Australia gets Galaxy 2 and Other M this summer, what the-
 

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/107/1071574p1.html

It was mentioned that we will receive footage of Other M during the NoA conference, by the way!

o_o

Seriously, what.

They gearing up that supposed 3rd Pikmin game for December, or some WiiCasualStuff for that time(Not making fun of the genre, just pointing out the naming convention)?

It means Zelda for Christmas.

But still... unexpected news! But good news nontheless

What the hell?

What year is this? Are we still in our usual universe? Is hell looking at all nippy?

Woah now. Are you honestly saying Nintendo was being very hush-hush about something?

WHAT A TWIST!

Summary from the just finished NoA conference:

America's Test Kitchen for DS
DSi XL on March 28 for 189.99 USD.
100 Classic Books. Features everything from Dracula to Journey to the Center of the Earth. Basically, public domain stuff that Nintendo doesn't have to pay for but can make millions with. $19.99 on DS.
Galaxy 2 to include side-scrolling Yoshi levels.
Galaxy 2 on May 23
SIN AND PUNISHMENT 2 HAS BEEN RENAMED SIN AND PUNISHMENT: STAR SUCCESSOR WHAT THE FUCK NOA
SINANDPUNISHMENT2 IN JUNE 7 HOLY SHIT BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY NOW
FlingSmash?
HeartGold and SoulSilver in March 14
PICROSS 3D MAY 3RD HOLY SHIT
WarioWare DIY March 28th
Art Style Light Trax and Rotozoa for Wiiware
Mega Man 10 on March 21
Cave Story on March 22
Lots of shit I don't care about MONSTER HUNTER TRI NOW TIME
Bundled with CCPro in NA. WiiSpeak compatibility. GAMESPOT DEMO IN MARCH 8TH WATWAT
MHTri April 20.
Nintendo of America is publishing Dragon Quest IX... WATWATWAT
Metroid Other M is in June 27.
IF YOU FUCKERS BUY OTHER M INSTEAD OF S&P2 IMMA BUST YOUR KNEECAPS
You should get both, obviously.

I want to see videos of Other M!

Scratch that, Galaxy 2 trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ni...62270?type=flv

I'm giving it one month until the gov'mint bans videogames targeted at underage children because of the danger of perverts drawing Mario porn.

Yeah, just got the whole press thingy for Cave Story Wii.

So no DLC at all, I guess. Not gonna stop me from buying it, obviously.

Fuck, March is just all up into taking my monies. ;_;

Other M is 2D and 3D:

Images: http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail...AutD4Yq#images

Sin and Punishment: Star Successor trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ni...-sin-and/62272

THE VOICE ACTING DOESN'T SUCK HALLELUJAH also it's been updated graphically. It has a lot more colour now.

AND HEY LOOK AT WHO'S BACK

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/b...k6y4n69Uv8.jpg
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/b...ONGSeOGKdn.jpg
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http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/b...DmS8vYAwnq.jpg
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/b...bNkOtjuI2D.jpg
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IT'S KING GOLD SLIME

I'm hijacking your shout for what you said about the new Metroid being sidescrolling.

I could never stand the first person games. I'd be all like whee I'm exploring in space what the fuck stop shooting me in the back aaah got to turn around so slow so slow derp I died oh well now for another exciting adventure in misted-up HUD.

I think I actually woke up the neighbors with my orgastic shouts of relief when I read that To think, I might actually play a new Metroid game! The last (and first) one I seriously played was Super Metroid.

The Ninth Circle of Hell IS frozen...


EDIT: Her suit is still yellow. Goddammit, Team Ninja, get the Varia suit FUCKING right. It's ORANGE or as it's pronounced in your neck of the woods ORENJI.

I can't think of anything to say, but I have to say something. I really didn't expect Galaxy 2 and Metroid to come out less than a year after they were announced.

HEY GUYS, I'M EXCITED TOO, OK?! There, that sums up my feelings on the matter rather well.

