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MSperoni 07-13-2011 09:55 AM

The Dreadful -- Chapter 2
 
I decided that starting with this page I would divide the comic into approximate 24-30 page chapters. This chapter covers page 39 to page 61.

So, here is Page 39!

Brief (but dramatic) flashback time! The first appearance of Poe, and I guess Jeanne (in dialog). Jeanne appears in full on the next page (dun duuun)

I mainly wanted to show Jeanne and Poe, and I could only really do that via flashback. It was a good time for one.

GeneralBeDe 07-13-2011 11:16 AM

<3 great work so far!

MSperoni 07-13-2011 11:17 AM

Thanks! :)

BigDemonicBunny 07-13-2011 01:23 PM

Looks like Liz is Little Ms.Diplomacy (where violence is just a weapon among many, and one of last resort) and Kit is more of a "It's not a problem if not alive anymore" kind of problemsolver.

Kim 07-13-2011 01:26 PM

Revolver Oceliz

BigDemonicBunny 07-13-2011 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NonCon (Post 1141161)
Revolver Oceliz

Solid Kit?

MSperoni 07-13-2011 01:59 PM

Now I just need a whiny nerd girl to be in love with Kit and I'll be set.

"Kit, can love bloom, even on the frontier?"

EVILNess 07-13-2011 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSperoni (Post 1141166)
Now I just need a whiny nerd girl to be in love with Kit and I'll be set.

"Kit, can love bloom, even on the frontier?"

You must make this happen. It is your destiny.

MSperoni 07-13-2011 08:17 PM

I'd have no problem putting in the occasional video game reference. Though I don't think I would want to force them on the comic. I have actually thought of a few, and it's not like parody is alien territory for The Dreadful. After all, there's the comic with El Sabueso.

I am having a scene with a sniper, if there was a time to make a Sniper Wolf/Otakon joke now would be a pretty good time...

Melfice 07-15-2011 07:52 PM

I say... Jeanne is pretty scary looking.

MSperoni 07-15-2011 08:18 PM

Page 40

The first appearance of Jeanne Noelle. Now we have a visual idea of who Kit think she can handle. I think Kit might be over-estimating herself, but time shall tell.

Deck Knight 07-16-2011 02:08 AM

Is that a normal horse scaled to size or some kind of demon horse? It's like Clydesdale size, and I don't think they used Clydesdales in the Old West.

Also only now do I just realize the really tall lady in the second comic is not Jeanne. I initially thought Jeanne shot her and then showed up acting concerned for some reason.

Obviously that'd be out of character. Jeanne doesn't even have pupils!

MSperoni 07-16-2011 02:44 AM

It's proportioned like a Clydesdale (just to make it easier to draw), but I don't know if that's what it really is. Maybe a Dire Horse? My Little Dire Pony?

(Dire always goes with everything).

I mainly just wanted Jeanne to ride on something a lot bigger and more menacing than a normal horse. Sorta how in "Dynasty Warriors" Lu Bu rides on that ginormous horse Red Hare.

The tall lady was Catherine. I think someone off-panel in page 2 mentions her name and Kit mentions "that tall lady" who brought her to the hospital. If she had been Jeanne, Kit would have recognized her.

BigDemonicBunny 07-16-2011 07:04 AM

So let me get this straight.

Kit = Hellspawn, not redeemable according to moomonism
Jeanne = Technically human and, according to moomonism, redeemable?

Because with those eyes and ears I'd guess she's some other sort of hellspawn.

A Zarkin' Frood 07-16-2011 07:22 AM

I dunno, Jeanne looks pretty irredeemable to me. Boozloaf definitely didn't see her. Then, looks can often be deceiving. There are her words too, though. But this is a comic, could just be a way to visualize Jeanne's total irredeemability. That wasn't a word a second ago, now it is. Unless Matt is playing us for fools by making Jeanne look utterly horrible until we found out that we've only seen her from Kit's point of view, who's obviously biased.

Domestibot 07-16-2011 10:31 AM

Yeah, just based on eyes and ears alone I'm gonna have to say that whatever Jeanne is: Definitely not human.

Kim 07-16-2011 10:32 AM

In the grim darkness of the future, there is only Westerns.
 
She's an Eldar!

greed 07-16-2011 10:39 AM

She looks sort of chunky to me, I'm gonna say like a troll or a ogre.

