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Astral Harmony 05-08-2010 01:02 AM

Pokemon Umbral Discussion 18: I'm Not Gonna Raichu a Love Song
 
I had a brain fart thinking up a title, so leave me alone.

Oh, and here's something bizarre that will make your eyeballs implode:

http://www.motifake.com/demotivation...1240101989.jpg

I think that chick is dressed like a Grumpig. Not sure.

Anyways, that's all I have for now. I've still gotta lotta other stuff to do, including work on that ginormous database. If I saw some questions, I'm afraid I don't remember them so please post 'em again if you really care to have 'em answered. I'll check back every now and again.

Dracorion 05-08-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dracorion
With regards to the Love Hotel mission, can I at least use Enmakki to make Pierce aware of the fact that something is terribly wrong and he's sharing a dream with everyone? Maybe even reveal that it's a Ruin General doing it. Because, see, I'm trying to sell this whole thing about Enmakki being a powerful telepath, and screwin' up a Ruin General's plans a little bit is a great way to show that.

That's mine. (Hey Gem, how is that not excessively stupid or overpowered?)

Menarker had one, but I think it's been rendered null by the edit in his RP post, so I'm not including it here.

And I think that's it.

EDIT: It looks more like a Miltank to me.

Menarker 05-08-2010 01:10 AM

And that hulking brute behind the perverted trainer looks like a Machamp of sort, with the 4 arms and the head-ridges.

Dracorion 05-08-2010 01:12 AM

Bet you can't guess what those heads on the ground are.

I already know.

DanteFalcon 05-08-2010 01:13 AM

I have to agree with the dream-world mission. Otherwise I have to find someway to work his backstory into his sidequest (once I actually settle on what his sidequest should be.....)

Astral Harmony 05-08-2010 01:33 AM

Oh, you're right. That is a Miltank. Good grief, I'm dumb. So adding Miltank genes to create a Miltank Pokebrid will increase her bust size...I smell a ridiculous character!

Fine, I approve of Enmekki being a jealous emo and fucking up Marionata's plans only because he wants Pierce's fragile psyche all to himself.

And I'm going to ruin it for everyone else: those three heads at ground level are a Dugtrio.

Gimme some time and I'll type up an RP post.

Dracorion 05-08-2010 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1037877)
Oh, you're right. That is a Miltank. Good grief, I'm dumb. So adding Miltank genes to create a Miltank Pokebrid will increase her bust size...I smell a ridiculous character!

This can only go very very right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1037877)
Fine, I approve of Enmekki being a jealous emo and fucking up Marionata's plans only because he wants Pierce's fragile psyche all to himself.

All the pokeymanz want a piece of Pierce's ass. But yeah, Enmakki gets all riled up when someone messes with his plans and fucks around with Pierce's head.

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1037877)
And I'm going to ruin it for everyone else: those three heads at ground level are a Dugtrio.

Goddamnit AB, I wanted to spoil it!

Geminex 05-08-2010 02:14 AM

Well yeah, the dugtrio was obvious. As was the Machamp. As was the miltank.

...

That's pretty much how Impact sees the entire pokemon world.

Astral Harmony 05-08-2010 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dracorion (Post 1037880)
This can only go very very right.

Pierce: "Damn, I'm taking a real beating here!"
Renny: "Pierce, go use Drink Milk!"
Pierce: "Don't mind if I do! Wheee!"
Miltank Pokebrid: "Agh! Get away from me, you sicko!"

And that's when Armored Bishoujo gets banned from Nuklear Power.

EDIT 1: Damn...I just made Kirie one of the most frightening characters ever.

Oh, and here's a new rule that just came up. I'm telling you, it's all on the fly: Grass type Pokemon are affected by sleep differently than other types. When there is natural sunlight or when Sunny Day is in effect, a Grass type Pokemon will wake up automatically at the end of the turn. However, during the hours of darkness or inside structures that do not permit light, Grass type Pokemon will not wake up on their own. You must awaken them manually.

Geminex 05-08-2010 05:18 AM

I'm still hesitant whether to go for Kirie or Dinner in terms of relationships...

Ok, cool. Makes sense.

I've also been thinking: Could we make it standard for trainers to be able to use only one pokemon in battle? And when they go battle master or legion mage, they get to use one pokemon and themselves, always? Renny's breeder would have more powerful pokemon, but only get to use one? Impact's Infernal Orator (cause screw you, that's what I'm naming his class) would also be fighting alone, but, again, be pretty powerful?

Astral Harmony 05-08-2010 05:45 AM

Sure, I'll bite that. After Renny's sidequest, I'll make that a rule. It'll make battles easier to manage, anyways.

EDIT 1: And if that's how Impact always sees the world, I think he's due for a urinalysis. Guy's gotta be taking absinthe, shrooms, acid, and mixes it all into a special beverage that he calls the "Exotic Vacation To Parts Unknown".

Can you imagine Impact like that? He just goes fuckin' apeshit and tries to score with Miltanks because they all look like outrageously busty pink-haired females to him?

Geminex 05-08-2010 06:38 AM

Ok... we can deal with this. It's annoying, but it's fixable. What to do.

Let's prioritise targets:

1: Artillery; Mine Launcher; Weakened cannon
2: Missile Racks, Flamethrower
3: Last cannon

Artillery because it deals huge damage, Mine Layer because it'll get really, really annoying if we don't, weakened cannon because we've already started the job.

Now, the question is, what to do, exactly? We could go with the standard method, which would be to kill one part after another. That'd raise his heat level step-by-step, as well as decreasing his ability to deal damage the same way.