Did anyone say it was the Varia suit? That's clearly the power suit. The shoulders and hips aren't NEARLY magnificent enough for it to be Varia.

also: what the hell crawled up your ass?

That's a good question. I'm probably pissed because I've been trying to breed for Timid Vulpix and Rotom for months now, and the closest I get to a nature that's "passable" is modest. Oh sure, I can breed for Timid Snover and Bold Spheal but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I can't have Timid Vulpix or Rotom. Or Jolly Gligar, for that matter. FUCK YOU RANDOM EGG GENERATOR.

Also, yeah, I'm probably overreacting to the suit... I'm still used to the non-spherical-shoulder power suit from Zero Mission, Prime, and Super. /shrug

Naw but seriously we should cut the poor guy some slack. He has a family!
 

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/b...Yqqmj9lXct.jpg

Keep sneering buddy. Everyone knows you die first.

And he had only one more day until retirement, too.

If the trailer's any indication, that would be the ubiquitous MBD. His one line, "Remembah me?" *visorflip* followed by its memetic mutation .0953 seconds later, means he's probably a semi-major character.

Galaxy 2 gameplay footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH5cayPQLBE

Damn.

Is that a Token Minority? Yeah, odds just went to 99.99999%...

Images from the Other M intro:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2v8pe2s.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/k3s3r.jpg

The video has not been uploaded yet.

I'm reading about how Other M's gameplay is supposed to work, and it sounds.... schizophrenic. If it works, it'll be an interesting way of using the Wiimote, but switching your brain between playstyles rapidly sounds frustrating.

I remain cautious of the game in general. It sounds more plot/character heavy, which would make me concerned at the best of times let alone when the guys behind DOA Beach Volleyball are in control. Seeing so much suitless Samus in the previews is not exactly serving to allay my worries. Mainly though these things almost invariably detract from elements like sequence breaking and the feeling of isolation on a hostile world.

The gameplay looks cool, although worrisomely combat focused, which could just be trailer-syndrome, although even then it still looks like it's been built for a more combat oriented game. I'm not trying to write it off before giving it a chance, but it's got me a little edgy.

Edit: Reading this on wiki is really not helping: "Yoshio Sakamoto confirmed that Other M will feature story progression in the same manner as Metroid Fusion." Other quotes I'm seeing make it sound a lot like Fusion in a not-too-good way. I'm getting the feel that the exploration will be limited to areas instead of just plunking you down on a planet and saying "have at'er." Although if they did a lot more like that one bit in Fusion where, after a really complex piece of sequence breaking (it was present in the game, just not much), Adam was like "how the fuck did you get there?" That would be a bit fun. A plot that evolved around your sequence breaking would be a bit cool. I doubt they'll do it though.

Hmm, had a quick look around, still no sign of the trailer.

Did find this hands on review though.

Reviewer seems to like it, although I have to admit I'm not so impressed by those dialogue snippets he quoted. Still, sounds like it'll be a solid game, and hopefully it won't end up too linear.

I don't suppose you could clarify? Because right now this post just sounds like the vaguest bit of naysaying pessimism I've heard in recent memory.

Keep in mind that Team Ninja has not handled a Metroid game before; of course it's going to be different.

[edit] By "vague", I mean your entire post consists of "It might be different and I don't trust them because I think they'll make it different; It would be just terrible if they made it different."

That.... doesn't sound like what I posted at all. I raised pretty specific concerns, namely heavier plot dialogue interfering with sequence breaking, exploration, and subtle horror of isolation that are a major part of what Metroid is. I also suggested that some of the stuff being said made it sound like it will play more like Fusion, which was pretty so-so as a Metroid game. Additionally, I was concerned about the game's combat-focus for pretty much the same reason.

I also said that what I'm reading gives me the feel that exploration will be limited to specific areas instead of being entirely open-ended. I think why this is a negative thing is pretty self-evident.

