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Professor Smarmiarty 02-13-2010 09:32 PM

Fuck you racism
 
S9 I just got bounced from the casino for hacing a non-british passport.
I dont' mean to denegrate the struggles of minorities who have much larger struggles than I but i just felt my first full brunt of racism and it's toug as shit. In this threa we relatre storyss of being shit upon because we were born in the wrong place/wrong colour.Fuck

Jagos 02-13-2010 09:54 PM

Story of my life dude. Trying being in the middle of Texas where people still like to carry guns.

There's a reason I don't go outside much.

Great Cartoonist 02-13-2010 09:59 PM

The way I see it, in this day and age racism may be outlawed, yet all that's doing is forcing people to channel their racism in more subtle ways.

Nobody's perfect, y'know. Everyone harbors, at the very least, a little bit of discrimination.

Wigmund 02-13-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 1015442)
S9 I just got bounced from the casino for hacing a non-british passport.
I dont' mean to denegrate the struggles of minorities who have much larger struggles than I but i just felt my first full brunt of racism and it's toug as shit. In this threa we relatre storyss of being shit upon because we were born in the wrong place/wrong colour.Fuck

Translation please?

MuMu 02-13-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wigmund (Post 1015458)
Translation please?

Not very hard to get but

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunky Barrelpants
So, I just got bounced from the Casino for having a non-british passport. I don't mean to denegrate the hardships of minorities who have much larger struggles than I but I just felt my first full brunt of racism and it's tough as shit.

In this thread we relate stories of being shat upon because we were born in the wrong place/wrong colour.

Fuck!

And kinda nitpicking here but I don't think that's exactly racism? Some other -ism, but not race.

Wigmund 02-13-2010 10:14 PM

Thanks for the drunk translation
 
What kind of casino requires a British passport? I can understand casinos asking for a valid form of identification - but a passport?

Jagos 02-13-2010 10:18 PM

Ain't one in Vegas. They love foreign money. Especially in this crap economy. Unless it's a smaller place. They can tend to be more discriminatory.

Azisien 02-14-2010 12:13 AM

He'll make up tomorrow and realize he got kicked out because he vomitted all over a blackjack table or something.

But not before he goes to every local media outlet in the county and screams racism.

Premmy 02-14-2010 12:32 AM

Nationalism. That is all.

Bells 02-14-2010 12:44 AM

We laugh now, and we will laugh later, but just by the first post i would guess that you had a decent night out and came home safe, so, it's ok to laugh !

Premmy 02-14-2010 02:28 AM

See, now, everytime one of these types of threads pop up, I always want to make a Basic Anti-Racism thread, but then, I just KNOW someone will take it as some kind of passive-Agressive douchery on my part, since my involvements in these threads usually devolves into frustrating discussions, and then We'll have drama.

CABAL49 02-14-2010 02:38 AM

Racism does suck. Bill Maher was in Raliegh, NC and I was fortunate enough to have a ticket. He made a good point about how the good ol' days really weren't that good.

Bells 02-14-2010 02:46 AM

Well... yeah. That's a given... people usually buy way too easily into the nostalgia crap, like "Old Style Cooking"... old style... before Sanitation?

However, i would play devil's advocate for a second here to point out that even though Prejudice in general is a stupid rationalization that we all do in some level, i dislike how we usually deal with it...

Like Women's rights... now, now... hold on. I'm referring to the notion that Harming a woman is a greater offense than harming a man, i mean, Me going out to hurt anyone should be a serious offense. Doesn't really matter if they are gay, women, jew, black or whatever... i'm not supposed to go out hurting people. Period.

It's not like Child Protection laws, because kids in general (not all, but the majority) can't process and discern like Adults, so they are a real example of exception.

Premmy 02-14-2010 02:54 AM

See? See that right there? It also makes me want to do a thread for Sexism,(although in truth my knowledge of sexism is secondary to my knowledge of racism and I'm not a "professional" in either regard, just an avid hobbyist of sorts >.<)
Edit:
Also, It'd be a Looooooong-ass post and ya'll mo-fo's don't like to read shit.