Bard The 5th LW 07-16-2011 11:29 AM

I was expecting a totally normal and even calm looking human up until now.

Kim 07-16-2011 11:33 AM

Johan Noelle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW (Post 1141692)
I was expecting a totally normal and even calm looking human up until now.

http://baratijasblog.com/wp-content/...7/11/johan.jpg

greed 07-16-2011 11:36 AM

Personally I was thinking of that one time Henry Fonda played a villain in that really good Western from the 70s. Similar idea to Johan, nice looking blue eyed blond is actually horrifying monster.

MSperoni 07-16-2011 11:47 AM

"Once Upon a Time in the West"?

That reminds me, I really need to buy that movie :P

Bard The 5th LW 07-16-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noncon
*johan*

http://www.fitsnews.com/wp-content/u...il-on-head.jpg

greed 07-16-2011 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSperoni (Post 1141703)
"Once Upon a Time in the West"?

That reminds me, I really need to buy that movie :P

Same, wonder if it's on blu-ray. Good Westerns are awesome on blu-ray, the vistas and the cinematography. Damn.

TDK 07-16-2011 04:38 PM

Fatty fat fat
 
Honestly, I don't like Jeanne's appearance. It isn't anything like what I pictured.

Also, she is fat and her horse is fat.

Krylo 07-16-2011 05:06 PM

She's not fat. She's built.

That's muscle size not fat size.

Might be some breed of ogre or some such, given her physical build and lack of irises and what not. Certainly not human, and almost certainly a physically imposing race.

Melfice 07-16-2011 05:43 PM

I know this isn't drawn all realistic, but I'm sure Jeanne's face would have been much rounder if she'd been fat.
Gonna join the camp of that being muscle.

Not sure if she's ogre, or what... for all we know, that's what Kit's gonna look like when she grows up on account of "hellspawn" physically changing over time.
I'm sure it'll be explained as we continue.

Domestibot 07-16-2011 07:11 PM

she may not be fat, it could just be her real boss Jacket.

MSperoni 07-16-2011 09:15 PM

A sketch I posted about four months ago on my Twitpic page. She's actually gotten a tad more muscular since then. Kit's also slightly shorter now.


http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/phot...O3ZaUK7y1WA%3D

Bard The 5th LW 07-16-2011 09:19 PM

Well if it turns out that she is portly, then I must insist that she is Burke's ex-wife.

MSperoni 07-16-2011 09:27 PM

I was gonna draw a picture of Classic Storm from the 1970s X-men comics tonight, but maybe I'll do an updated picture of Jeanne instead.

Melfice 07-17-2011 02:29 AM

I can't actually see the picture.

MSperoni 07-17-2011 03:56 AM

Hmm..well, I guess just click the link to my Twitpic page and scroll down some. There are a couple of sketches with "THE DREADFUL" written on them. They're between a picture of Pang Tong from DW7 and Solid Snake wearing the suit and "Big Boss" (red skull) Mask.

greed 07-17-2011 05:06 AM

I can see the pic
 
Hey, personally I like Jeane's design, not what I expected but it's pretty cool and pretty different. Which is good. On Jeane's picture on twitpic is the really tall woman between her and Kit an early version of Judge Catherine or is she someone new?

MSperoni 07-17-2011 05:48 AM

It's Judge Catherine. She just doesn't have her coat or her hat on in that pic.

BigDemonicBunny 07-17-2011 06:29 AM

I have to say that that Twitpic ("Here's a pic of Kit from a later page of #TheDreadful") is possibly the most awesome Weird West Portrait ever.
Even rivalling the classic Deadlands Cover Art

MSperoni 07-17-2011 09:43 PM

I really should get to making a Dreadful Wallpaper.

Hatake Kakashi 07-18-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSperoni (Post 1141845)
It's Judge Catherine. She just doesn't have her coat or her hat on in that pic.

Man, I can't wait to see her come in and start puttin' foot to ass. Also, your fans demand MOAR cheesecake!

MSperoni 07-18-2011 12:30 PM

Fanservice, eh? I'm generally okay with a little so long as it doesn't turn into Dead or Alive and the situations are believable, as well as in character for the character who gets into them.



Quote:

Originally Posted by MSperoni (Post 1141798)
I was gonna draw a picture of Classic Storm from the 1970s X-men comics...

And so I did. Link

MSperoni 07-18-2011 08:33 PM

Anyone curious to see the line-work for the upcoming wallpaper?

