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Kim 06-06-2010 11:40 PM

That one's called Move. It's mildly less dumb.

Magus 06-06-2010 11:51 PM

So is the horrible SIX-AXIS officially dead, then?

Kim 06-06-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus (Post 1048780)
So is the horrible SIX-AXIS officially dead, then?

No. Games that use the regular controller will still abuse it like it's going out of style. Actually, there are some decent uses of SIX-AXIS.

synkr0nized 06-07-2010 03:42 AM

'cause using 1980s zapper tech for motion is better!
 
I'm-a wait a second here.


OK.

Waving a plastic stick around is less retarded looking than free-range motion?

I'm assuming these people are just dumb and will not hop on this bandwagon until I see some real Natal use.

Kim 06-07-2010 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by synkr0nized (Post 1048822)
Waving a plastic stick around is less retarded looking than free-range motion?

Seeing as I've yet to play a game for the Wii that requires me to run back and forth across the room, and maybe two that actually required me to stand... Yes, it is indeed less stupid looking. The majority of Wii games I've played have all had me either using the Wiimote as an aiming device, doing quick simple motions with the wiimote, or, on occasion, both. I get that it's cool to hate the Wii, because quite honestly its library is shit, but it really isn't half as bad as you make it sound. Unless of course I missed the thirty major titles for the console that somehow look dumber than the video I just watched.

I could also go into how the Wii actually gives you a device to interact with and buttons to press, giving the player more opportunity for finesse that I really don't see happening with Natal anytime soon.

synkr0nized 06-07-2010 04:13 AM

keep rollin', rollin', rollin'
 
The commercials and promotions for Wii controllers clearly show people standing around flailing about. The fact that it's easily figured out (simple wrist movements are all you need) on the couch doesn't mean people weren't and aren't shown to be silly looking while playing.

A guy and his family being retarded with their kids is hardly proof that a system is retarded. I'd rather see some video of how well the motion translates. Is it one to one? Is it wonky as shit?

If we're talking about doing movement = may as well go outside, word. I'm with you. But if we're just talking about quality of motion capture and control, I'm not sure I am.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk 06-07-2010 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by krogothwolf (Post 1048729)
Did he really just call himself sleek-looking?

I think the comment was intentionally self-derogatory. I'm ok with that.

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Originally Posted by NonCon (Post 1048781)
No. Games that use the regular controller will still abuse it like it's going out of style. Actually, there are some decent uses of SIX-AXIS.

Some? You mean there was more than 1 Heavy Rain game??



But yeah, that vid, that ain't gaming. That ain't gaming by a looong shot. I really do wish they'd just hurry up and release this crap already though, then everyone can go out and not buy it and Sony/Microsoft can see how nobody who plays their systems gives a damn about motion control.

Kim 06-07-2010 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk (Post 1048835)
Some? You mean there was more than 1 Heavy Rain game??

Folklore did a decent enough job with it, I thought. I've also heard good things about Heavenly Sword or whatever it's called arrow aiming thing.

I'm hoping this fails in the market just as badly as the PSPGo, if not worse. (Assuming the tales I heard of the PSPGo bombing like crazy were indeed true)

synkr0nized 06-07-2010 04:33 AM

It's a little telling when Wii Sports is the best use of the motion control...
 
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Originally Posted by NonCon (Post 1048836)
I'm hoping this fails [...]

I think I want it to, too. That way all the gimmicky bullshit can stay on the Wii where it won't bother anyone.



This isn't to say motion-sensitive games are all gimmicky bullshit or bad, but the overwhelming rush to develop for these projects will inevitably deluge us with loads of tripe that no one really wants to play, aside from some kids who like to flounder about the room with pretty lights and music.

ZAKtheGeek 06-07-2010 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk (Post 1048835)
I really do wish they'd just hurry up and release this crap already though, then everyone can go out and not buy it and Sony/Microsoft can see how nobody who plays their systems gives a damn about motion control.

Are you sure it's people who play their systems that they're trying to appeal to?

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Originally Posted by synkr0nized (Post 1048838)
That way all the gimmicky bullshit can stay on the Wii where it won't bother anyone.

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