Si Civa 02-14-2010 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bells (Post 1015534)
Like Women's rights... now, now... hold on. I'm referring to the notion that Harming a woman is a greater offense than harming a man, i mean, Me going out to hurt anyone should be a serious offense. Doesn't really matter if they are gay, women, jew, black or whatever... i'm not supposed to go out hurting people. Period.

You know, they become more serious cases if you hurt gays, women, jews, blacks or whatever because they happen to be gays, women, jews, blacks or whatever. Because having such an idiotic reason to hurt somebody makes the crime worse.

And notice that if there.

And here's the song.

Edit:// And for fuck's sake, I will point that it's bad thing too if you hurt white, men or whatever because they happen to be white, men or whatever. Why they aren't covered in news, I don't know, maybe there's less those cases (and men usually don't say that they get beaten up by women 'cause their big ego).

Osterbaum 02-14-2010 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Premonitions
Nationalism. That is all.

There are different forms of nationalism.

Quote:

See? See that right there? It also makes me want to do a thread for Sexism,(although in truth my knowledge of sexism is secondary to my knowledge of racism and I'm not a "professional" in either regard, just an avid hobbyist of sorts >.<)
Racism is a hobby of yours?

Premmy 02-14-2010 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si Civa
Edit:// And for fuck's sake, I will point that it's bad thing too if you hurt white, men or whatever because they happen to be white, men or whatever. Why they aren't covered in news, I don't know, maybe there's less those cases (and men usually don't say that they get beaten up by women 'cause their big ego).

It's because they punish the ever-loving SHIT(in the US) out of non-whites/gays committing crimes against whites/Straights.
Though truth told, they also just punish the hell out if them in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osterbaum
Racism is a hobby of yours?

It's kinda odd to word
Quote:

Originally Posted by Extra-Wordy Premmy
Aint Nothin Better than opressing a Motha FuckaI'm not a student of the subject in the sense that I go to school specifically to learn about it, but I am in the sense that I personally persue information on it in my spare time for various personal reasons, the most signifigant being it has greatly improved the state of my life and myself in general.

So "Hobbyist" or "amatuer Anti-racist" sound best.
Quote:

There are different forms of nationalism.
Very true, but this is, based solely on the details given, apparently one of those, and not racism per se, though, of course more information could be needed, and it could have just as easily been him vomiting on someone.

01d55 02-14-2010 05:00 AM

Or from Germany?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Cartoonist (Post 1015457)
The way I see it, in this day and age racism may be outlawed, yet all that's doing is forcing people to channel their racism in more subtle ways.

When you say "outlawed" I assume you're speaking metaphorically?

Satan's Onion 02-14-2010 05:23 AM

And now, A Minute of Feminism.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bells (Post 1015534)
...
However, i would play devil's advocate for a second here to point out that even though Prejudice in general is a stupid rationalization that we all do in some level, i dislike how we usually deal with it...

Like Women's rights... now, now... hold on. I'm referring to the notion that Harming a woman is a greater offense than harming a man, i mean, Me going out to hurt anyone should be a serious offense. Doesn't really matter if they are gay, women, jew, black or whatever... i'm not supposed to go out hurting people. Period.

Until comparatively recently in human history, Bells, it was considered more okay--or at least less wrong--for a man to beat his wife than it was for him to, say, get in a fight with some other guy at a bar.

I know it kind of seems like "aw man, women're getting special laws and rights just for them, and that's not fair!" But the fact is that for much of human history women have already had a sort of "special law" apply to them, even when on paper it purports to apply to them equally--and that law amounts to "women will get the shit beat out of them and murdered regularly, because, well, maybe she shouldnt've burned the pot roast, I dunno, and whoever did it maybe gets the judge to wag his finger at him disapprovingly, at worst". All those "special laws" are just trying to make the law do what it's supposed to do already, because left by itself the law was (and in many places and many ways, still is) hopelessly broken.

This has been A Minute of Feminism.

Kim 02-14-2010 06:58 AM

Backwater towns are terrible.
 