Here

I decided to go with a basic picture of Kit this time around. I can get it done in good time and it's not so complicated as to interfere with the other stuff I have to do this week.

MSperoni 07-19-2011 05:04 PM

Page 41!

I wonder what Kit will do?

phil_ 07-19-2011 09:40 PM

Shoot him with The Dreadful, which doesn't actually kill people, it just fulfills Kit's wishes. Last time, she wished Burke had a giant hole through him. This time, she wishes for the hostage to get away.

All wishes have a rebound counter-wish that comes back to bite Kit in the butt.

Time to come up with a new dramatic reveal, Peroni.

Domestibot 07-20-2011 04:52 PM

Challenge him to a math-off.

ChaoticBrain 07-20-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_ (Post 1142283)
Shoot him with The Dreadful, which doesn't actually kill people, it just fulfills Kit's wishes. Last time, she wished Burke had a giant hole through him. This time, she wishes for the hostage to get away.

Clever. Although if the Dreadful actually worked that way, she wouldn't be so hesitant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanne Noelle
Or stand aside so I can do him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanne Noelle
so I can do him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanne Noelle
do him.

D:

SHOOT HIM KIT, SHOOT HIM! FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS (un?)HOLY, NO ONE DESERVES A FATE SO HORRIBLE!

Krylo 07-20-2011 09:25 PM

I'll bet she's one hell of a wild cat in bed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaoticBrain (Post 1142570)
SHOOT HIM KIT, SHOOT HIM! FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS (un?)HOLY, NO ONE DESERVES A FATE SO HORRIBLE!

...I don't think I'd mind that fate.

Bard The 5th LW 07-20-2011 10:03 PM

He'll be dead by the end of the day either way.

Krylo 07-20-2011 10:05 PM

He never thought he'd die that way, but he'd always hoped.

Loyal 07-20-2011 11:06 PM

She did say she would get creative.

Melfice 07-21-2011 11:15 AM

... well, I guess that explains what race Jeanne is.
She's a succubus.

A Zarkin' Frood 07-21-2011 11:44 AM

I really have no idea why there's such a need to shove a non-human race on every character that looks pretty human except for some features that may simply be stylization.

EDIT: Yeah, a succubus would make sense.

Melfice 07-21-2011 12:50 PM

Define "looking pretty human".

It wears clothes and has learned to read the time on it's pocket watch. As well, it is bi-pedal and has hands: Is this anthropomorphic rabbit a human?

;) (EDIT: I am aware that this is a fairly big jump from weird eyes and pointy ears to full-on anthro-rabbits, but y'know.)

But seriously, the ears and eyes are a good tell that Jeanne is not human.
The same way Kit is not human by way of her horns.

rpgdemon 07-21-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melfice (Post 1142778)
;) (EDIT: I am aware that this is a fairly big jump from weird eyes and pointy ears to full-on anthro-rabbits, but y'know.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melfice (Post 1142778)
weird eyes and pointy ears

How else would you define an anthro anime rabbit?

MSperoni 07-21-2011 04:02 PM

Jeanne's race is... hmm... well, I guess I'll just leave it to interpretation for now.

Her name's very French though.

A Zarkin' Frood 07-21-2011 04:33 PM

I'm biased towards any fantasy race anyway, so it doesn't matter. Call me racist if you wish, I don't give a damn. Elves just aren't real people, deal with it.

MSperoni 07-21-2011 05:59 PM

You should be in The Dreadful's version of the KKK then. If there was one. Dwarf Supremacy! Beard Power!

A Zarkin' Frood 07-21-2011 06:41 PM

If I get a cameo as a racist dwarf I'm not gonna help you translating anymore.
Because fuck dwarfs. >:(

Well... unless I'm also a really bad musician and die in an explosion A big one. But I should also be pretty damn sexy and get all the girls before that. Or maybe not die, but only if I'm redeemable. But not according to that minotaur. Because fuck minotaurs. >:(

MSperoni 07-21-2011 06:42 PM

So the only important cast member you approve of so far is Liz? What about Kit? What about Erin, the non-human bird-lady whom you translate?

A Zarkin' Frood 07-21-2011 07:04 PM

Ummmm... well... uh...
They're okay I guess. :(
But don't tell the Klansmen I said that.