Alternately, we pick a certain number of parts, try to weaken those parts as much as we can, and then land finishing blows on three or four parts in one turn. As we weaken them, they'll be less accurate, so we would be taking less damage. Also, his heat level would only rise slowly until we destroy all of them, when it'll probably spike.

He has auto-repair, of course, but thing is, we'll probably deal reparable damage anyway...

And what're the mechanical noises? Would the bastard be manufacturing a minion?

Edit:
Oh, and no, it's less the "OMG pokemon are people, must have sex with them" and more the "This is so very fucked" aspect of that picture that Impact sees.

Also, will Ho-oh force-deploy for Shizuka?


Edit2: Order of battle.
Ok... damn, I'm tired. I'll try to make this coherent. Posting while tired is like my drunk posting. Only less alcohol and more mind working in strange and unusual ways. See how unusual? Here, I'll show you.

Both testament drives: Hit Mine Layer
Impact: Full restore, attack Artillery (He has a lot of defense and HP, he'll survive a few mines. Rachel can be on standby to revive, should it become necessary)
Rachel: (Does she have any force-deployers left? I don't think so, but too tired to check)
Shizuka's Ho-Oh: I'm assuming the bastard force-deploys, so hit Artillery with a non-fire attack. I assume Ho-Oh has one.
Shizuka personal: Use Signature Technique, Apple... Cutter? The single-target high-damage one, but not applesauce. The weaker one. On Artillery.
Dormond: Retreat, make room. Support NPCs can still use one item/turn, even if they're retreated, right? I thought they could last mission... Anyway, if that's the case, maybe take care of Pierce's Nagrai.
Kiyomi's Regigigas: Giga Impact on Artillery. Go before Impact.
Kiyomi: I'm having Rachel retreat as well as Dormond, so there should be room for both her and Shizuka. Use Raging Raider, to hit (I hope) Artillery, Mine Layer and Port cannon. Would that work, AB?
Mika: Have Mewthree hit the Artillery
Rayleen: Have Rayquaza hit the Artillery
Pierce Personal: Hit Starboard Missile Rack
Pierce: Nagrai should get revived in time, I hope, have it hit Starboard Missile Rack
Charlotte Personal: Starboard Missile Rack
Charlotte: Wait for it, wait for it... Starboard missile rack

That seem good? It should weaken quite a bit of stuff, next turn we can use signature sequences and testament drives to finish them off.

...

I just really, really hope that Lexhur doesn't have a "Heal all damage" signature technique. I would hate that. So much. AB, does he have such a technique?

Menarker 05-08-2010 08:54 AM

Interesting post... the plot thickens...

AB: Regarding Cresselia's gluttony attack, which put all the pokemons to sleep, I don't suppose that she would have been effected by Umbreon? Umbreon's ability force inflicts a status effect whenever it get hit by one. If Umbreon is burned, the opposing pokemon gets burned. Sleep? The pokemon that inflicted it is asleep. I know it's The Light herself, but I'm just asking in case it was just an oversight.

Also, Matthias/Lola seems to be completely uneffected. Intentional?

Geminex 05-08-2010 09:01 AM

Isn't the light paradigm shifted? As such, isn't it immune to status?

Menarker 05-08-2010 09:02 AM

I'd imagine so, but just asking. Also doesn't answer the second question...

Meanwhile... Plotting how best to continue from here...

EDIT: AB, what weapon type did Kirie finish her turn off with? (It looked like she finished with a fighting type weapon since she killed the Dark last.) Also, can she do a weapon change and attack on the same turn?

Would it be possible for Matthias to use Thief to steal one of those items like Supreme Upgrade or Supreme Restore off of Cressilia (If she has any left) and perhaps swipe any remaining ones off of the Dark?



At least the group isn't really in any real danger, since Harriette still has all her pokemon. ^^;

Ok, overall plan...


Shaymin hits Cresselia with Testament Drive.

Last item used to revive Whitney! Paradigm Shift! Black Hole Cresselia! Heavy damage and she won't be able to summon any pokemon if they get knocked out (especially if she would be knocked out by this point, they can't go rogue until she comes back.)

Kirie uses Endless Waltz with grass typed weapon on Fathocanth. Either the super powered Quad damage or the OHKO will knock it out.
Endless Waltz: Kirie focuses all of her attention on a single opponent, something that said opponent would never wish for. More like a modification of Tsubasa's Wicked Dance using Weapon Shift, Endless Waltz has pretty much the same effects.

Dominic summons Butterfree. Butterfree uses Shadow Ball on Shedninja. ONE HIT KO! (Shedninja is fixed at 1 hitpoint and ghost type is one of the un-guarded weakpoints)

Renny's Mollesk gets Forced-Summoned!

Lola uses Heal Bell on Harriette and Entei (Matthias instead if he was put to sleep).

Moon and Evangaleen recall their pokemons, give them a breather, perhaps try to wake them up. Harriette summons Kangaskhan and Vespiquen to take their place.

Kangaskhan use Crunch on Espeon. Super Effective! 10% chance of lowering defence stat 1 stage.

Vespiquen use Attack Order on Espeon. STAB Super Effective. High Critical Hit chance!

Harriette uses Water Bullets on Claydol. Super Effective!

Entei focuses Lava Plume on Volbeat. STAB Super Effective!


And now two options...
Option 1: If AB allows for stealing items off of Cresselia...
Matthias steals Supreme Upgrade and uses it on Renny's Mollesk. Mollesk's Simple ability pumps it up to a full +6 boost to ALL STATS! (Although it's speed and special attack will still be crap crap crap crap crap.) It becomes nigh impossible to damage! (To clarify, in the video games, Groudon with high attack power and STAB earthquake only can deal 1/3 max hitpoints in damage to a Shuckle of the same level with unboosted stats, which only has a base hitpoint stat of 20. Mollesk has 118!)
Mollesk: "Rock Falls, Everybody Dies. RP over" (KIDDING) Rock Slide on Ledian and Sableye due to absurdly boosted power.

