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Pokemon Umbral Discussion 28: A Wild Cerulean Wildfire Appears!
so i herd that u might not liek mudkipz...
http://www.mhho.com/Studio/2008/FanArt/Mudkip.jpg Like 'em now? 'Cause dayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumn. Anyways, I wouldn't really say that Pokegeddon was cheating. The difference between the two sides was more like a difference in potential. Think of it like Disgaea. If you have a bunch of level 300's taking on a level 4000, hits just aren't going to connect (this includes magic and special moves), and those that do are on par with love taps. It's not a difference of whether rules were ignored, it's a difference of the fact that they're simply too powerful for rules when their opponents are...well, you guys. And if you think that's strong, just wait until you see what real badasses like Dinner and Gaea and Idolus can do to your mortal flesh. Gimme the night off tonight. I'm trying to think about how the battle will work. What I do have figured out is that Cerulean Wildfire will begin in the forefront, and then HPG troopers will mass up and then Ceru will take a back seat and beat you up from safety. She's definitely a Destroyer unit. You should also expect snipers to join in. But it won't be an over-the-top zerg. More like an Engineer and a Sniper appear this turn, then a Medic and another Engineer jump in the next turn, then maybe three soldiers bounce on in on the next turn, and if the numbers get too large, Ceru backs off behind relative safety. I'm also thinking of throwing in a Pokeweapon. Pokeweapons are rare, genetically-altered Pokemon that aren't like Pokemon Alphas or Pokesapiens at all. Think of like this: what if Beedrill had four more evolutions ahead of it? That's a Pokeweapon. They are big. They are badass. Fortunately, they still fall to type advantages, so they are essentially doable at your levels...I hope. |
You seem to be a real Mudkip/Swampert fan. ^^
*Swampert starts pushing Renny toward that girl* Anyhow, that's quite a load of news to take in. The pokeweapons in particular, but Ceru as well... Anyhow, I doubt we'll be finished planning tonight, so you should be able to rest up tonight. Anyhow, off to bed. EDIT: Happy Birthday Dante. Hope you find it enjoyable/rewarding. |
As a note, Faynoc has the technology and intelligence to make more powerful Pokeweapons, but lacks the resources. The Prideguard is legally allowed to possess a limited force of Pokeweapons, but power-hungry Burkmont wants Faynoc for the R&D he's done on 'em so he can create an unstoppable army of them. Now it makes sense why Burkmont wants Faynoc in his interrogation chamber.
No love among villains, I swear. And Happy Birthday, Dante! Don't get too plastered if you're still sick. I've never been drunk personally (I'm just not a drinker), but I can only imagine how much it could suck to be both sick and hungover. |
It is unlikely I will be going out to drink. I have a fairly difficult online class starting this week so I don't really have a lot of time to burn. But should my older bro come home at some point in the future and he gets me drunk I will make him record it, post it on youtube, and link you all to it.
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Sounds cool. Happy Birthday.
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... Nah, screw it. I'm not wishing Dante a happy birthday. Because I'm a jerk like that.
Anyway, we need to decide who we're reviving. I suggest that Renny spend 40 Rage to spread a Full Restore on Matt, Impact, Mollesk and Harliette. Rachel uses Max Revives on Tyranitar and Swampert. Our formation should be something like: [Evolith/Device Space 1] [Matthias] [Sol-Leks] [Pike] [Bastiodon] [Nidoqueen] [Harliette] [Blissey] [Mollesk] [Swampert] [Aria] [Tyranitar] [Crawdaunt] [Fathom] [Impact] [Evolith/Device Space 2] We don't have to have Aria out this turn so we can open up with Sunny Day when the baddies arrive. And yeah, didn't revive Hammond in favor of Sol-Leks for fire, and Pike for electric against Cerulean. Not sure about Swampert either. |
Okay, posting what Impact posted. (Although I editted out Shaymin, because AB said that everyone was fully healed before the Gardenoir joined combat.)
