Gregness |
01-12-2012 02:39 PM |
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Originally Posted by Amake
(Post 1179238)
I think we're still pretty far from being able to say to someone "You are this way as a person because you have a penis" or anything along those lines. It seems the purpose of the study is to measure the degree to which a given sex as a whole tends towards living up to its associated stereotypes which as far as I can see doesn't help actual members of either sex in any way.
Determining exactly to which degree your generalizations apply doesn't really justify making generalizations about people. Although I'm sure it's going to be a big help to someone who want to say things like "63% of all women are very likely to have sex with more than two partners in a year; statistically speaking women are whores, and you are a whore because you are a woman".
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As far as I gathered from the article, they were making no statements about where the differences come from, or whether they're good or bad; simply that they exist and are larger than previously thought.
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Originally Posted by phil_
(Post 1179490)
Ok, Gregness, let me try this again. The metaphor doesn't describe what they're getting at, so forget it.
Normal personality research separates personalities into several personality traits. Normal comparative studies between men and women average men's and women's traits along all these traits into a single number each, then compare them. This produces results that ignore differences between men and women on specific personality traits.
Except that's all untrue. Your source is a bunch of assholes that misrepresent the research of others to get in the newspaper. I tried to write up an explanation of all this stuff last night, but this is all you have to know. They are frauds, they are trying to make a profit off of modern American distrust of science, THE END.
Continue to discuss real science.
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So, like, I dunno man. The article has a section for comments and the author of the original study that these guys are referring to made a rebuttal which these guys responded to and both parties were throwing around references like it's no tomorrow (a good thing for a scientific publication) but frankly it would take weeks to read all hundred plus references posted between the main article and comments section and then even longer to properly digest the contents all so that I can have a truly educated and informed opinion about what they're trying to say.
Or, I can say "huh, at first glance the math sounds reasonable" and come to the internet forum I hang out at and see if anyone else has more context with regards to subject matter.
ITT: come for the science discussion, stay for the freakouts.
EDIT: also, the bit about the time needed to read all those references? That's making the gigantic assumption that those references wouldn't also have their own references I'd need to read ad nauseum and at that point I might as well just get a psychology degree.
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