Option 2: If AB doesn't allow for that...
Matthias poke-sync attacks Arbok or Claydol with that multiple status affliction stuff. :3

Mollesk use Follow Me on Whitney to protect her for another turn. REALLY high stamina and defence should be useful here. ^^ (Alteranatively, I might use Rock Slide on Ledian and another bug pokemon due to quad damage on Ledian and Super Effective damage on another)

Dracorion 05-08-2010 11:38 AM

Kirie is now Number Two on the list of "Bitches Pierce needs to Fight", just below Shizuka. Screw that, he's gonna take 'em both on at the same time! Would the optional PVP mission include fighting NPCs? Because fuck dueling Impact, Pierce is going for the Kimonos.

Lexhur keeps swinging back and forth between my liking him and hating him. Now I know why AB won't let us ride him: that would redefine the term "carnage".

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Originally Posted by Geminex (Post 1037915)
Alternately, we pick a certain number of parts, try to weaken those parts as much as we can, and then land finishing blows on three or four parts in one turn. As we weaken them, they'll be less accurate, so we would be taking less damage. Also, his heat level would only rise slowly until we destroy all of them, when it'll probably spike.

This one, let's do this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geminex (Post 1037915)
And what're the mechanical noises? Would the bastard be manufacturing a minion?

Or perhaps charging his laser.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geminex (Post 1037915)
Both testament drives: Hit Mine Layer
Impact: Full restore, attack Artillery (He has a lot of defense and HP, he'll survive a few mines. Rachel can be on standby to revive, should it become necessary)
Rachel: (Does she have any force-deployers left? I don't think so, but too tired to check)
Shizuka's Ho-Oh: I'm assuming the bastard force-deploys, so hit Artillery with a non-fire attack. I assume Ho-Oh has one.
Shizuka personal: Use Signature Technique, Apple... Cutter? The single-target high-damage one, but not applesauce. The weaker one. On Artillery.
Dormond: Retreat, make room. Support NPCs can still use one item/turn, even if they're retreated, right? I thought they could last mission... Anyway, if that's the case, maybe take care of Pierce's Nagrai.
Kiyomi's Regigigas: Giga Impact on Artillery. Go before Impact.
Kiyomi: I'm having Rachel retreat as well as Dormond, so there should be room for both her and Shizuka. Use Raging Raider, to hit (I hope) Artillery, Mine Layer and Port cannon. Would that work, AB?
Mika: Have Mewthree hit the Artillery
Rayleen: Have Rayquaza hit the Artillery
Pierce Personal: Hit Starboard Missile Rack
Pierce: Nagrai should get revived in time, I hope, have it hit Starboard Missile Rack
Charlotte Personal: Starboard Missile Rack
Charlotte: Wait for it, wait for it... Starboard missile rack

That seem good? It should weaken quite a bit of stuff, next turn we can use signature sequences and testament drives to finish them off.

Pierce can use a Max Revive to restore Nagarai. If your purpose is to have Regigigas soak up mines for Impact, you might wanna have Dormond heal it up instead. If not, then have it use Hyper Beam. Ho-Oh has Sky Attack, but Lexhur resists it so you're better off using something like Sacred Fire which at least deals 1x damage.

Since at this stage of the fight we're going to be taking a lot of hits from every direction, you might wanna pull someone back next turn and free up Mika so she can use her Paradigm Break. Hey AB, does Paradigm Break turn all incoming damage into healing for everyone, or just Mika?

You might wanna have Nagarai try to Overload the Fire Absorber, that should neutralize the Flamethrower (with Drizzle and Thunder, I'm hoping it'll be easy). Of course, we don't have any allies left weak to fire (since you're pulling Rachel and Dormond back) so it might not be necessary. You might want to revive Allegion turn after next to use Thunder Crush on the Dragon Absorber that I think Lexhur is manufacturing.

Hey AB, can Trainers using Trainer Attack trip mines? Because I wouldn't put it past you.

I might have Pierce trip one on purpose. I'm serious. I'm already coming up with logical reasons to justify it.

Can Support NPCs use non-healing support items like, I dunno, X-Attack? Because then I think maybe have Rachel heal Buck, and Dormond buff someone's stats.

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1037907)
Sure, I'll bite that. After Renny's sidequest, I'll make that a rule. It'll make battles easier to manage, anyways.

So, what, Geminex just bats his eyes and you bend over? No, don't ask the rest of us what we think!

Can we at least get to use two pokemon at a time for smaller battles?

Also, keep in mind that while, yes, everyone having one pokemon at a time would make battles easier to manage, it would also make them take twice as long.
And, I dunno, it seems to me like battles take long enough now that you already need to throw in crap like Kirie going Super Saiyan and slaughtering a powerful boss just to speed things up.

Menarker 05-08-2010 12:45 PM

Plus, double battles encourage more creativity in how one organize their teams. Personally would think that in smaller battles or when by themselves, 2 pokemon would be nice. But for big stuff, yeah, one pokemon perhaps.

Astral Harmony 05-08-2010 03:50 PM

Christ, what's with all the questions? Urgh...

@ Geminex: Yes, Ho-Oh will force-deploy.

If a character retreated, they can't do nuffin.

Yes, you can use Raging Raider that way.

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@ Menarker: The Light (as well as all Pokebrids) is immune to stuff like that in Paradigm Shift.

