienced in any tangible way, but instead only enough that people might get excited for it, which is what hype is. As opposed to choosing the words in my posts completely at random.

Fans can be just as responsible for hype as the creators. When someone sends me a Youtube link talking about how awesome something looks, they are trying to build hype just the same as the creators are by putting that video up.

I'd probably still assume that the story would be complete and utter ass, but I'd think that the game creators were less lazy with the game itself, so there is that in their favor.

I've played this and it's nowhere near as good as you build it up to be. Part of the reason is that Sonic feels like he's out of control in a bad way.

You'll note the inclusion of such key words as "majority" and "most" in all my posts. It allows for outliers such as these. Not to say I've played this though. I'm not really interested in it.

Yes, because when you watch a trailer of a game before it's released and think it looks awesome, regardless of whether it's a fan game or not, you totally aren't judging a book on its cover. Totally.

It seems to me you are confusing hype with people having a genuine interest in something that has not been released yet. I don't understand how you can view something like that as bad. Without word being spread, Firefly would have NEVER become as big a hit as it did become.

I was comparing it to every single 3D Sonic game made my Sega thus far and compared to those, this is leaps and bounds ahead of anything from the official games and what those have given us...

So far everything you have said can easily be said and applied to actual video games in development.
The problems you are referring to aren't just confined to fan made games.
Hell, at the rate of how many fan made games go under the radar till they are actually released and stay under the radar is way WAAAAAAYYYY less then the actual video game industry itself.
And we all know that's not gonna be changing any time soon.

I thought these differences fairly obvious.
 

And we all know how that story ended. My problem is less with the hype itself, and more that the hype is based entirely around "Guys fans are making a fan game based on Chrono Trigger and you know it's gonna be good because they're fans so they'll give the fans what the fans want."

Yes, except, more often then not, hype for other video games is based around features of the game, like Fable's hype is about all you can do, or they've enjoyed other works by the same people, so they have faith that those people will put out a product of similar quality to that which they previously released. Hype for fan games is based almost entirely on the "fan" part and not enough on the game.