What SO said.

My mother used to be a victim's advocate, and it was distressing how ill equipped and just... well... terrible the police and hospital were at helping women who had been abused by their spouses or had been raped. Treating it like it's worse to hurt a women or minority exists to actually make things balanced out, and it rarely even does that.

katiuska 02-14-2010 07:58 AM

^^ This.

I started thinking about this a while back when I was browsing through someone random person's blog about someone else's abusive girlfriend and an incident which resulted in the guy getting slapped with the handcuffs, even though she was the aggressor, because she acquired a mark in the process of him defending himself. The person writing lost points for suggesting that the father of her child (not the current boyfriend) was right in abandoning said child because the woman was a bitch, but I was basically with him until he started blaming the women's movements for situations like the one he described. It's like, look, the women's rights movement advocated domestic projection/justice for women because there was a time when domestic abuse towards women was condoned or at least not addressed, while violence toward men was much more likely to be punished. If the justice system is now skewed so that men are unfairly suspected of assault even when they were not the ones being abusive, we can all agree that's wrong and should be dealt with, but I don't think the solution is to reenact some kind of Rule of Thumb.

I'm more knowledgeable when it comes to women's issues, but I think the same principle would hold toward other minorities.

Yrcrazypa 02-14-2010 09:02 AM

Once I started thinking about it more, that's the thinking I came to as well. I don't agree with women/'minorities' being treated differently by the law, but I definitely agree that it is necessary for at least another few generations of people. Because these are all people who only a handful of generations ago were largely treated like garbage, we need to take steps like this to discourage people from treating them badly. Though once we figure out how to treat all men and women equally in all aspects we can slowly start phasing the law to treating everyone equally in all aspects. How long that will take, no one can know.

Osterbaum 02-14-2010 09:30 AM

True equality is not having to treat different groups differently.

Azisien 02-14-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Premonitions (Post 1015539)
See? See that right there? It also makes me want to do a thread for Sexism,(although in truth my knowledge of sexism is secondary to my knowledge of racism and I'm not a "professional" in either regard, just an avid hobbyist of sorts >.<)
Edit:
Also, It'd be a Looooooong-ass post and ya'll mo-fo's don't like to read shit.

We haven't lynched (heheh) Solid Snake yet, so I think we wouldn't mind. Just uh...use paragraphs.

bluestarultor 02-14-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katiuska (Post 1015578)
^^ This.

I started thinking about this a while back when I was browsing through someone random person's blog about someone else's abusive girlfriend and an incident which resulted in the guy getting slapped with the handcuffs, even though she was the aggressor, because she acquired a mark in the process of him defending himself. The person writing lost points for suggesting that the father of her child (not the current boyfriend) was right in abandoning said child because the woman was a bitch, but I was basically with him until he started blaming the women's movements for situations like the one he described. It's like, look, the women's rights movement advocated domestic projection/justice for women because there was a time when domestic abuse towards women was condoned or at least not addressed, while violence toward men was much more likely to be punished. If the justice system is now skewed so that men are unfairly suspected of assault even when they were not the ones being abusive, we can all agree that's wrong and should be dealt with, but I don't think the solution is to reenact some kind of Rule of Thumb.

I'm more knowledgeable when it comes to women's issues, but I think the same principle would hold toward other minorities.

And you know, a lot of times, when guys get abused by women, there are OTHER factors in the system. It's not just a matter of guys being seen as more likely to hit women than vice versa. If a guy is emotionally abused by a woman, good luck getting anywhere with that, and be prepared to hear a lot of people telling you to grow a pair of balls. If a guy is actually RAPED by a woman, and it happens, it's even harder to convict than the other way around, because of all the abuse people will give the guy if he talks about it, the misconception that a woman raping a man is impossible, and the idea that if he got it up, he "must have liked it" and it therefore doesn't count.

DFM 02-14-2010 02:15 PM

If he didn't want it he shouldn't have dressed like that.

Odjn 02-14-2010 02:28 PM

Feminism taught me it was ok to punch women as long as I punch twice as many men.