And that was an oversight, missing Lola and Matthias. You've got more characters than I realized.

Basically, if I say something affects everyone, just assume that it does indeed affect everyone except certain attacks that I can't allow to affect because it'd fuckin' wipe out the enemy.

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@ Menarker 2: Kirie can Weapon Shift on the fly in less than a second, making her able to transform her weapon into something that's always affected. She'll always start her action with a bigass sword and end it with a bigass sword. She'll Weapon Shift as necessary to affect the enemy.

No, Matthias cannot Thief items from The Light. However, when this mission is over and the DSS comes out, I'll start setting up enemies with held items (including items they cannot normally use by holding it) so Matthias can get some use out of those items.

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@ Dracorian: Oh yeah, you're definitely going to fight some NPCs in the arena.

Paradigm Break spreads out the healing.

Sure, go ahead and have Pierce throw that stick.

Yes, you can have the Medical Specialists use X-Attacks 'n' shit.

Yes, you can use two Pokemon when it's in smaller battles.

I dunno, I'll just set the rules as battles start.

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To cover for Geminex's feelings of loneliness about not being able to put anything in his second slot when battles all for two per character, I've already gone and created the Engineer Specialty. Engineers will be able to create stuff on the fly that will supplment your battles, from Shield Generators to Turrets to Evoliths. Anyone of those would be great for Impact since he doesn't like Pokemon.

And since it's going to come up eventually, I'll talk about them briefly: Evoliths are a scientific breakthrough in finding new purposes for Evolution Stones. By using their massive stores of energy in conjunction with a metal called Evolite that has a strong connection with Evolution Stones in general, one could create an autonomous golem that fights alongside its maker. Evoliths have similar powers to the Evolution Stones that power them, and they are named after said stones. Sun Stones create Sun Evoliths that have healing powers and can cast a large variety of buffs. Leaf Stones result in Leaf Evoliths that can use a variety of powerful grass type attacks. Moon Stones will give you a Moon Evolith that deals with instant death and status effects and so on and so forth.

Because Evolution Stones are pretty common in Honmyr and Evoliths are a hell of a lot easier to make than catching and training a Pokemon, Evoliths make excellent shock troops and are quite popular for those who really don't want anything to do with Pokemon, like Impact. They don't need love. They don't need food. They don't need sleep. They just need a target.

Dracorion 05-08-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1037997)
If a character retreated, they can't do nuffin.

That's retarded.

And it sucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1037997)
Sure, go ahead and have Pierce throw that stick.

What, so he throws it once and then loses his ability to attack for the rest of the fight? I mean, sure, he can pull out his knife and try to shank Lexhur, but I think Lexhur'd win that fight. I think I'd rather have him blow himself up. Still trying to figure out why Pierce would blow himself up, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1037997)
Evolith junk

I wonder how Impact would feel about them. I mean, they're not really pokemon, but they're intimately related.

Besides, who gives a crap if Geminex is feeling lonely? He gets to go full demon as soon as the rest of us go half-demon. And he gets mind control, so he can have all the bitches he wants.

So yeah, not sure he really needs Evoliths.

For PVP's sake, I'm sure we can agree to have trainers use only one pokemon when they're going up against Slayers.

Geminex 05-08-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

To cover for Geminex's feelings of loneliness about not being able to put anything in his second slot when battles all for two per character, I've already gone and created the Engineer Specialty. Engineers will be able to create stuff on the fly that will supplment your battles, from Shield Generators to Turrets to Evoliths. Anyone of those would be great for Impact since he doesn't like Pokemon.
But I've already got my three upgrades planned out. Engineer seems interesting, but even when everyone's using two pokemon, his full-demon stats should be enough to let him keep up with the rest of the team.

Evoliths seem... fun.
They have potential.

I don't want to use Mika's healing technique, because I want our legendaries to die horribly. I want those testament drives.
That's also the reason why I'd send Regigigas in without healing it. If it takes the mine damage, it's definitely going down. And since Lexhur did kill it, that should create a testament drive.
...
Right?

Dracorion 05-08-2010 07:27 PM

It fucking should.

I imagine Matthias would get a kick out of Evoliths.

Astral Harmony 05-08-2010 07:35 PM

Yes, it'll arm a Testament Drive. Hell, Renny's side is getting Testament Drives even thought they're not even facing Lexhur.

DanteFalcon 05-08-2010 09:01 PM

Hmmmmm Evoliths have potential. I wonder......

Menarker 05-08-2010 09:03 PM

AB? Just so you know, (and I'm not hoping that the Dark comes back retroactively), Latias is a dragon/psychic type, not a dragon/flying like you described Latias's typing during its Testament Drive when it was used against the Dark. (Normally, that would make a difference since Dark types are immune to Psychic portion of it, but Kirie is such a bad ass anyhow that the Dark should stay dead. :3: )

AB: Will PACTA members or at least the Breeder class be able to use those enhanced healing/boost items like Supreme Restore or Supreme Upgrade? (or something equal to it if it's based on bad drugs or such. ^^; )

Anyhow, writing my post...

Geminex 05-08-2010 09:28 PM

Falcon, stop copying me. I said they had potential first. Get your own vaguely sinister comment.

And AB, when you mentioned the engineer class, what did you mean? That Impact should go engineer, or that an NPC would go engineer to fill his empty slot?

DanteFalcon 05-08-2010 09:39 PM

I have henceforth copyrighted

"Hmmmmm Evoliths have potential."

It is also retroactive. I demand you change your statement.

Bard The 5th LW 05-08-2010 10:17 PM

Do it, or Charlotte will somehow break your legs. And then you'll get sued in court for Copyright infringement.