Critical damage: Matt Harliette Impact Mollesk (Re) Spitz (C) Knocked out: Hammond (C) Blaziken (P) Tyranitar (P) Lanturn (M) Empoleon (Ra) Vespiqueen (H) Wormadam (H) Swampert (Re) I got no big objection with Drac's plan, although I second the motion of not having Aria out the first turn. Drac, isn't Tyranitar going to have problems with Aria's rain dance, due to it being a rock type? Same for Mollesk even though it technically comes from a species that lives on beaches and even underwater sometimes. Seems odd to put Aria in the same formation as your own rock pokemon. Also, Renny is likely to send out Umbreon this turn to use Psych Up instead of Swampert. (Good for 2 stages to all stats since Impact should have +4 to all stats by now.) Plus, we might want to save Swampert for whatever mimic action we may need later on. AB: Shall I assume that Mollesk high enough level that it would max its defense and special defense (999) this turn due to a 4 stage boost? Since Mollesk is tripling his defense and special defense and its base stat at level 50 for those two stats is 230 (according to Serebi's stats of Shuckle which Mollesk's defense is a copy of and that's assuming a neutral nature.) It only needs 333 in those stats to max it out, and a Shuckle with neutral nature can reach 559 at level 100. Also, what is Wilhelmina's status? She needed a turn off to deal with the bleeding from Lopunnish. Is she all better now or is the bleeding ok but she is still damaged? |
Tyranitar's a tough cookie.
Some of us aren't as anal about defense, you know. And I don't care how you try to avoid it, Mollesk's going to take a morale hit from Drizzle and that's final. |
Not as tough as Mollesk defensively though. :3
Good thing about Tyranitar being on the field though? Sandstorm boosts Special Defence of Rock pokemon by 50%. Mollesk is a rock type with the highest caliber in special defense and that's before the tripling of Special Defense with Cosmic Power. ^^ Even more so, that boost does not comply with stage based buffs and can stack. So Mollesk would have more than 999 Special Defense. Quote:
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Yep. Now you owe me big time for helping you like that.
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>_> Being a tad bit ungrateful, eh? You forgetting the rage rockets to Pierce and all the support Renny has been doing? Renny is already doing practically full-time support helping Pierce and everyone else.
*Wonders if I should scratch Pierce off Propserous Gift list* =P But seriously, I doubt you actually took that in account when sending out Tyranitar. ^^ It'll help out a lot though, and it will likely pay off with a very useful Follow Me protection. Wildfire's plasma attack seems very special type based. Seems like something Mollesk could resist with Special Defense exceeding 1500. |
That's different. Because you're not a petty, spiteful bastard and I am.
Besides, Pierce getting extra RPs is much less selfish than Mollesk getting extra Special Defense. Especially since I'm damned certain most of Wildfire's attacks are going to be multi-target, so Follow Me will be useless. And how would it exceed 1500? Mollesk's Special Defense caps out at 999, take 50% of that and it makes just below 1500. |
Somehow, you yourself saying that you are a petty spiteful bastard makes me feel much better... somehow... dunno why.
^^; My imagination went wild just waking up in the morning, that I screwed up on the math. Still, a near 500 boost to a stat is pretty freaking sweet. EDIT: I realized there are probably more "inspired characters" than I originally thought existed... I mentioned before how Chizuru having the largest breasts and being obssessed with maternal affection and house-wife traits being a shout-out to Mahou Sensei Negima who has a girl with the same name, largest tits in the class and is the most maternal of the entire class (and scary/dangerous if you piss her off apparently.) Lola seem very much similar to her counterpart in that Loony Toons movie "Space Jams" with the same pink fur, same name, and is a humanoid bunny. Wilhelmina is a battle maid in this RP, while in Shakugan No Shana there is a battle maid character with the same name. (Although this RP, she is a sniper, while the manga counterpart is a ninja.) Moon Travoria reminds me rather similar to the Travoria family in Dominic Deegan, Luna in particular (wealthy family, adept with water types.) |
Whatever you asked about Mollesk's shit was way above my head. Let me go ahead and admit that my knowledge of Pokemon isn't terribly great. My strategy usually never involved buffs and debuffs. It's always been about "Kill that muthafuckah with levels in excess of 30 above the enemy!" I'm a grinder. When it comes to RPGs, I tend to grind my force so that they're way beyond capable of destroying the enemy.