DFM 02-14-2010 02:34 PM

I don't get it!

Odjn 02-14-2010 02:44 PM

See, supporting inequality is ok when the people getting the short end of the stick are the majority.

DFM 02-14-2010 02:46 PM

What if you just punch one guy for every girl but you punch him twice as hard in the penis?

A Zarkin' Frood 02-14-2010 02:46 PM

The worst thing about racism is people calling racism even though no racism is involved.

Like in a Black Coffee Incident.

Anyway. I got some dumb comments by some people because of my English last name.
I even got called a filthy American pig by some Russian guy once. Good times.

Odjn 02-14-2010 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFM (Post 1015641)
What if you just punch one guy for every girl but you punch him twice as hard in the penis?

Only if you kick her in the vagina.

DFM 02-14-2010 02:50 PM

If it goes in, does that count as rape?

Melfice 02-14-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFM (Post 1015644)
If it goes in, does that count as rape?

Technically, yes.
But only if she didn't agree with it.

Odjn 02-14-2010 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFM (Post 1015644)
If it goes in, does that count as rape?

Only if she doesn't enjoy it.

DFM 02-14-2010 02:55 PM

No woman enjoys it.

Token 02-14-2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFM (Post 1015647)
No woman enjoys it.

Then you haven't been doing a good enough job.

Odjn 02-14-2010 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFM (Post 1015647)
No woman enjoys it.

Kick 'em again, that usually works.

Great Cartoonist 02-14-2010 02:57 PM

Wow, a thread on racism segued into jokes that make fun of women.

Archbio 02-14-2010 02:58 PM

Quote:

The worst thing about racism is people calling racism even though no racism is involved.
And here I thought it was the lynchings.

Silly me!

Also: holy hell, this is thread is one creepshow.

DFM 02-14-2010 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odjn (Post 1015649)
Kick 'em again, that usually works.


Women are like my lawnmower.

Melfice 02-14-2010 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Cartoonist (Post 1015650)
Wow, a topic on racism segued into jokes that make fun of women.

Did you expect anything else, here on NPF?

Great Cartoonist 02-14-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melfice (Post 1015653)
Did you expect anything else, here on NPF?

Now that I think about it, no.

That said, I strongly believe in equal-opportunity. As in, I believe women deserve an honest-to-god punch to the face as much as men.

Odjn 02-14-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Cartoonist (Post 1015650)
Wow, a thread on racism segued into jokes that make fun of women.

It's almost like they're an equally valid topic as pretty much the other options? (i.e. men!)

Professor Smarmiarty 02-14-2010 03:01 PM

Oh man what happened last night.... Fuck.

DFM 02-14-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 1015657)
Oh man what happened last night.... Fuck.

Someone kicked you in the vagina.

Great Cartoonist 02-14-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants (Post 1015657)
Oh man what happened last night.... Fuck.

Oh hey, you're typing coherently now. That must mean you're sober!

Odjn 02-14-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFM (Post 1015658)
Someone kicked you in the vagina.

Wasn't me I slipped him a roofie.

Gregness 02-14-2010 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satan's Onion (Post 1015559)
Until comparatively recently in human history, Bells, it was considered more okay--or at least less wrong--for a man to beat his wife than it was for him to, say, get in a fight with some other guy at a bar.

I know it kind of seems like "aw man, women're getting special laws and rights just for them, and that's not fair!" But the fact is that for much of human history women have already had a sort of "special law" apply to them, even when on paper it purports to apply to them equally--and that law amounts to "women will get the shit beat out of them and murdered regularly, because, well, maybe she shouldnt've burned the pot roast, I dunno, and whoever did it maybe gets the judge to wag his finger at him disapprovingly, at worst". All those "special laws" are just trying to make the law do what it's supposed to do already, because left by itself the law was (and in many places and many ways, still is) hopelessly broken.

This has been A Minute of Feminism.

Except that this isn't a problem with our laws, but a problem with the people who enforce them. Altering the law in this case simply isn't addressing the problem.

katiuska 02-14-2010 04:56 PM

I blame myself for this, really.