Geminex 05-08-2010 10:25 PM

I'm sorry, Bard? Did you just take sides against me?
And there was me thinking you liked me...

Bard The 5th LW 05-08-2010 10:31 PM

I do. Enforcement just comes naturally to me. Dunno why. Just sorta like breakin' legs I suppose.

Geminex 05-08-2010 10:33 PM

Stick with me, and you'll get to break all the legs you could ever wish for!

Menarker 05-08-2010 10:38 PM

AB: A question. I recall that Matthias had prepared a Chesto Berry in case it was attacked by Darkrai's sleep attack. Does this mean that he woke up as soon as he was put to sleep and thus didn't get hit by the Dream Eater portion of Cresselia's attack?

EDIT: Still making my post. Taking a bit longer to do so.

DanteFalcon 05-08-2010 11:47 PM

See what Menarker just asked there. I should be asking. But that would imply I'm on top of things. Which I'm not. Which is why he asks it.

Geminex 05-09-2010 12:02 AM

I've gotta go, I'll make my post later. Drac, Bard, if you wanna post already:
Pierce should overload the fire absorber with Nagrai and hit the starboard missile rack himself
Charlotte should have her pokemon hit the starboard missile rack and use her shotgun on the mines

See ya soon!

Dracorion 05-09-2010 12:11 AM

Ah, the hell with it.

Pierce is going to tempt fate.

Y'know, I totally forgot that with Drizzle active, Charlotte's Buck should be feeling down.

The whole "weather affecting morale" thing, after all.

Shizuka's Ho-Oh might be too, when it force-deploys. Of course, I can't think of any logical reason why a silly little thing like the weather should bother Ho-Oh, a legendary. Y'know, beings that shape the world.

Menarker 05-09-2010 12:38 AM

Well, did my post at last. Changed a few things, but overall, hoping they go well.

Dante, just out of curiousity, are you having any problems or concerns with the battle setup so far? I kinda just realized that Matthias is just been given orders, being dictated to, and all that. Did you wanted to have any additional contribution, or are you fine with things as they are?

DanteFalcon 05-09-2010 09:33 AM

I do have different strategies but I prefer to let one person dictate tactics. I find when two people do often the team loses out because the strategy keeps changing. If you say something that I know can be improved on then I'll mention it.

Edit: I probably won't be using Venomoth's ability on the Arbok. The Arbok's Paradigm Shift is over thus I'd be taking out a moderately annoying snake pokemon. However I am tempted to switch to Castform and Fire Blast him. STAB with Sunny day....good stuff.

Menarker 05-09-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DanteFalcon (Post 1038110)
I do have different strategies but I prefer to let one person dictate tactics. I find when two people do often the team loses out because the strategy keeps changing. If you say something that I know can be improved on then I'll mention it.

Edit: I probably won't be using Venomoth's ability on the Arbok. The Arbok's Paradigm Shift is over thus I'd be taking out a moderately annoying snake pokemon. However I am tempted to switch to Castform and Fire Blast him. STAB with Sunny day....good stuff.

Alright, fair enough. What was your tactics going to be like anyhow, just for the sake of curiousity? ^^

Feel free to use the Fire Blast thing. Its a good idea. Of course, targeting Ledian or Volbeat would give you a STAB bonus on top of that, but Arbok pokebrid is a pretty serious threat. *Plus I rather he didn't try to use Haze*

Anyhow, yesturday, I had a weird little daydream while I was at work. Too hard for me to think of how to make a good omake out of it at this point. I'll think hard though...

Astral Harmony 05-09-2010 02:01 PM

I'm going to work pretty soon. I'll post in the RP this afternoon. The database is coming along well enough, though I'm still surprised at how large it's going to end up being. But that's what happens when we fill up these discussion threads.

Dracorion 05-09-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menarker (Post 1038032)
AB: Will PACTA members or at least the Breeder class be able to use those enhanced healing/boost items like Supreme Restore or Supreme Upgrade? (or something equal to it if it's based on bad drugs or such. ^^; )

I think it might be Engineer territory, that. I mean, I get that Breeder put extra special care in the pokemon through a strict diet of hugs and kisses and as a result their pokemon are all buffed up and with special moves 'n shit, but making advanced items? Yeah, seems more of a job for an Engineer.

And then, yeah, we should all be able to use 'em.

Bard The 5th LW 05-09-2010 07:58 PM

Posting. Gonna take Buck out for now, what with the rain thing.

Dracorion 05-09-2010 08:45 PM

Charlotte has the decency to warn Impact, but not Pierce?

Bitch.

Bard The 5th LW 05-09-2010 09:32 PM

Nagarai was already doing the same thing. She figured that he wouldn't notice one more blast of lightning surging through his bones and probably turning him into a vegetable.

Dracorion 05-09-2010 09:45 PM

Nagarai is aiming for an entirely different target!

Bard The 5th LW 05-09-2010 09:49 PM

Oh.

Geminex 05-09-2010 10:48 PM

Oh shush, Drac. A little bit of lightning never killed anyone. Or maybe it did, I don't know...

Oh, and Dantefalcon...
Wanna make a little deal?

DanteFalcon 05-09-2010 11:10 PM

Is this an out in the open deal or a not so open deal?

Astral Harmony 05-10-2010 01:44 AM

I'm back from work. Well, I've been back from work for a while but my Internet was down. My provider's Domain Name server crapped itself or something so I've been working on the Characters & Terminology portion of the four document database. There's still plenty of time to make a post so I'm going to.

On another note, ready to have your minds blown?