If that's not specific enough, I'm not really sure what you want from me, as the game isn't out yet, and all I really have to go on are trailers and vague statements from the developer. Thanks for reducing everything I said to "they changed it now it sucks" though. I guess it's a lot simpler?

There's nothing wrong with making it different - Metroid Prime was different, and it was awesome. It's taking away the things that make it unique and good that I take issue with.

However, I'm not saying that they're doing this, so there's no point in arguing that matter yet. I'm just saying that the way it's being presented is making me leery.

Edit: Oh, and I pointed out a very specific interface issue right off the bat.

Noncon and I are on opposing ends. He thinks it's going to be awful, I'm cautiously optimistic that new Team Ninja isn't going to be nearly as boob-jiggly awfultastic as before.

The fact that her military outfit looks respectable without showing tons of cleavage shows Samus Aran to be very tough but also really, really cute. It's one step in the maturely handling the subject direction and away from the Maturely handling the subject. Plus Team Ninja's pretty much entirely new since Itigaki left and half of the team quit and sued Tecmo.

Noncon's not convinced Team Ninja learned their lesson from last time, if Ninja Gaiden "Sexaxis" and DOA Paradise are to be remembered.

Team ninja is not really a "1 note" kind of team. They certainly have a general direction they go trough, but c'mon...

So far what i got from Another M is that it seems to be a more personal story about Samus and her Inner Feelings. The Zero Suit stuff doesn't botter me, because unless she is in action she doesn't need her Varia suit... so, it does make sense to have her around a bit more in "normal" clothing.

I'm glad they are trying to explore a new dimension of the character of Samus, instead of just shaping a new chapter in the Metroid book... they can fail, but i would bet if they do, they will do it on poor execution or making the work feel "disconnected" from the rest of the series. But not by any "oversexualization"

Retro was also the one who came up with the Zero Suit, and they made Metroid Prime.

Sooooooo....

I think we would probably have gotten in better sync if our conversation wasn't limited to a hundred and fourty letters minus our respective names and an @ symbol.

Cause I mostly agree - their writing hasn't been anything to jump and wave a club around about, but this seems like they're at least trying. Even if it isn't Mass Effect 2 it certainly won't be Bayonetta, and nobody really checks out Metroid for the story.

Twitter is kind of convenient though.
 

Which is why I'd really rather not have Metroid changed from the very basic, non-intrusive story that it normally has, but if it is changed from that, I'd really like it to be done by someone I know can write. Instead, a company that can't write are the ones deciding that Metroid needs more writing. Thus my gripe. Don't make me watch Samus talk if you can't write decent dialogue and some such...

But yeah. Dammit Twitter.

Fair enough!
 

Bit late for that - Metroid Fusion threw textboxes at you every five minutes and pretty much shit the worldess dialog I loved so much.

At least Zero Mission went back to basics and ruled because of it.

I find it ironic that people are worried about Metroid when Retro did something entirely new with Metroid after such a long time of NO M games.

And let's be reasonable, Itagaki is no longer a part of Team Ninja. While that was known for "OMGBOOOOOBS!" while he was around, perhaps even Team Ninja wanted to take a new direction after so much work on the DoA and Gaiden series.

This year has killed me for being excited for stuff.
 

That's... not really irony. One company managed to do something new with a franchise and do well. There really isn't any reason to think that Team Ninja will be able to do the same, since Metroid is an entirely different genre than what they've been making, and one of the things they plan on doing to the series, focusing more on the writing, is something they aren't exactly known for. Being skeptical is a pretty fair reaction.

1. They put six-axis boobie controls into a game after he left. They also made Dead or Alive Paradise after he left.

2. I don't think anyone has seriously assumed that they're going to kill Metroid with fanservice.

It is negative truth
 

Someone hasn't heard about the Negative One Suit!

Just out of curiousity I did a google search for 'Samus' and 'Team Ninja'. I'm sure you can guess the sort of thing that came up.

Oh well, here is a picture of Samus kicking a pirate in the face.

