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TDK 11-07-2011 10:19 PM

I just love Mel Brooks.
 
Seconded.

Grandmaster_Skweeb 11-07-2011 10:27 PM

Man Kyanbu, I've seen you say some pretty damn stupid things but this one takes the cake. Hypothetical situation or not I'm seriously goddamn disappointed.

Work in an office supply store during back to school shopping season. I fuckin dare you. Been workin at staples for nearly four years now and I've seen some damn respectable educators who dip into their savings and retirement stash to make sure their students can get the bare necessities for school and it is always rings to the same tune of "budget cuts."

I can think of at least three dozen teachers who come to my store regularly for supply runs. Fuck your charities, man.

Gettin far too riled up about this and don't care if I get warned. Be damned if I sit back and let that one slide by.

I have nothin but the utmost respect for teachers. Because when it all comes down to the brass tacks they're the ones making a difference. If I could I'd drop a hefty sum on all of 'em.

Jagos 11-07-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK (Post 1166442)

It kinda seems like the point here is to discuss whether or not we hate teachers, and this thread was made within the context that there are people and they hate teachers for some reason.

And I don't think that people hate teachers (then again, I'm something of an idealist on topics like these. I just can't conceive of why you would), so I'm left unsure of the point of this thread.

... Actually, the main point was just to see how people feel about teacher's salaries, not to hate on them for a crappy job, with crappy pay, crappy benefits, the most education and the most regulation... Ok, so the government has a hard time educating others. I just figured before I go and depress everyone like I have a habit of doing, I'd let people... Ya know... Talk about it first.

TDK 11-07-2011 10:29 PM

Just sayin'
 
Seems like an unnecessarily duplicitous way to pose that topic.

(Duplicitous may be substituted for 'indirect'. Also, why actors. By using actors rather than anything important you were suggesting a hatred of teachers, as I stated previously.)

Aldurin 11-07-2011 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jagos (Post 1166466)
... Actually, the main point was just to see how people feel about teacher's salaries, not to hate on them for a crappy job, with crappy pay, crappy benefits, the most education and the most regulation... Ok, so the government has a hard time educating others. I just figured before I go and depress everyone like I have a habit of doing, I'd let people... Ya know... Talk about it first.

I think we should talk about what movie Mel Brooks would make when he is personally "encouraged" by our ten million dollar "gift-that's-not-a-bribe".

Jagos 11-07-2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyanbu The Legend (Post 1166454)
Whatever, I'm still not changing my answer over something that's nothing but a hypothetical question anyway.

And on this note I'd better go ahead and post the reason for this story (before it gets ugly). There's actually a reason I brought up Ben Stiller. For a few days, I've been reading this story about how cities all over the US are subsidizing movies in Hollywood. That actually shows how we have some messed up priorities in governance. We give Ben Stiller $10 million from taxes as part of an overlapping subsidy for his new movie Tower Heist. The problem is, just recently 777 Employees school employees have been laid off in NY.

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The layoffs are a direct consequence of budget cuts to schools, which have occurred in each of the last four years, forcing principals to make tough decisions about what and whom to do without. Most of the burden will be shouldered by one labor union, District Council 37, which represents 95 percent of the workers who will be let go.
Point is, the number of people let go for the school equates to exactly the same as the subsidy given to Ben Stiller for his new movie. I truly did not think anyone would side against teachers though. I'm just going to step back on that one.

Kyanbu The Legend 11-07-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandmaster_Skweeb (Post 1166464)
Man Kyanbu, I've seen you say some pretty damn stupid things but this one takes the cake. Hypothetical situation or not I'm seriously goddamn disappointed.

Work in an office supply store during back to school shopping season. I fuckin dare you. Been workin at staples for nearly four years now and I've seen some damn respectable educators who dip into their savings and retirement stash to make sure their students can get the bare necessities for school and it is always rings to the same tune of "budget cuts."

I can think of at least three dozen teachers who come to my store regularly for supply runs. Fuck your charities, man.

Gettin far too riled up about this and don't care if I get warned. Be damned if I sit back and let that one slide by.

I have nothin but the utmost respect for teachers. Because when it all comes down to the brass tacks they're the ones making a difference. If I could I'd drop a hefty sum on all of 'em.

I really don't see how me giving the 10 mill to charaties is a god awful thing. Yes education is in dire need of it but so are other things too. Cancer Research, helping out 3rd world countries, and helping the homeless and the poor, providing jobs for the jobless, etc. So why turn this into a help teachers or else thread? It's like in the end there was never a choice, only one clear answer. And why is Liz not in the same water as me who said he'd keep it? Not that I want him to get dragged into this. (really hope he doesn't)

Kyanbu The Legend 11-07-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jagos (Post 1166476)
And on this note I'd better go ahead and post the reason for this story (before it gets ugly). There's actually a reason I brought up Ben Stiller. For a few days, I've been reading this story about how cities all over the US are subsidizing movies in Hollywood. That actually shows how we have some messed up priorities in governance. We give Ben Stiller $10 million from taxes as part of an overlapping subsidy for his new movie Tower Heist. The problem is, just recently 777 Employees school employees have been laid off in NY.



Point is, the number of people let go for the school equates to exactly the same as the subsidy given to Ben Stiller for his new movie. I truly did not think anyone would side against teachers though. I'm just going to step back on that one.

Yeah this probably should have been mentioned before.

On light of this situation. The money needs to go towards that school in NY. With every intent of saving those peoples jobs and bettering that school district as a whole.

TDK 11-07-2011 10:44 PM

Liz was clearly joking.

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Originally Posted by Jagos
Things Jagos said

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with Bit that this is a stupid way to make a thread.

Jagos 11-07-2011 10:46 PM

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Cancer Research
Patent law kills with that one.

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helping out 3rd world countries
Dambisa Moyo's talks on allowing the 3rd world countries to assist themselves is pretty convincing. I'll link the 8 minute version, but the 43 minute one is pretty good when she really gets going.



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So why turn this into a help teachers or else thread?
Uhm... I disavow all knowledge on that one...

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And why is Liz not in the same water as me who said he'd keep it?
Because he sparkles?


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