- I'm going to go ahead and upgrade your characters after Renny's mission to sort of "complete" your characters. Trainers'll get their sixth Pokemon, Slayers will be able to equip six weapons (2 small, 2 medium, 2 large) and will get a STAB bonus based on the armor they equip (that's still only three pieces, sorry)...I'm not sure what to do for the Pokebrids but there's still plenty of time to figure it out.

- Next, lemme tell you some things about those Specialties I keep mentioning but never really elaborate on: you PCs won't get 'em. They're NPC stuff and you'll decide which specialist is assigned to the appropriate Deployment Slot as part of the Deployment Slot System. There's four specialties. Shock Troopers are heavy duty combat specialists. Medics will provide item support. Snipers will provide attack support. Engineers will provide a variety of support. They'll be further discussed in the Battle System Tutorial document that will be provided after Renny's Sidequest.

- After Renny's Sidequest, the rules will be changed somewhat which I'll post about when I'm actually done creating the Battle System Tutorial document.

- Additional characters just might be generated after all the NPCs are sorted into Specialties. It could be to fill Specialties that don't have many characters in them, but it's most likely because I'm an outrageous pervert who thinks that there aren't enough pretty girls in this RP.

That is all.

Geminex 05-10-2010 02:31 AM

I'm not sure, but didn't slayers get 4 pieces of armor?

Other than that:
Awesome. Truly awesome. This is getting big. Hell, we could probably make money out of this.

Astral Harmony 05-10-2010 03:12 AM

Well, yes. You always have the Normal type assault rifle and Normal type armor, so you automatically get STAB for dishing out Normal type damage. But when would you ever deal Normal type attacks?

And you guys may hate me, but I'm going to go ahead and conclude the battle here. Keeping the fight going is just going to prolong what we all already know will happen, especially considering how Renny's and Impact's strategies are stomping the shit out of the enemy.

I'll just create a story post (I've already done the Ally Phases for both sides so you can get a feel of how awesome you all are) and then you can go back to the party. Since the party will likely last for one or two more days (Real time, not game. Only Latinos have parties that really last that long.)

Feel free to ask questions after the post (in-game and out) and I'll use the spare time I'll get from this to finish those damn documents. Hopefully I haven't annoyed the shit out of everyone with this. I mean, I know I have so let me present this:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...er88632661.jpg

Gotta wait until Christmas to unwrap your presents.

Dracorion 05-10-2010 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1038282)
And you guys may hate me, but I'm going to go ahead and conclude the battle here. Keeping the fight going is just going to prolong what we all already know will happen, especially considering how Renny's and Impact's strategies are stomping the shit out of the enemy.

I'll just create a story post (I've already done the Ally Phases for both sides so you can get a feel of how awesome you all are) and then you can go back to the party. Since the party will likely last for one or two more days (Real time, not game. Only Latinos have parties that really last that long.)

Feel free to ask questions after the post (in-game and out) and I'll use the spare time I'll get from this to finish those damn documents.

What?!

You son of a bitch, how fucking dare you end my battle like that?! I'm gonna shove your goddamn database up your a-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1038282)
Hopefully I haven't annoyed the shit out of everyone with this. I mean, I know I have so let me present this:

hotness

You're forgiven.

P.S.: If I recall correctly, and I do, Impact still owes Pierce a Dragon Slave.

P.P.S.:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo (Post 1038267)
I'm not sure what to do for the Pokebrids but there's still plenty of time to figure it out.

A third Pokeshift?

Anyway, I wonder. If Renny got a Trainter/Trainer dual-class, should Matthias get a Pokebrid/Pokebrid class? I mean, Dante said earlier he might want to go Pokebrid/Snagger, but I figure that's because he's not going to figure out how a Pokebrid/Pokebrid would work. Impact should get a Slayer/Slayer class, but he gets to go full demon so we'll call that dual-class.

So, how would a Pokebrid/Pokebrid work? Maybe they can take two forms at the same time, and have access to all the strengths and moves of both pokemon, but also all the weaknesses (God help anyone who chooses two forms that have quad weaknesses). Whatever, I don't know.

Also, AB, can you elaborate on Shock Troopers a bit?

Astral Harmony 05-10-2010 02:05 PM

A third DNA splice seems like a good upgrade.

I guess a Pokebrid/Pokebrid dual class would be called an Overbrid and one of it's upgrades should definitely be a Legendary Pokemon splice.

Anyways, I'm glad you like the picture. I do have one more Gardevoir one but it isn't as good.

As for the Shock Trooper, they're just powerhouses, capable of dealing and taking lots of damage before going down. Depending on battle conditions, they may be able to fight using two Pokemon and themselves. The Shock Troopers are most likely going to be Rayleen, Harliette, Whitney, Kirie, and Mika. They'll have a few offensive and defensive powers that will allow them to take more pain or affect battle flow.

Menarker 05-10-2010 04:39 PM

Whew, did that big post, and there is presumably a bit more to come, but I'll let people post a bit first. Basically, Renny will be asking if everyone is ok, thanking for their assistance, hug a few of them, extended conversation with a few, passing that wine to everyone (assume everyone will get plastered, hot and bothered by the end). Converse with Lexhur, (hoping he disabled all his landmines!). Offers overnight hospitality to everyone since many are wounded and god damn tired... plus with people injuried/drunk, no one can drive safely. :3

That sort of thing.

Dracorion 05-10-2010 05:28 PM

I'm assuming that, aside from the Kimonos that are joining PATCA, there'll still be some other Kimonos showing up smack dab in the middle of our mission to wreck some shit?

There's still three others you haven't introduced, after all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geminex (Post 1038227)
Oh, and Dantefalcon...
Wanna make a little deal?

If this is about what I think it means, hell, I don't know what's going to happen.