Anyways, let me go ahead and clear a few things up, though it's nothing serious at all: Gardenoir's Signature Technique being named "Umbral Awakening" actually is a coincidence. They don't know dick about Ruin Pokemon. I was just thinking about an attack named "something of awakening" or "awakening something" and then I said to myself "Hey, I already have something called Umbral Awakening! Why don't I just use that?" Yep, I'm retarded. I hadn't seen Mahou Sensei Negima before Chizuru starred off in Soldiers of Light, so that connection is coincidence as well. I've seen it since, but I didn't remember a girl named Chizuru in there. Maybe because there's so many girls in there. Great anime, though. Lola's reference is pretty spot on, though unconsciously spot on. I wasn't really thinking about it when I created her. I knew there was the name Lola and it was associated with an anthropomorphic bunny, but I just couldn't pin it. Space Jam, eh? Yeah, now I remember. Wilhelmina is good in name only. I liked that name ever since I heard it on Shakugan no Shana. I tend to work that name in, usually for a mysterious and powerful woman type. Just sounds like a kickass name for a chick, don't it? A name like that probably comes with its own stat boosts. I was thinking about Garus Vakarian from Mass Effect when I came up with Moon Travorian. Not sure why. I had read Dominic Deegan before, though. That dude knows how to tell some bitchin' stories. Wish I could draw as good as him, too. EDIT: Just read the posts. Wow, I feel like a dick. When creating those moves, I thought of Sephiroth's uncanny ability to drag the Final Fantasy VII world right into the sun and yet after, the planet still remains and everyone else still seems to be alive. I find it rather humorous how the characters in RPGs are always trying to outdo each other by having the most ridiculous attacks ever. Like when Squall does that one Limit Break where he creates a beam out of his gunblade that actually exits the atmosphere and pierces the heavens. Rest assured that no people were harmed in the making of those attacks. Those were just physics-defying attacks that are getting all too common in certain RPGs. |
Really? I'd prefer it if the attacks actually did kill people.
Mostly because then my post isn't completely ridiculous. |
I won't even say it.
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Menarker, would you like to do the honors on this one? Oh, and sorry 'bout my absence today. Been busy. I'll post later this evening. Edit: Oh, and we need to have at least one more party that features Karaoke. Preferrably when I have time to post. Cause then I could have Impact get drunk and sing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5mtclwloEQ&feature=fvw Edit2: Did you realize: "Slaughter" is just laughter with an S at the front. You also can't spell "funeral" without FUN, but that's another matter. Anyway, what to do? I'm fine with what healing we're currently doing, but we have some spare resources. Let's buff a bit. Charlotte should probably go for a nasty plot again... not sure about the other move. Maybe use a max revive on hammond? Or a rage rocket on herself. Whatever she wants. Pierce... does tyranitar have any buff moves? Try to power up a bit. I'm not sure what you could do. Renny's busy... Impact has a Max Revive at hand, he could use it to do some good for once. Question is... who? I don't think Harliette has many buff moves. Healing, yes. But no buff. Just let her sit there and wait? Suggestions would be welcome. I'm sure matt can buff himself. Does Porygon2 have nasty plot? If so, use that. If not, take your pick. And what uber-techniuqe does your Porygon form have? Have you chosen one yet? Moon has some nice buff moves. He could send out poliwrath and have it use bulk up. He also has swords dance on Crawdaunt, but I don't think that would help us much. Though then again, crabhammer is pretty strong. What d'you all think? Rachel's obviously off using items. She can heal her empoleon for free, since she loses 25 extra-item rage and gains 25 pokemon-revived rage. And I think that's it. Not much, but we're an offensive team, not optimized for buffing... |
AB: Still waiting to hear if Wilhelmina is in good condition or badly damaged and all that, due to Lopunnish's attack.
Anyhow, I'll leave your buffing/healing matters that isn't Renny related up to you guys, almost pretty much everyone is healed up. Had done my post already. Although I would think Crawdaunt's Sword Dance would be good for picking off soldiers. It got a naturally high power after all, so doubling that is good. ^^ Matt could use Psych Up on Impact with Poryzon Z to get +2 stage boosts to all stats (since Impact should be at +4 by now) ^^ Doubling all the boostable stats would be neat, especially since Porygon Z got Special Attack as high as Alakazam (Its Hyper Beam is probably the strongest possible due to STAB in addition to the high Special Attack.) As for Harriette, check to see if any of her remaining pokemons have a buff move or something they can prepare in advance. |
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Agreed. Otherwise, we become Dragon Ball Z. And yeah my turn will consist of this. Sol-leks: Nasty Plot Other: Max Revive on Hammond |
Nah, we're not Dragon Ball Z. It doesn't take five missions of trashtalking for us to actually get to fighting. Buh dum tsh!
