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Aerozord 06-18-2010 10:53 PM

so we dont have to worry about fluid, why not devolve secretion and evolve like, claws or something else we can use for climbing

Wigmund 06-18-2010 11:21 PM

I thought Squishy was big enough to just look over the wall's edges and then Squishy met Mr. Robot who greeted it with his fist.

Krylo 06-19-2010 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerozord (Post 1052174)
so we dont have to worry about fluid, why not devolve secretion and evolve like, claws or something else we can use for climbing

'Cause claws are only good for climbing soft materials. Like wood.

There's no wood where we are.

Only stone.

I'm pretty sure claws sharp and hard enough to dig into stone well enough to allow us to climb would require a series of evolutions to be applicable, kinda like our laser eyes are just now, hopefully, getting to be worthwhile.

Aldurin 06-19-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo (Post 1052272)
'Cause claws are only good for climbing soft materials. Like wood.

There's no wood where we are.

Only stone.

I'm pretty sure claws sharp and hard enough to dig into stone well enough to allow us to climb would require a series of evolutions to be applicable, kinda like our laser eyes are just now, hopefully, getting to be worthwhile.

Evolve claws like Knuckles has. Those things can climb up any surface with even the crappiest climbing technique.

Aerozord 06-20-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Krylo (Post 1052272)
'Cause claws are only good for climbing soft materials. Like wood.

There's no wood where we are.

Only stone.

I'm pretty sure claws sharp and hard enough to dig into stone well enough to allow us to climb would require a series of evolutions to be applicable, kinda like our laser eyes are just now, hopefully, getting to be worthwhile.

Depends on the rock, claws can fit into the small cracks and edges assuming the stone face isn't smooth. Plus there are alternatives, like those tiny hairs insects use

Fenris 06-20-2010 06:05 PM

Or secretions! :knowledge:

Aerozord 06-20-2010 06:24 PM

yes I am fully aware secretion can accomplish this, like what a slug does. But I suggest an alternative since our fluids are limited and we depleted every known source of it already

Arhra 06-21-2010 09:03 AM

Hmm, designing things is so very time consuming.

And I can safely say that nothing said so far has changed events in the slightest.

GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE.

akaSM 06-21-2010 11:29 AM

I don't think the nose has done anything for us, we should de-evolve it. If we need any other evolutionary slots we should take away our whiskers (makes us cuter, hasn't done anything else so far) and acid secretion (so far, I see no use for it) or even everything that relates to secretions, since there are no other ways to get more FLUIDS that we know of. Anyway, right now, de-evolve the nose, whiskers and acid secretion, lets keep the others just in case.

Next, we should eat what was left of the DWELLER. And see if the giant ROBOT is friendly or not, you know, it didn't attack us last time. We should go out where we saw it last time, if it isn't paying attention to us and is looking away, we should make some CUTE SOUNDS to attract it's attention without getting to exposed to another attack. If it does something that looks harmful to us, we should run and hide. otherwise, continue to make sounds and try to COMMUNICATE with it

Next, it's time to explore whatever we missed, if there aren't any rooms left in the upper part of the cave, it's time to go and see the HOLE the DWELLER came out of.

Finally, is there any way to increase the evolutionary slots? I'm thinking they're connected to our brain size. maybe they can be evolved. or are something that can be found.

Now that I think about it, try to evolve extra evolutionary slots, if that doesn't work, try to evolve a BRAIN that can have extra evolutionary slots.

Krylo 06-21-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by akaSM (Post 1052717)
since there are no other ways to get more FLUIDS that we know of.

Other than this:
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Next, we should eat what was left of the DWELLER
Also: Drinking anything.

Which we'll probably need to start doing eventually, anyway.

ALSO GUYS SERIOUSLY DEVOLVING THINGS NOT THE THING TO DO.

We have reached a plateau here. We can devolve maybe what, five things that we aren't using?

What can we do with five slots? Apparently we're working on a system of irreducible complexity here. We need to come up with some way to gain more evolutionary slots or we'll never be anything more than a vaguely animal shaped pink blob swapping things in and out.

Take, say, a gerbil, for instance. We could drop secretion control, acid secretion, sticky secretion, laser eyes, and giant mitochondria. That's five things.

Then to become a gerbil we'd have to evolve a central nervous system, a skeleton (and remember, growing a SPINE took an evolutionary slot, so we're looking at, at least, a few more evolutions to get this--like legs), a musculature system, internal organs (multiple evolutions), fur, teeth, claws, etc. etc.

Even assuming we can just say "Skeletons, fur, muscles, internal organs, teeth, and claws," that still uses more evolutions than we've removed, and we've only succeeded in becoming a small rodent.

There has to be a way to increase or evolutionary limit, and we aren't going to figure it out by just deleting evolutions constantly.


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