By the way AB, about your earlier comment about Kirie being frightening... Yeah, I don't see it. I mean, slaughtering the Dark was cool and all, but the comment about ripping out Light's spine and using it as a tampon? Yeah, that's a clear attempt to intimidate, and that's what Kirie did wrong.

See, a truly frightening character doesn't try to be frightening. They just are. More specifically, they do their thing casually, like it's an every day thing, no matter how gruesome or horrible it is and then go about their business like normal. That's one way to be frightening, anyway.

So yeah, Kirie? Not frightening.

To show a recent example, because it was so awesome I just have to repeat it to ye lesser minds that probably don't even watch that show anyway, see the Horseman Death from Supernatural. Yeah. It's taking all my willpower not to launch into a rant on why he's just so badass and frightening.

If Pierce ever gets pissed at some point after he becomes half-demon, he should make people shit in the pants just by looking at them. Hmmm... maybe I should kill Sam.

Y'know AB, one of these days you're going to have to answer my PMs. One of these days. You'll see! You'll all see! YOU CAN'T IGNORE ME FOREVER.

Bard The 5th LW 05-10-2010 05:38 PM

Did you guys hear something? Because I didn't.

And anyone wonder how Pierce is still walking around after that thunder?

Dracorion 05-10-2010 06:52 PM

I dunno, same way Ash keeps walking around after being shocked by Pikachu a million times?

I mean, you'd at least expect the guy to be a little paraplegic by now, but nooooooo.

Although I did hear somewhere that the anime may be kicking Ash to the curb and staring new with a new lead, so who knows? Maybe all those shocks finally caught up with him.

Menarker 05-10-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracorion (Post 1038482)
By the way AB, about your earlier comment about Kirie being frightening... Yeah, I don't see it. I mean, slaughtering the Dark was cool and all, but the comment about ripping out Light's spine and using it as a tampon? Yeah, that's a clear attempt to intimidate, and that's what Kirie did wrong.

See, a truly frightening character doesn't try to be frightening. They just are. More specifically, they do their thing casually, like it's an every day thing, no matter how gruesome or horrible it is and then go about their business like normal. That's one way to be frightening, anyway.

So yeah, Kirie? Not frightening.

I figured it was less about Kirie actually trying to be intimidating and more like she was thash talking because she was just in the mood, she's excited about finally getting to kill shit, not a slightest bit worried and it just comes out in her language.

But yeah, quite an unusual declaration of intent :3

Also, I heard that Ash being replaced and all was a hoax or April Fools prank.

Dracorion 05-10-2010 07:24 PM

Yyyyeah. Kirie is still only slightly scarier than Charlotte.

And I'm pretty sure I was hearing about it before April's Fools.

Bard The 5th LW 05-10-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Yyyyeah. Kirie is still only slightly scarier than Charlotte.
I see this, and take it as a challenge.

Geminex 05-10-2010 09:25 PM

You all need to stop posting so much when other people are sick. And didn't Pierce pick up Impact's dragon slave after the battle?

Dracorion 05-10-2010 09:33 PM

Um. No.

I mean, if Pierce picked up Impact's Dragon Slave, what the hell was Impact fighting with? I doubt he had time to go get his own Slave between battles.

Geminex 05-10-2010 10:01 PM

Why didn't he? That was the entire point of Impact dropping it.
:/

Eh, never mind. We'll find some other way of getting it to you.

Oh, and your planned ghost/dragon weapon, could you explain the mechanics of that to me? How'd it work, say, against a fire pokemon?

Dracorion 05-10-2010 10:17 PM

Well, gee, I don't know. You could've made it more obvious! I mean, it sounded more like a casual strategy fightin' thingy rather than OH HEY PIERCE PICK UP THE DRAGON SLAVE.

Um, against a Fire pokemon? It should deal neutral damage. I'd rather just have it take both type's strengths. So it should deal 2x damage to Dragon, Psychic and Ghost. Plus 6x damage on Ruin types. That's still less strengths than other types like Ground and Fighting and Ice.

Geminex 05-10-2010 10:20 PM

Kay. How about resistances? I'm asking cause I like the idea, I'm thinking of suggesting that all Semidemonic slayers or battle masters should get a custom weapon, and why not make them dual-type?

Edit:
What I'd proposem is that it always hits with the best element (i.e. the one that does the most damage) against anything except for Ruin, where it hits with both elements. (For 6x damage)
If AB's fine with that, I'd be as well.

Dracorion 05-10-2010 10:28 PM

Should take both type's weaknesses too. So, it'd probably deal 1/4 damage to Steel, and half damage to Dark.

On the Dark Ruin General, I imagine it'd deal 3x damage. And for Lexhur, hmmm... 1.5x? Yeah, that sounds about right.

EDIT: I dunno. I mean, I can't think of any pokemon or type combination that would result in a dual-typed weapon doing 8x damage to a dual-typed pokemon. You'd get 6x, at most.

Although I see your point. We do seem to have a habit of breezing through battles that should otherwise be arduous. How about if we get dual-typed weapons, but only as long as they don't deal more than 4x damage on any type combination? Except Ruin pokemon, of course.

Man, if only I'd had Netherwurm for Phantomere. I mean, 8x damage!

Astral Harmony 05-11-2010 02:07 AM

I'm back from work. I'll check the RP thread, post what I dare, and then get hard on that database again.

By the way, I think I just found the perfect song for the final boss fight.

Dracorion 05-11-2010 08:02 AM

Well it figures that Primal Exist is a chick.

What's the song?

Yeah, Pierce doesn't like going anywhere near a mile of the approximate vicinity within a five-mine radius of a certain subject.