Wilhelmina is relatively fine and raring to go. I'll do my post now. EDIT 1: Actually, do you guys need more time? I just wanna make sure you've done all within your power to get ready. Ceru's no Pokegeddon, but she's not to be trifled with. |
I'll have Impact give a few orders. Gimme a sec.
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Give me one good reason why Pierce shouldn't kick Impact upside the head.
Heh. The only pokemon of Pierce's that had a buff move is Metagross' Iron Defense. Or does Skarmory's Roost count? |
Why would he? All Impact did was tell him to stop ranting about people dying in the middle of a warzone.
I mean, sure, they were civilians. And now they are dead. How sad. And you have the choice, tyranitar or metagross? |
Well of course it's sad. Especially for Pierce. He has this whole thing, you'll see it in full steam during his sidequest.
Tyranitar. I really wanna test Sandstorm. Plus, if we drop their morale enough Tyranitar can use Roar to scare the living shit out of Wildfire's reinforcements. |
Eh. You and your silly "morals". They're all subjective, y'know! SUBJECTIVE! THEY DON'T APPLY TO ME! I'M FREEEEEE!
Ahem. Have we established what roar does, exactly? |
Makes baddies run away shitting their pants and trainer pokemon return to their pokeballs?
AB, does Roar affect the entire enemy formation or just one target? I mean, of course using it when the enemy has low morale won't make everyone run away, but it should be better than just scaring one jackass. |
I'm not asking what the general afect is, I'm asking what it does exactly. How does morale affect it? What's the probability?
Cause I don't think AB cleared that effect. And what d'you mean, you wanna test sandstorm? |
See if sand can fuck up mechanical enemies.
And really? You're asking AB to give you math? |
No, you are. I just told you to. Minion-licious!
I like the idea with the sand, though. Might work. Especially if we add water and lightning. |
You're asking me to do balancing? Really?
Well, don't come crying to me when it turns out Roar makes Impact piss in his pants, despite the fact that he's an ally. Roar (all targets) When the enemy morale rate is high, Roar has no effect. When morale is low, there is an increased chance that enemies will run away when Roar is used. If a trainer is not affected, their pokemon still might be in which case they will return to their pokeballs. If enemies do not run away, they may still be inflicted with Fear, forfeiting their turn. When Overwhelming Tide is in effect, the chance to make enemies run away and to inflict Fear increases greatly. Every time Roar is used, whether by an ally or an enemy and regardless of the morale value, Impact pisses in his pants and forfeits his turn. Yep, I realize it's probably overpowered. But then, since it's up to AB to decide if it works at all, I figure what the hell, AB isn't going to make an enemy run away if he doesn't want them to anyway. |
Sounds allright. Though I'd give it splash, at most. Not have it hit all enemies. And that last bit. That last bit is silly.
And besides, Impact's one of our best damage dealers. If he's incapacitated, our team's going to be one hell of a lot weaker. |
What, just three adjacent targets? Oh come on.
Okay, fine. Jerk. Roar (three adjacent targets) When the enemy morale rate is high, Roar has no effect. When morale is low, there is an increased chance that the targets will run away when Roar is used. A trainer is affected when one of their pokemon is targetted. If the trainer does not run away, their pokemon still might be affected in which case they will return to their pokeballs. If enemies do not run away, they may still be inflicted with Fear, forfeiting their turn. When Overwhelming Tide is in effect, the chance to make enemies run away and to inflict Fear increases greatly. Every time Roar is used, whether by an ally or an enemy and regardless of the morale value, Impact pisses in his pants and forfeits his turn. There. You know, remember way back when I suggested that Pressure exponentially accelerate morale decrease? And that it stack when there are several pokemon out with Pressure? Couple that with Roar. I'll let you figure out the rest. Quote:
Hmm, no, I don't. |
Eh. Unless I have a guarantee that pressure does HUUUUGE morale damage, I'm not going to worry profusely. Mind you, if it does threaten The Sacred Balance, prepare for a 3-thread discussion.
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I HAVE BRAVAAAADOOOOOOO!!! |
And balls. Don't forget balls.
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I question that. I seriously question that.
And don't even try to prove it. |
Don't tempt me. I will prove the hell out of it on your face.
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Lemme just put something out there.