Oh please..... i had to search for was "Samus" and i got Bikini Samus, Zombie samus and Zelda Making out with Samus while peach watches within the first 5 pages.

And regarding her current Suit.. are these representations of her older suits accurate?

http://gamerlimit.com/wp-content/upl...amus_years.jpg

Actually, it is. Retro had no track record whatsoever and yet they've gone on to build the Metroid franchise into a strong first person platformer. Nintendo watched over them but at the very least, Retro was able to invigorate new life into the franchise.

Touche. They won't kill it but maybe they can get to the woman behind the power suit without overstereotyping.

*suddenly has flashbacks of the Ninja Gaiden 2 commercial in Japan...*

Yeah...

Uh, what?

The Zero Suit is named after Metroid Zero Mission, which was made by Nintendo R&D 1, aka Sakamoto's team. The Zero Suit was then inserted into Prime 2 and 3 because Nintendo has been trying to nail out Samus' design since then. Retro had nothing to do with that.

Ohh, that's right, for some reason I always thought Metroid Prime 2 released before Zero Mission. I thought the ending with Samus shedding her armor in front of the Lumoth was the first appearance of the ZS.

...Goddamn that was dumb. "Duhurrr Zero suit first showed up in a game that isn't Zero Mission."
Retro also took the entire Metroid franchise in a complete different direction.

Team Ninja is aping old school side-scrolling with first-person perspective gameplay. Retro at least did something entirely different that many fans chided them for early on. Before they found it it was, you know, perfect.

Plus Team Ninja kinda has a bad rep anyway.

Irony is the buzzword of the internet.
 

One company pulling it off does not mean that a completely different company is just as likely to do the same. Even if it did, that does not make it IRONIC.

Let's look at the situation that I'm describing:

A company with no track record makes a good game.

A company with a bad record pulls out a game that awes fans, with a character that they're used to objectifying.

The irony comes more or less from the fact that they're doing something outside of their zone with a company that's just about as bad as Disney when we're discussing IP.

If that's not situational irony (and a ballsy move on Nintendo's part) then I don't know what else could be crazy about this team up.

I rather like that Other M is focusing on some of Samus' more physical talents (like kicking pirates in the face) as it fleshes out the fact that she's not just some cyborg with a gun-arm and a bitchin' suit. She's a superhuman athlete with a gun-arm and a bitchin suit.

Also, I have to say that (minus certain parts of Prime 3) I rather enjoyed the direction Retro took with the Prime series, and I think I like the idea of melding 2d AND FPS action into one. The problem is going to be, as several others have put it, how they pull off the writing, dialogue, and story progression.

Plot in Metroid has always (barring Fusion and the more linear parts of Zero Mission, for those of you who did not sequence break the hell out of that game) been a background thing. You have a general idea of what's going on at all times, where you need to go, what powerups you need to get there, etc. Fusion was annoying because it was fucking gated from the start. You had to take orders from a goddamn computer EVERY TIME you entered a new sector through the front door. For those of you with the patience to shinespark your way to the bonus cutscene where Adam goes How the Hell did you do that?, you had to backtrack all the way back to that area and go through it again ANYWAY. I actually LIKED Fusion as a game (mainly for the SA-X sequences, those fucking had my heart racing), but the linearity was terrible.

Three of those are the basic power suit, just the art's slowly shifted over the years. The middle one's the Varia suit, and the one on the far right is the Fusion suit from (surprise!) Metroid Fusion.

I find it kind of strange that Samus' power suit has gotten more feminine over the years. It seems like a really odd and unnecessary shift.

Like, if she's in that suit, how the hell thin is her waist?

So okay you look at those suits and you see the first one, and it's totally androgynous. Then the middle one you look at the waist and thighs and go "Huh...looks kinda feminine," then the Fusion Suit looks a damn bit like they padded out her breasts and thighs and calf muscles. I guess it kinda makes sense since it's all biological/technological now what with her Metroid status, but...still.

