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Krylo 11-08-2011 02:40 AM

You never actually get out of high school.
 
No. It's high school.

Marc v4.0 11-08-2011 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo (Post 1166556)
No. It's high school.

Ok, yeah.

BitVyper 11-08-2011 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldurin (Post 1166548)
I am not backing down on what I said, since it's rare for posting like that to actually bother me. Sure people may say "Oh it's just Earl, nobody cares about him and his stupid posts"

Trust me, I'm the very last person you should say that to. There's at least three people around the board who can verify that I've come right out and said "hey, you know Earl's gotten around to making some pretty decent posts these days." This here

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I will still call out vicious posting when I am actually bothered by it. I won't care if people argue that I can't judge posts just because I'm not anybody else on the forum.
Is not one of them. You're being nasty to Betty on account of her doing pretty close to exactly what you claim to be doing. Not that I think she actually cares, mind.

There are legitimate ways to criticise people if you think they're being jerks. Failing that, there's always the report post button.

Acting as if you're spokesperson for the forum with statements like the one I addressed previously, and calling people vile power trippers, is not how you do it. Especially not in combination.

Edit: And like, what the fuck. Did no one notice my first page post? I was way meaner than Betty. Fuck all you guys.

Edit: APPARENTLY it's second page if you're using default view.

Professor Smarmiarty 11-08-2011 03:55 AM

What if I pay a bunch of actors to play teachers?

Geminex 11-08-2011 05:16 AM

Just let it trickle down.
 
The rich, duh.

Jagos 11-08-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Betty Elms (Post 1166543)
You're right in that this is just general discussion, and for that reason I would not be bothered by the way you chose to structure this thread if that was all that you were doing. But it wasn't, you chose to present the information in a way that was just as manipulative. Before you even start citing actual facts and sources you choose to lead into it with the most absurdly biased approach. You may not have intended for your thread format to have such a "gotcha" vibe and all of this could have been totally innocuous in intent, but when every post you make in this thread is propagandatastic enough that it looks like you're practicing to be either a cult leader or a FOX news pundit, I'm not going to immediately interpret it in a very friendly manner.

I've explained myself once, I will not explain myself anymore. If you want to be critical, that's your option and choice. I did this so that this wasn't one of my most serious threads like the one I'm about to post in Discussion, thinking that it would lead to a fun discussion about Hollywood's credits and subsidies. Oy vey...

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I didn't mean to imply that I thought you should have responded sooner. I was just bringing your posts up again as a means of emphasizing how shit I think this thread is, so as to make that post more effective.
And text is a poor conveyor of that effect, instead making it seem as if you want to hang a choice over my head of when I post. I've told you about it. I don't need to reinforce that idea by making a SECOND post just to say how this thread went south based on a poorly conveyed notion of what I thought was fun. Boy howdy, will I not do this again!

shiney 11-08-2011 11:59 AM

That's probably for the best, Mr. Jagos. It reads like someone who thought they were being clever but didn't count on the part where people want to discuss a situation based on its merits and not just on the theoretical situation that may or may not have a bearing on what actually occurred. In the future, it maybe is best for you to stick to your "the sky is falling" OPs, or in the event of a theoretical, to allow the discussion to remain theoretical instead of posting teasers.

Nobody really likes teasers. You're the news article that says "Article continues after the jump." The magazine feature that goes from page 33-37 and then fucking 92-95. WHY IS THERE A SIXTY PAGE BREAK. You're the news program that says "Are bears killing more people in state parks? The answer to this terrifying question, AND MORE, after a word from our sponsors. You're the boss who says "We need to talk about your recent performance, but first I have a two hour meeting with upper management."

You know?

Kim 11-08-2011 12:03 PM

Shiney, you forgot to include the person outright lying in any of your examples. Cuz I mean, goddamn this-

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And what if I told you Ben Stiller actually screwed over NY Teachers?
-is just completely untrue in every way.

Betty Elms 11-08-2011 12:17 PM

This feels more like some guy going "Hey I was just babysitting this kid and he decided to take a nap, and then I accidentally spilled pig's blood all over him, and I decided to bring in this altar of skulls because it provides such nice ambiance" before getting all self righteous and upset when I walk in and think they're sacrificing children to their ancient blood gods. And then they fucking accuse me of having a big discrepancy between the appearance and the intent of my actions.

Aerozord 11-08-2011 12:21 PM

Just to check, people do know that most actors don't pull the wages of movie stars right? Most cant even live off of what they make. And on the other side a college professor can break into the 6 digit income.

For the most part I'm with Betty. There are alot of factors that determine how much people make, some fair, some not. I am not sure giving that money for teachers is even a good idea. There are a finite number of students to teach, and there is no conclusive proof that smaller class sizes (thus more teachers) is a benefit. So while I find a teacher to be among the most important professions, I dont think giving them more money would aid society. Frankly if you were in it for the money, teacher probably wasn't the right career choice to begin with


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