The last time you made such an absolute statement, you were saying that you'd never admit to being at fault. I seriously questioned this statement. You remained defiant. 8 hours later, you were wrong. Now, consider what absolute statement you are currently making. Consider that I am seriously questioning it. Consider the... consequences of suddenly, horribly, being wrong about this statement. Now consider this, my friend: You can drop your insistence, and all will be forgotten. Or you can remain adamant. And maybe there will be no... repercussions. But maybe, just maybe, this trend will continue. And tell me, is that really a risk you want to take? |
Yes.
For one, said admittance of being wrong happened in another RP so it doesn't count so shut up. Besides, under any other circumstances I would never had admitted anything, but I had to apologize so that they'd let me edit that post without them thinking less of me or any of that crap. Or something. |
Roar does pretty much work that way. There really isn't such a thing as Fear, though. How Roar works is that it may not work or will only work for like, one turn if morale is high. If morale is low, enemies tend to keep away for more turns, and may not even come back to harass you further. And it will only work on one enemy at a time. I tend to think of Roar as the user getting all up in the enemy's face and roaring at him to the point where his cheeks are flapping from the blast of noise.
However, morale issues tend to fall flat when a powerful unit is in the field. It's very difficult to lower enemy morale when Cerulean Wildfire is still standing. Take her down, however, and that's pretty much an Overwhelming Tide all by itself. Anyways, it's morning here so I gotta go to work soon. Looks like Geminex and Dracorian could use some time alone, anyways. I'll post this afternoon and then I've got duty tomorrow so y'all'll have plenty of time to figure out how to respond to seeing Cerulean Wildfire. Yes. Just seeing her. Her appearance is very distracting all on its own. |
Your mother and Geminex need some time alone. Hmph!
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Personally, I'm thinking Wildfire would fall into uncanny valley territory. No chance of arousal there.
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... There's just no hope for you is there?
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What?
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... Wasn't that the kind of "distracting" that AB meant? |
See that right there? That's the point.
And, and below that? Way below there, see? That's your head. |
Well excuuuuuuse me princess, I recently realized that, with all the strategizing I was busy doing, quite a bit of calculus had slipped from my memory. I have been catching up to that, and was, consequently, somewhat distracted. If there's some incredibly subtle and sophisticated nuance that I missed, please, do explain.
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See, this is why teenagers shouldn't be planning to conquer the world.
World domination is a full-time job! And anyway, if you don't know, you don't deserve to know. |
Eh, I can continue part-time for now, work behind the scenes. I'll go full-time in a few years.
Incidentally, is that your final answer, considering that in a few years' time I may or may not be in a position to extract said information from you with various degrees of... vehemence? |
Do you really need to ask?
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Ok, y'know what, I don't even care anymore. You will regret your defiance, most certainly, but that's not my problem.
And sorry about roar not being utterly overpowered. Must come as a deep shock to you. My condolences. But really, you'll only be hurt in this business. Leave the min-maxing to Menarker. |
I seem to recall that it was you who told me to do the balancing. I only went along because I got to add a line about Impact pissing in his pants. And hey, if AB approved it, good for me!
By the way AB, you have to approve that line about Impact pissing in his pants and missing his turn whenever Roar is used. You have to. Or else I will boycot this RP, I swear to God. |
Right, Drac, nice knowing you, it's been a good run. Good luck out there, sorry you have to go yadda yadda yadda.
You're aware, of course, that with your absence Pierce will turn into an NPC, and will, as such, be killable (and wouldn't it be horrible if something unexpectedly happened to him oh dear), but don't worry. And speaking of not bothering you, you wouldn't mind if Shizuka, shocked by Pierce's death finds comfort in Impact (or, more accurately, in his genitals) will you? Come to think of it, maybe you will mind, you can be territorial about that sort of stuff, can't you? but hey, you're boycotting us! You don't get a say. Wonderful, isn't it? |
Boy, you have no idea how wonderful.
Push comes to shove, I'd kill Pierce and Sam and Shizuka and Chizuru before you can get to them. But it won't come to that. |
Yeah. Only no.