MSperoni 07-22-2011 03:04 PM

Page 42

Kit chooses.

greed 07-22-2011 03:24 PM

Very nice page.

What is he humming?

BigDemonicBunny 07-22-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greed (Post 1143124)
Very nice page.

What is he humming?

You see the distant flames, they bellow in the night
You fight in all our names. for what we know is right
And when you all get shot, and can not carry on
Though you die, la resistance lives on!

MSperoni 07-22-2011 04:38 PM

I dunno what he's humming. I thought of it like a hymn, but I guess it could be anything :)

EVILNess 07-22-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSperoni (Post 1143130)
I dunno what he's humming. I thought of it like a hymn, but I guess it could be anything :)

I pictured Amazing Grace, but I don't suppose that song exists in their world.

MSperoni 07-22-2011 09:58 PM

Actually "Amazing Grace" was the hymn I had in my head when I was working on it :P

Except, like you said, it doesn't exist in The Dreadful world, so I couldn't very well say that's what it was :D


Oh, and if anyone is interested, here is the colored version of my Kit picture. If the image isn't displaying, just follow the Link:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...le-d41cjil.jpg

ChaoticBrain 07-22-2011 10:16 PM

^ Damn, she got a scariness upgrade.

I still stand by my opinion that Kit did the right thing, sparing him from the greasy, toxic touch of JN.

MSperoni 07-22-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaoticBrain (Post 1143179)
^ Damn, she got a scariness upgrade.

Wait till ya see the wallpaper!

Domestibot 07-23-2011 02:15 AM

Don't fret, Bowers Accountant fans; It was a mercy killing.

MSperoni 07-23-2011 04:36 PM

He lives on in our hearts.

BigDemonicBunny 07-23-2011 04:47 PM

For a weird west gunslinger she's remarkably dust free

:)

P.S: I was going to say "cowgirl", but I realized that in a weird west setting that might have unfortunate implications.

MSperoni 07-23-2011 04:55 PM

Kit's no cowgirl! She doesn't work on a cattle-ranch :)

I think she'd consider farming/ranching beneath her ambition. Like if she ended up being simply a ranch-hand she'd be disappointed. However, if she owned a ranch and could boss people around I think she'd be much happier. Except that would require a bit of knowledge about cows and business and I don't think she'd be cut out for that :D

MSperoni 07-23-2011 06:28 PM

It's The Judge!

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...35-d41fgfs.jpg

Bard The 5th LW 07-23-2011 06:37 PM

She IS the law
 
So she's like, Judge, Jury, and Executioner then? Anyways, nice job!

michaelk42 07-23-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVILNess (Post 1143170)
I pictured Amazing Grace, but I don't suppose that song exists in their world.

I'm just going to leave this right here, re: humming.

Tune for Two (2011) (PG-13-ish, sound down at work)

MSperoni 07-24-2011 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bard The 5th LW (Post 1143430)
So she's like, Judge, Jury, and Executioner then?

mmmaybe. The rope also looks like it's been severed. So, maybe she's cut someone down? Or maybe it symbolizes she's both savior/executioner? Maybe I should stop analyzing my own stuff and let the audience find their own meaning? (She's only been in the comic for a single page so it's not like anyone has much to go by).

Krylo 07-24-2011 03:25 AM

Judge Catherine Dredd.

She is the law.

Kerensky287 07-24-2011 12:04 PM

Just saw the new page. Poe is the cutest thing.

BigDemonicBunny 07-24-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylo (Post 1143526)
Judge Catherine Dredd.

She is the law.

Dunno. She might be a more Here Comes The Judge style Judge of Soul. :D
Shorty Long- Here comes the Judge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerensky287 (Post 1143563)
Just saw the new page. Poe is the cutest thing.

Don't you mean Moe. :D
She even has a Hime cut

Hatake Kakashi 07-24-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDemonicBunny (Post 1143573)

Don't you mean Moe. :D
She even has a Hime cut

I get your meaning, but to clarify, her name is Poe.

MSperoni 07-24-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDemonicBunny (Post 1143573)
Dunno. She might be a more Here Comes The Judge style Judge of Soul. :D
Shorty Long- Here comes the Judge


Judge Catherine's song is more along the lines of something like this.

Though, while I was drawing the pic I listened to this a lot...

ChaoticBrain 07-24-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatake Kakashi (Post 1143593)
I get your meaning, but to clarify, her name is Poe.

Poe is Moe.


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