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PhoenixFlame 07-20-2005 05:12 PM

Personally, I'm not going for either of the three at release, mainly because I have yet to finish a good majority of the games I have now, aswell as the fact that I can do most of my gaming on the PC. Consoles seem to be getting dangerously close to PC's nowadays, and I fear that is hurting the PC gaming market, as more developers change over to console games.

Also, I hear the nexgen systems are going to cost in the $450 range. Yikes. I don't have that kind of money to throw around for a game system. Just thinking how much the games for those monsters will cost makes me shiver.

Sky Warrior Bob 07-20-2005 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFlame
Personally, I'm not going for either of the three at release, mainly because I have yet to finish a good majority of the games I have now, aswell as the fact that I can do most of my gaming on the PC. Consoles seem to be getting dangerously close to PC's nowadays, and I fear that is hurting the PC gaming market, as more developers change over to console games.

Frankly, I could care less about the PC gaming market. I mean, pratically the only good PC games are either Multi-Player On-lines, or ports of console games. Which don't always work either, Psychonauts still has majorly buggy movies for me, even after 2 patches, and I'm starting to wonder if a 3rd one will ever happen. PCs don't have universal specs, consoles do. When you make something for a console, you don't have to worry about 150 different video cards, a number of various CPUs, motherboards, RAM types and... well you get the idea.

I also remember a time when PC computing only dealt with the casual gamer, and the computer was tool first & a gaming machine second. There was a lot more variety back then, and because PC games were harder to sell, there usually was a bit more effort made into making them.

If games switched back to consoles, I don't think it'd be a bad thing by any means. It'd push up the quality of PC games, and that's only a good thing IMO.

SWK

Mirai Gen 07-20-2005 08:57 PM

SWK - Thanks for thinking that PC computing isn't as good, presenting a rational viewpoint, and supporting PC gaming at the same time. That was impressive.

I have already slowed so drastically on my gaming right now, I don't see how I could shell out money for any game so far. I have to beat Star Ocean, Xenogears, Baldur's Gate II, Planescape:Torment, and several others, and those are all games two consoles ago.

I've got my work cut out for me.

Adoria 07-21-2005 08:37 AM

I have a sort of sentimental attachment to consoles. PC gaming is great, and a lot of times more fun. But I hate watching a preview for a computer game and wondering "Will my computer run that? And even if it does, will it look like crap?" People complain about a console costing 400-500 dollars, and while I agree that is a LOT of money for some people (including myself), that price is still way cheaper than gaming on a PC. When you buy a console, there are little to no upgrade costs. With a PC, it becomes outdated instantly and in a year or so you have to end up buying more RAM, a better video card, etc. While this does lead to prettier games, it is far more expensive than spending the upfront cost for a console.

MFD 07-21-2005 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFlame
Also, I hear the nexgen systems are going to cost in the $450 range. Yikes. I don't have that kind of money to throw around for a game system. Just thinking how much the games for those monsters will cost makes me shiver.

I had heard somewhere that the Revolution will be cheaper than the PS3 and the 360.

EVILNess 07-21-2005 12:06 PM

My console Plans...

1. As soon as the PS3 comes out, run my little butt out and buy a used PS2 (One of those little mini ones. Oh so cute!!)
2. Buy a buttload of games, specifically RPGs, maybe some of the platformers. I hear Ratchet and Clank and Jak 2 & 3 are good. Pick up any stray games I want for my Gamecube, such as Legend of Zelda, Metroid Prime, replacement of Tales of Symphonia.
3. Wait 6 months, buy a Revolution. Play SSB online. Own all of you with Ness.

Because Ness is unstoppable.

Hunter_Shu 07-21-2005 12:10 PM

Hm.. personally, I'll be picking up the system that gets the best RPGs (Though definitely not at release. Dear Gods, they're minimum of 400, last I saw). Now no offense to Nintendo, but I don't think it'll be the Revolution. It's a really spiffy, new, and different idea, so it's unlikely 3rd party developpers will be attracted to it for long, IMO. I mean, honestly, developping for that controller is going to do the same thing that happened to the DS; Games are either going to just ignore what they have available to them and make you wish they'd just released it on a more standard platform, or they're going to do right by Nintendo's new technology. Neither is going to happen all the time, but I'm willing to bet the former will top the latter.
Between PS3 and X-Box 360, X-Box as it is now has a lesser selection of exclusive RPGs then the PS2. That can change, but I'm not betting on it yet. I'm probably going to wait for a few months, then when the prices come down, rent each for like a week and play the RPGs available. Of course, if Nintendo can pick up some decent RPG company names (Or no names; I just don't want to see Camelot or summat like that in charge), that'll be rented too, I'm just.. again, not betting on it, as it took Nintendo forever to get good RPGs onto GC. All two of them (Groundbreakingly awesome though ToS was).

Sky Warrior Bob 07-22-2005 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen
SWK - Thanks for thinking that PC computing isn't as good, presenting a rational viewpoint, and supporting PC gaming at the same time. That was impressive.

Maybe I wasn't entirely clear, so I'll try to rephrase it. I basically feel that, as it currently stands, the PC market is full of too much crap. I remember the time when PC games had a whole lot more trouble selling themselves, and because of that, they tended to bend over backwards, trying to make games that stood out.

Currently, aside from Multi-player (mostly clones), no effort whatsoever goes into making good PC games. Throwing money at the problem doesn't seem to be helping, or at least I don't see the PC market improving all that much, even with all the Mult-Player games (again, too many of which, are simply clones). Thus, I am of the opinion that turning the PC back into the casual gaming system it once was, would be helpful.

You can disagree, but please cut out the sardonic & sarcastic reply.

SWK

Raerlynn 07-22-2005 12:29 PM

Not entirely true. Effort is being made, but unfortunately people aren't educated well enough to know that Game X sucks. They see the "Guy Game" and think it'll be funny, but its stupid. Or they'll see Extreme Paintbrawl and think "hey cool, something I like!" when its really crap.

People buy these crap games, and can't exchange them. The money goes to people who spend little to no time on their games, but can come up with the coolest license. The consoles are heading towards this trend as well, just a bit more slowly. (Superman 64 anyone?)

That plus consoles tend to be a bit higher quality because developers for consoles know that all the bugs need to be squashed, while PC developers say "We'll fix it in the next patch" (Yes, I'm looking at YOU, World of Warcraft.)

Gorefiend 07-22-2005 01:13 PM

I don't know. Elder Scrolls 4 has my attention, but it and Halo 3 are the only reason I'd get an Xbox 360. The Revolution's relatively economic price and guarantee of certain fun games (SSBM Online) would make me get it, but where I live I'd be one laggy, LAGGY Link on the field, unless Ecuadorian severs are set up. And I haven't kept up with the PS3, but I think it might work out.

Regardless, I'll wait until the system I want is at $200. I'll use the time to figure out which is the system I want. I'll pray and hope Elder Scrolls 4 comes out for PC in the meantime.

And, lastly, has there been news on the Revolution controller? I am ignorant, foolish, and would appreciate the help.


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