a) I'd like to see you try to kill any of the kimonos b) I'm sure I can somehow get necromancy And why wouldn't it come to that? |
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...Buh? I read about a page of this and I think I need therapy. Seriously, you two are messed up. Big time. Maybe I should give Menarker the lead since he doesn't let crazy shit like you crazy fuckers get to him like you get to each other. And don't think you can kill him if I do give it to him. I'll Dinner you both so fast that there won't even be a footnote in the epilogue, except maybe a part where you two were suspected to be having buttsecks as you were annihilated. I'll laugh the whole damn rest of the RP. Speaking of the RP, I've got a bizarre idea: a second RP. I've said it before, but I must repeat it to provide backstory. At the end of Mission 3, Rayleen will leave PATCA. She'll make an appearance with some new allies during Mission 4 just for the sake of fanservice but after that, she's gone and she won't be around for a long, long time. I was originally thinking of a discussion thread detailing what she's doing, but then it hit me: why not just create another RP? You guys, if you give a shit, can create a new character to go with Rayleen. I can split the plot so that both sides get their fair share of big bads. The plots will converge near the very end of the RP. By the way, I refuse to make Impact wet his pants when Roar is used. Boycott the RP all you like, but what is that going to accomplish? Nobody's signed up to play since the beginning, and I highly doubt Dracorian whining like a little kid whose parents cut off his World of Warcraft 'cause he just kept using the account to call everyone the N-word and making many other nonsensical derogatives and didn't even bother to level up his rogue... ... Wait, where was I? Oh yeah. I highly doubt Dracorian whining would make Menarker, Geminex, BardTheFifthLightWarrior, and DanteFalcon stop playing. And if they did? Well, I can catch up on my video gaming because I won't have to do this RP anymore. Believe me, it wouldn't bother me one bit. So sit down and eat your sundae. You're not going to wrangle any good shit for yourself out of this GM, no sirree. EDIT: By the way, could I get a list in this color of what you guys're doing in the RP? That'll make this take much less time. |
Oh come on. It's just friendly competitiveness. How is that messed up? We don't actually mean any of that. Certainly not enough to affect our in-character actions.
And I would be very unhappy if you misinterpreted our interaction as justification to transfer leadership to Menarker. I'd demonstrate how I really act if someone... gets to me. And second RP. Hmmm. Do we have the time? Because I don't know if you do, but I might not. Sequel, yes. But parallel RP? Not a full-scale one, is what I'd recommend. Maybe we could try to work on a continuity, what's happened before, what's currently happening, in the wider world. Edit: Quote:
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Sure, I would definitely be interested in a second RP. I even got an idea for a character in my head right now. Admittedly, I was going to save the character for Charlotte's sidequest, but I think her can be worked in.
And if Drac really does boycott the RP, than all I can say is that he would be missed. |
Probably for the best. The reason I called it bizarre is because it's difficult enough to have time or even interest in this RP anymore. Damn it, why the hell did I make it so damn big? Ruin Generals, Gabriel Force, Faynoc and Burkmont, Pokesynths, Pokeweapons, Evoliths, specialties, yadda-yadda-yadda. I'm killing myself with plot!
But I'll still do the second RP if at least someone wants to. Not everybody needs to chip in. If you don't wanna do a second character on top of your first one, I wouldn't expect you to try. EDIT: I see that list now, Geminex. Sorry 'bout that. Didn't even know that post was there. I'll definitely have a post done tonight. |
Yeah the plot is becoming a bit of a club to the head. Those times Charlotte said all of the factions and groups confused her and she was losing track of things? That was sort of me talking as well as Charlotte.
But I still want to see it through. But yeah, I'm OK with the sort of Umbral Gaiden RP. I'd join in, and maybe people outside our little circle could join in to. |
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I'm no sure how well it would work, but it'd take some of the load off our GM's back. It's supposed to be fun for all of us, no? Edit: In regards to the plot getting a bit much, I made a flowchart once. That helped. But mostly I focus on short-term objectives such as "Kill all sons of bitches". Sort of oblivious to all the fantastic history... |
Yep. Cerulean Wildfire is a bitch.
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Indeed. No melee... but it could be worse.
In fact, it isn't so horrible. I mean, yes, the metallic bitch can set three of us on fire every turn, but that's what enforcers are for. Trainers can switch pokemon, and if both their leaders are affected, they can just switch with their enforcers for a turn while their leader pokemon stop being on fire. What does worry me is Wildfire's ability to, seemingly, deal what we in Australia like to call a "bloody crapload" of damage. Because damn, great damage vs. Mollesk. I'll probably OHKO everything that's not Impact. And it might even be enough to kill Impact. So I guess, switch often enough to prevent fire from interfering with us, prepare to take a few casualties, and hit as hard as we can. Probably we won't have any type advantages, sadly, but that's allright. What d'you think, should Pierce deploy Nagrai? Waste of a sunny day, I think, but might be necessary. |
... We get sundaes?