Professor Smarmiarty 02-14-2010 05:31 PM

Did you slip me the roofie?

Magus 02-14-2010 05:33 PM

Think people would focus on some good -isms for once. Like altruism, or pacifism. Did you know there are some altruists out there who are totally being nice to people right now without expectation of reward? Doesn't that make you feel positive?!

Anyway, Barrel, I know how you feel but technically them kicking you out of their casino was actually them doing you a favor, even if they don't realize it, because now you won't gamble all your money away. It's like a cloud's silver lining or something. Like, you may have been hit by a thunderbolt from a storm, right, but now you get to take a break in a hospital for a couple of months while you recover. It's all about looking at the sunny side!

Green Spanner 02-14-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magus (Post 1015679)
Did you know there are some altruists out there who are totally being nice to people right now without expectation of reward? Doesn't that make you feel positive?!

Except that they're probably doing it for their own self gratification, rather than a genuine desire to do good for good's sake.

HAR HAR CYNICISM.

Professor Smarmiarty 02-14-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magus (Post 1015679)

Anyway, Barrel, I know how you feel but technically them kicking you out of their casino was actually them doing you a favor, even if they don't realize it, because now you won't gamble all your money away. It's like a cloud's silver lining or something. Like, you may have been hit by a thunderbolt from a storm, right, but now you get to take a break in a hospital for a couple of months while you recover. It's all about looking at the sunny side!

Nah I'm the ultimate shark, the hustler extreme. It was an excuse so they didn't want to lose all their money.

Osterbaum 02-14-2010 06:39 PM

I bet.

Wait, no I don't.

bluestarultor 02-14-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Spanner (Post 1015680)
Except that they're probably doing it for their own self gratification, rather than a genuine desire to do good for good's sake.

HAR HAR CYNICISM.

Believe it or not, I'm an altruist, and a lot of times, most people would think it's not worth the effort.

In fact, a lot of the time, I come out of it feeling like shit because people can be such dicks. It doesn't stop me from helping people, just leaves me grumbling that things often turn out poorly.

Premmy 02-14-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azisien (Post 1015605)
We haven't lynched (heheh) Solid Snake yet, so I think we wouldn't mind. Just uh...use paragraphs.

Paragraphs are for Whores, Dirty, dirty whores.

Ecks 02-14-2010 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluestarultor (Post 1015713)
In fact, a lot of the time, I come out of it feeling like shit because people can be such dicks.

Fucking Kreia... making me feel like shit because I help every John and Jane Doe I come across... manipulative old bitch.

DFM 02-14-2010 09:54 PM

Don't worry, she feeds me the same shit when I go around kicking them in their vaginas.

Great Cartoonist 02-14-2010 10:09 PM

I'm convinced you people want nothing less than a sandbox game in which you can explicitly kick people in the crotch.
And receive an achievement for performing this on women.

DFM 02-14-2010 10:16 PM

Already made, Saint's Row II, Game of the Decade.

CABAL49 02-14-2010 10:24 PM

Fallout 3 also contained a cunt punt.

Premmy 02-14-2010 10:24 PM

Thread close, please.

Wigmund 02-15-2010 12:14 AM

Cunt punt in Fallout 3? Pray tell how one does this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Premonitions (Post 1015757)
Thread close, please.

:p Killjoy

CABAL49 02-15-2010 12:22 AM

Whenever I used the Fisto! in VATS, my guy did it. It might only work on certain opponents. I'll test this later.

Satan's Onion 02-15-2010 04:57 AM

O-kaaay. Look, if someone here wants to have a semi-intelligent discussion about the law and its response to people who've traditionally been the victims of oppression, they can feel free to start a thread about that. I kind of thought last night that that was how this thread might pan out, despite the way it started. But seriously, what the shitting fuck? I don't know whether you guys meant it to be "ironic" or some shit but the several-page cavalcade of "cunt punt" jokes on display still comes off creepy and awful more than anything.

I think I'm gonna close this before it gets even worse. Then I may go drink. (Look, drinking! We've come full circle!)


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