The cynical answer would be that they no longer need to conceal her gender.

Power suit's always had a bit of an hourgass shape, especially the Varia Suit.

It's because the torso is bulky and then it has heavy armour on the legs. Some art exaggerates it a bit more.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...troidSamus.gif

But once again, it's hardly anything new.

Besides, considering all the acrobatic stuff she does in that suit (not counting the morph ball), a bulky suit likely wouldn't fly.

The Varia suit, well, it's the Varia suit. I'm not sure what purpose the Shoulders of Doom or the massive hip plates serve (temperature regulation maybe?), but you can bet there'd be hell to pay if they were removed from the design. :P

Varia suit is in fact Barrier suit mistranslated (You can guess what the massive hip plates are for).

Fun fact: Chôzo (彫像) means "statue", not the people represented, which is reffered by "bird people".

And it's been leaked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFmzH52YrCk

Watch it before Nintendo pulls it.

Ah, so it's just a reenactment of the mother brain battle. Pity, I was hoping for a second showdown.

I just dislike the waist, since it makes it look like she's about as big around at the waist as my thigh.

Did I mention I'm really thin?

Mi-mi-mirakuru Mikarun-run.
 

Team Ninja: "You know what Samus really needs? A magical girl transformation sequence! Fuuuuuck yeaaaaaah."

yeah i too hate this stupid sexualisation that only popped up post-super met-

http://www.metroid-database.com/inde...sm&p=interview

Sakamoto: *laughs*

Also:

It's also fun to make fun of YOU.
 

Oh yes I remember where I said that- Wait, no I don't. I was just making fun of a trailer, on account of its fun to make fun of trailers.

Cause you know how well *that's* been defined.
 

THE ZERO SUIT IN BRAWL CHEAPENS HER CHARACTER :( :( :(

I mean, they could at least have put the metroid from Super Metroid in instead of the same character twice...

Mo' like Team Titties amirite?
 

You can trace an undercurrent of stupid sexualization all the way back to "Justin Bailey" but at least so far it's an undercurrent.

I liked the Zero Suit segment in Zero Mission and the Brawl incarnation evoked that, so I liked it. There are people who couldn't get past the fact that it's a form-fitting catsuit and I can't just straight up tell them they're wrong.

Team Ninja has a reputation for two things: legitimately difficult games (Gaiden) and "Every man loves tits."

But good news, everyone! This guy is in control of scripting.

"One of my goals is to present Samus as an appealing human character, and that involves explaining a little bit about what happened in her past as well as the characters that influenced her. The story will play a big part."

He never comes out and says so but I'm pretty sure that the whole story thing is going to be his bag, and he's been with Metroid since the beginning.

My retort wasn't specifically directed at you, but rather at the general opinion that "Team Ninja is whoring out Samus" when Sakamoto himself is probably to blame for that.

Regarding that 2D-3D switch controversy back on the first page before we started talking about how hot Samus is, Shadow Complex had something similar and it being "Controid", no one seemed to have much of a problem with it and most people seemed to like it.

EDIT: Also they totally padded out that 100 Classic Book Collection with like twenty Shakespeare plays, AND included Call of the Wild and White Fang for Jack London but no Sea Wolf. I also see neither Dracula OR Journey to the Center of the Earth. Quite the farce indeed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Cla...ook_Collection

I have nothing to contribute to this thread but that is one of the most fucking awful collections of books I have ever seen. Ho shit- are Nintendo up Dickens ass or what?

The six hundred stories that Dickens' wrote about young London rapscallions with strife-filled lives ending with heart-warming endings never fail to bring a tear to the eye of any Nintendo executive.

In the true ending of Christmas Carol, Scrooge hangs himself.
 

Hey, to be fair he also wrote one about an old, capitalistic dickbag that nobody liked being haunted.

The perspective shift is what I'm actually worried about, specially dictated by the Wiimote.