You think it might be necessary? I think FUCKIN YAH DO IT. For one, Wildfire's going to hurt a hell of a lot even if we have Rainy Day out. I fucking hate it when bosses cheat don't you hate it when bosses cheat? Anyway, right around now's when we want to put the hurt on Wildfire. Signature Techs if we have any. And Tyranitar is pretty much useless now. Guess I should deploy Kingdra? Yeah, I'd join another Umbral RP. |
Well, we sadly don't have many single-target, special-type signature techniques, do we?
And ok, go with Nagrai. All allright. I'd join one as well. How am I going to keep up with the rest of you if I only have one character. But it'd have to be slow-paced. And more story than combat-based. |
Seriously? Great Damage to Mollesk from one attack after a four stage buff to defense and special defense, which maxed out at 999 DEF and 1498 Special defense? When everyone else has practically no more but 150 at most (Impact at that level).
I call Cheat! Well, either that or that attack is a critical hit (since crit ignore buff based defense) and almost all future damage should be a lot lower. Well! I should probably call Swampert to use Surf and have Swampert's water type backlash hit Mollesk to try to wash that stuff off Mollesk. Mollesk IS weak to water, but with 999 special defense (I assume Tyranitar is being switched out for Aria?) and Swampert not being a special attack specialist? It'll easily live. A side-RP would be neat, although I'm trying to think of what sort of character could I possibly make. The only thing that makes me happy about Mollesk being set on fire? It's one of the fuggin slowest pokemons in existance, mainly owing it in existance being mostly in a mindless stupor and being a lunk of rock. I doubt anyone will be caught on fire from it unless they ran into him intentionally... "Look out, he's coming this way! Walk briskly!" AB: Doesn't Renny get a bit of rage from that? It was his pokemon that was attacked. |
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a) we don't know exactly what great damage is. I'm guessing Mollesk lost about 40% of its HP. Maybe Sunny Day boosted Wildfire... b) Excuse me? 150 at most? Your estimate is off. Way off. I won't argue for the other pokemon on-field, but Impact has a 4-stage boost, tripling his base 100 to 300. I'm guessing that pokemon are at about level 80, or 85 at the moment. That would again give him another 60%, at least, for a minimum of 480. Let's call it 500. That's more than triple your estimate. And the same applies to the other mons as well. The offensive ones might have just 150, or even less, but we have a few high-defense pokemon as well, and I think that they'd have at least 200. Mollesk is strong defensively, but it doesn't outdistance the rest of the pack by that much. Edit: And if we do a side-rp, everyone has to play the exact opposite of what they're playing in this RP. Meaning Menarker plays a Charlotte, Bard plays a Renny, I play Fighter, Drac plays an incredibly intelligent super-badass, and Dante plays an exuberant, hyper-active kid. |
I'M AFRAID NOT BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT CERULEAN OIL NEGATES BUFFS AND LOWERS SPECIAL DEFENSE.
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I mean, I'll be controlling Pierce's half entirely. I mean, I could take charge of battles in your half too, I guess, but I don't really know a lot about the enemies you'll be facing. If AB sends me his info on those enemies then yeah, I could do it. Same goes for the big battle and then the very last battle. There is another problem, though. My schedule doesn't really line up with AB's. I mean, I see him like maybe a couple of times during the day for a little while, but the time of the day he's mostly on is when I'm asleep. So if I PM him my battle evaluation and wants me to change something it's going to take longer to fix. By the way, we should be able to douse Wildfire's fire wall with any water attack, right? I dunno what kinda character I'd make for the side-RP. Push comes to shove, I guess I could introduce Sam then. Buuuutt I'd rather not do that. I think I might make a Slayer-going-Battle Master. Wondering if it should be a guy or a girl. I've got this concept for a girl I've been thinking about, but there are far too many chicks in this RP already. |
Yeah, I forgot about Impact's buff and thus his real defense (Should be around 450 at the time of the attack). Sorry. It's 5AM and I can't stay asleep. Still groggy though.