Yes, Pierce gave a speech. I figure it's about time one of us did one. Of course, it's not all that impressive because the moment isn't that significant.

EDIT: Wonder if Impact will say anything about Pierce's mention of liberty.

AB, as a warning for the future, because I have no idea what's going on in that crazy head of yours: God help the unlucky soul that uses Attract on Aria.

Astral Harmony 05-11-2010 01:18 PM

I'm thinking the final boss fight will be done to Hiro-X "The Meaning of Truth"

Hey, it worked for Captain Falcon.

Hell, Impact can do the finisher. Jump all the way up into the air and then strike the final blow while shouting "Ultimate Signature Technique! Impact Pawnch!"

Cue explosion that can be seen halfway across the galaxy and we're good for an ending.

Dracorion 05-11-2010 04:06 PM

Wouldn't an explosion that can be seen halfway across the galaxy, y'know, destroy the planet?

I mean, it'd be a hell of a way to go out. But then we won't get a sequel.

DanteFalcon 05-11-2010 04:41 PM

Bah. Dracorion, you and your logic. You make too much sense. The rest of us just want to see the pretty light.

Dracorion 05-11-2010 04:48 PM

Sorry, sometimes I can't turn my brain off.

EDIT: I can't tell if Charlotte is being sarcastic or not.

You know AB, Nagarai still needs a name.


We have a couple more days ingame to screw around, yes? That means I can wait until the next day to get Pierce shitfaced.

Gem, you might wanna consider getting a Dragon/Dark weapon for the Psychic Ruin General. Or a Dragon/Psychic for the Poison General. Or Dragon/Steel for the Ice and Rock Generals.

Also, Pierce is going to try to return the Dragon Slave to Impact as soon as he picks it up. Just sayin'.

Bard The 5th LW 05-11-2010 07:48 PM

About Pierce being inspiring? Yeah that was sarcasm. She doesn't care much for politics or any similar crap that Pierce was talking 'bout, nothin' but trouble for her.

Geminex 05-11-2010 10:58 PM

Oh come on, guys. I'm absent for two days, and what happens? We've gone ages without filling up a thread! Where's the spam? The endless discussions? The RP's almost progressing faster than we are.
*disgusted*

Anyway, back to the RP. Plot is interesting... I'm torn on how to respond to this. I thought Renny was supposed to be the idealistic one, he's gonna be pissed that Pierce is muscling in on hit territory.

Dracorion 05-11-2010 11:06 PM

Stupid and naive is a far cry from idealistic.

... Damn, did I say that out loud?

Anyway, I think Renny's closer to optimism than idealism.

You do realize that the endless discussions were almost all you and me arguing or you and Menarker? What's the common link? You.

I mean, Menarker and I haven't got into a good argument in a while.

Menarker 05-11-2010 11:17 PM

That's because I was holding back on me saying that Pierce's idealism is a fraud in the attempt to look good in front of Shizuka. :3

Oh god, wouldn't it be funny if there was a pokemon that was capable of knowing when someone was lying? And everytime Pierce lied or said something he truly didn't meant, it would flare up or something in front of everyone?

=P

If you look back at Renny's little backstory/speech back in mission 2, it was less optimism (although he would want to), and more idealism.

Then again, there is no way to convince anyone who thinks of Renny as stupid and naive of anything resembling philosophy. :3

Dracorion 05-11-2010 11:22 PM

You wish Pierce was just lying.

If it helps, of course he knows it's not as simple as that.

Truth detecting is what Psychics are for, Menarker.

Menarker 05-11-2010 11:26 PM

A normal psychic pokemon can just lie about whether a someone was lying or not or a person could just claim that pokemon is lying about whether he actually felt a falsehood or not.

What I meant was a pokemon whose body reacts visably when a lie takes place. Like he or she can't hide or help it.

That way, it happens right in everyone's face, no need for a middle-man to possibly muck up the interpretion. :3

Any of you watched that Disney version of "The Black Cauldron"? That harp the bard carried which snapped its strings every time he lied? Same notion.

EDIT: @Charlotte: Renny's wine thing is supposed to be pretty damn intoxicating. :3 Ah well, there is no reason why Charlotte can't be one of the characters with a stomach made of iron. It would make her reaction to everyone else swooning funny... especially with blackmail pictures. :3

Dracorion 05-11-2010 11:35 PM

You know who else has a stomach made of iron? Pierce.

No, I'm not making that shit up. Pierce has a small bit of a drinking problem.

Besides, drunk Pierce is one of those things that makes you never sleep well again. So yeah, better if Pierce is no lightweight.

Menarker 05-11-2010 11:39 PM

*Shrug*

One thing that came to my mind about Pierce and Renny's comparitive "idealism"... Renny's is more about personal philosophy. Something in a way that guides his own life and choices (which kinda make sense since he's still growing up and making choices). Pierce's idealism (aside from sounding as if he was in a hollywood movie) seems a bit on the impersonal and more general idealism about what he hopes the outcome would be.

Mind you, I still think it came out sounding like it was rather out of character, so I thought Pierce was ALREADY DRUNK.

Dracorion 05-11-2010 11:43 PM

Well hollywood movies are where great speeches come from, everybody knows that.

It didn't seem out of character for me, but that's probably because I wrote it. And he's my character. I'll try to tone down the hollywoodness in future speeches, though.

What the hell would Pierce be drunk on? Three beers? Please.

Geminex 05-11-2010 11:46 PM

See? That's what I'm talking about! Very nice! I'd participate, but time is in very short supply for me. Later. Two more days, and I'll have all the time in the world.

Oh, and I was wondering how old everyone is? If you're reluctant to say, then just tell me: Older than my 17-year-old self? Or younger?


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