Did'ja play Super Paper Mario? I'm expecting it to work like Tippi, where it just waits until the remote sees the sensor bar and switches to pointer mode. Since pointer mode is the most reliable function of the remote, I'm not worried.

I am worried about not being able to move or dodge when in first-person. I don't like the idea of having to take damage because I need to fire a missile but there's more than one baddie around. I'm also worried about the auto-targeting, just because when auto-targeting goes wrong, it goes wrong. It probably won't go wrong, though. Probably.

Murphy's law makes me think otherwise. But if Ninja and Nintendo are known for, it's that controls work rather well.

I...have no idea what she's talking about. I think that was the most ambiguous trailer I've seen in ages.

But holy shit that's some good direction and voice acting.

Character Development? In MY Metroid?

EDIT: Also, my post count now matches my Pokedex number.

What the hell was that about? The Nintendo Power comic with Samus being an orphan of a space pirate attack and raised by the Chozo was a better backstory than whatever this is (unless its like her emo teenage bounty hunting years).

Also eagerly awaiting the day they announce the English release name, since "Other M" is idiotic. Unless they're just going to go with that, in which case I can safely say I don't know what they're doing over there.

This appears to be what happens when you try to add a backstory to something which heretofore has basically been "fight space pirates, save ancient civilization, kill Metroid, save universe, repeat".

Actually, it's her "emo teenager working for the Galactic Federation years", but yeah, except that the actual gameplay will take place between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion (assuming that there are no flashback segments). She's still an orphan raised by bird people, given that nothing in any of the materials has suggested that her backstory is going to be changed in any way. It's just going to be expanded upon.

http://media.strategywiki.org/images...NES_Ending.png
So, Other M, maybe.

Yeeeeaaaaaaaaah, you're kinda goin a bit crazy there Magus. They've given us so little information saying Other M means Metroid is ruined foreverhttp://images.wikia.com/transformers...ed_forever.jpg is jumping the gun pretty hard.

The JPN dub is better than the English one: http://www.metroid.jp/

Too bad the actual writing sucks balls.

Not disagreeing.

EDIT: Well, for what little has been released anyway.

Oh c'mon you guys are going way too hard on the writing here...

Sure, you can SEE they are pushing very very hard for a "this is a deep personal story" angle here, but the effort itself is totally valid, and considering all the variables surrounding this title, i think we should be glad they are going for a more "Personal Drama" angle...

Samus could easily be another One liner spouting cardboard cutout, they seem to be at least giving it a honest try to give her another dimension, i would wait a little longer before going after the writing

Trailer in a nutshell: "I was young. But that was a long time ago...when I was young. And a child. And youthful. I was so young then."

distant gaze, cut to logo

"Mother. Time to go!

I don't know about you guys, but I never cared about Samus. She always felt bland and nothing more than an avatar for you to use and explore this world with. Considering I never cared for games with little sense of direction, Metroid and Super Metroid never really managed to catch my attention the way it seemed to do with everyone else (On that note I don't get all the hatred for Fusion just because it couldn't be sequence-broken like the others, but w/e). Then Metroid Prime (At least I think Prime did it first >.>) brought the concept of reading all the lore and backstory of the planet gradually as you explored to the game, and kept me interested enough to finish the game.

Other M is trying to make Samus, not her environment, the rich experience this time around. I'll have faith in them, and will probably enjoy the game regardless because I'm a sucker for the Metroid series after Prime.

Then again, I only just started Prime 2 last week, so I'm probably not a big enough Metroid nerd to have an opinion here :P

You're basing this analysis on a pair of trailers and a few minutes of leaked opening-cutscene gametime. By this logic, anyone who says a snappy one-liner or something similar pre/post-asskicking is a one-liner spouting cardboard cutout.

Don't add story if the story is going to suck.
 

One liners are objectively terrible writing. The only time they work is when the person writing is doing it with an intent of cheesy terribleness. Hell, this is a terrible one liner even compared with other one liners, and that's how the game starts. If that's what their idea of good writing is, why should we have any hope that it will improve later on?