@Drac: AB made no mention about buffs in her list of what the plasma negates. Moves like Protect, yes (Renny's Protect move being nigh useless). Abilities like Magma armor, yes, even though I don't think any one of us has an ability that would have helped. And lastly, typing. Mollesk is already neutral to fire though. Gem, what did you mean by Wildfire being able to set 3 of us on fire per turn? We only saw her/it do it to Mollesk this turn. Unless you're assuming the AOE oil and the wall of fire being her other actions? I wonder if there is a way to splash Wildfire with some of that oil of hers. If she could be set on fire with her own attacks, that would be neat, since her own plasma can't be resisted by types (like rock), moves (like Protect), or abilities (like Flash Fire). EDIT: It just occurred to me that she has to respray the field with oil to douse new pokemons that arrive on the scene, so by constantly switching pokemons, we might be able to force her to use up an action specifically for oil spraying. Those who can't be switched out are pretty out of luck. |
We'd have to change up enough pokemon at a time that she'd bother to douse oil on them. And at that pace we'd run out of non-oiled pokemon pretty fast.
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Anyway, I don't think we can extinguish the Firewall. The Sentinels would surely eliminate us before we do, and then they'd go after our backups cause we're obviously a threat to transhumanity and WHOOPS WRONG RP. Sorry. Anyway, I think the wall of fire stays. Let's make do with special attacks. Quote:
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Remember how AB said that Wildfire would get some footsoldier reinforcements and then she'd step out of formation and just act as a Destroyer? Yeah, doesn't seem like killing her's going to be easy to me. And why shouldn't we be able to douse the wall? It's the same kind of fire Mollesk is on! And if we can extinguish that, we should be able to put out the wall. And Gem, you poor poor fool. Impact is neither uber-intelligent nor unstoppable nor super-badass. Also, about the oil I was bullshitting. Glad to see both of you shitting in your pants, though. |
Drac, Gem said the opposite about your character. He said his character's mentality is the opposite of Fighter. What he was comparing in your case was capability while he compared mentality with his characters.
I was clarifying about the oil btw. Although mind you, if Mollesk really got it as badly as he did in one hit, you guys (aside from Impact) are likely going to be one-hit KOed by it. Should we even be concerned with the wall of fire now? Impact got the Hydro Cannon, Pierce got Aria, Matt is in Porygon Z form I presume which specialize in special attack... We probably don't have to waste an action or two on it. Although I could have Swampert target the oil on the ground with Surf, since that would be better than it trying to attack Wildfire with its merely average special attack. Could probably wash off the oil off of Mollesk in the process due to the backlash effect similar to Earthquake. |
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Yes yes, fine. I guess I just assumed that Gem was implying that Impact is an unstoppable super badass genius. Can you really blame me? I mean, it's Geminex.
Anyway, I'll see about making an awesome mastermind. With girl bits. Now, I don't presume to know the kinda attacks we got, but I want to eliminate the wall so that we can hit Wildfire with everything we got. And then the footsoldiers too when they arrive. |
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Mind you, I don't, but Impact totally does. Ok, Renny's swampert can try using surf against it, and cool down Mollesk in the process. But focus on dealing a bit of damage, this turn. |
I'll believe Impact is a magnificent bastard if he ever gets around to pulling his Darth Sidious. With style.
And not get betrayed by his trusted lieutenant twenty years later, of course. EDIT: And just not lose at all. |
Define "with style".
And hell, he'll be betraying his lieutenants, not vice versa. Right, Bard? And he's not utterly undefeatable. He won't win always forever, that'd be boring. But he can work around stuff real good. Anyway, we have a bit more time for strategy cause of the duty day. I'll try to think of something. |
What I meant by not losing is that some jackass can't come and fuck up his empire upside down and then kill him.
And with style means being awesome about it. Make people go "holy shit, that was sooo evil, but goddamn it was bitchin'!" |
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Nope. Not a magnificent bastard. You just got out-bitchin'-ed with a single line. |
Not reading that text. Think mode has been turned off for today, so I'l let one of you guys decide my actions for me, and type out my actions accordingly.
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Sure, Renny gets five Rage. Actually, he can get five more Rage for every turn Mollesk is on fire.
Dousing the wall of fire is difficult. Cerulean Oil is used to keep it lit just like it's used to keep Mollesk lit, and if you can't wash it off, you can't put out the fire. I guess you could say that the wall of fire functions as an enemy in itself. You can deal damage to it with water and ice moves an eventually you can put it out. Just remember that enemies can't strike you at melee because of this wall of fire, either. Snipers and Destroyers aren't affected. Lexhur has 200 Rage now. Impact, if you need to, feel free to prioritize your requests. I know you gave Daphne a bigass list of things to replace, but you can always tell her what you need first and foremost. |
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