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Jagos 07-21-2005 04:05 AM

Old games...
 
I always have fun with games that people no longer care about. Even after all these years. Mike Tyson's Punch Out is still a game that destroys all boxing games of now. Who honestly beat Bald Bull on their first run of the game?

I decided to try this game again and just got my @$$ handed to me by Vodka Drunkenski (Soda to you American pigs! :P )

Something to get people in the mood to play some PO:

GAME OVER!!!

Anyone have some old games that need airing out?

BitVyper 07-21-2005 04:08 AM

Ninja Gaiden is always good for a replay. I've only successfully beaten it twice in my life.

In Hindsight 07-22-2005 12:19 AM

I've been replaying a lot of my old NES titles, though I rarely break out the actual deck. Just finished a run on the japanese version of Castlevania 3 tonight, using nothing but Grant after the clocktower. He's amazingly powerful in the JP version, as his main weapon is the standard throwing dagger that Trevor can pick up, instead of that worthless melee attack he was given in the US release.

Hua Poe 07-24-2005 11:49 PM

Adventure Island, I'll stick with.

What would Hua Poe's life be like without it?

Jagos 07-25-2005 02:03 AM

I've got music to Radical Dreamers. But I've never played the game. Anyone have any details on it by any chance?

In Hindsight 07-26-2005 01:49 PM

Radical Dreamers was basically a text-based game that plays like one of the old Choose Your Own Adventure books. It takes place in the same world as Chrono Cross, and involves many of the same characters (And I think all of, if not many of the tunes from RD were re-used in CC).

It was only released as a download via the BSX Sattelaview network in Japan during the later phases of the SNES' life.

Darth SS 07-26-2005 02:12 PM

It's neccesarily OLD per say but...

Jedi Academy is now, and will probably always be the best Jedi game that Lucasarts is ever likely to produce. It is literally my favorite game of all time.

Carnivore 07-26-2005 03:43 PM

Legend Entertainment's Super Hero Legue of Hoboken is a great point-and-click adventure game that also has a lot of RPG elements (Turn Based Battles). It stars a group of superheroes with terrible powers (Such as being able to see what's inside pizza boxes, or being able to make pie charts.) It reminds me a lot of Nuklear Age, actually.

darth vader wannabe 07-26-2005 03:57 PM

Okay, are we talking about old as in "Birth of gaming" or old as in "the original Half-Life"?

In the former case, Wolfensten 3d. I still have a copy, in box, with manuals WITH COVERS, on 3 1/2" floppy.

If we're talking about the latter, Black and White in my opinion was always a blast.

Mirai Gen 07-26-2005 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheInfernalStorm
Radical Dreamers was basically a text-based game that plays like one of the old Choose Your Own Adventure books. It takes place in the same world as Chrono Cross, and involves many of the same characters (And I think all of, if not many of the tunes from RD were re-used in CC).

It was only released as a download via the BSX Sattelaview network in Japan during the later phases of the SNES' life.

To clarify, SquareEnix (or Squaresoft at the time) Just kind of slapped the Chrono Trigger world into Radical Dreamers to make Chrono Cross. For those who played it, you can tell that some of the storyline (IE, just LOOK at the final five minutes when you talk with Crono, Marle, and Lucca) is stretched thin over the two games.

And yes, Mike Tyson's Punch Out is teh pwnzorz.

Speaking of Teh Pwnzorz....Ugliest, box art ever, most fun 2d game of 1991.

Magus 07-26-2005 06:33 PM

I haven't played Contra III in a while, which is of course the best action game ever.

Of course, I've played Shattered Soldier recently and it's very similar (if not slightly better) so I guess I'm not too hard up for some Contra playing.

EDIT: Well, of course, Hard Corps. was good, but I never owned a Genesis so the one I always played was Contra and Super C and Contra III.

Lockeownzj00 07-26-2005 07:13 PM

I've played through and beaten Radical Dreamers with multiple endings.

Details here.

http://radicaldreamers.sourceforge.net/

I love video-games, and I get nostalgic too, but this also makes me think this "Mike Tyson is better than any modern boxing game" is mere nostalgic nonsense. Games have advanced--there is a big problem with over-commercialisation and the watering-down of products, however, much has been discovered and innovated in games over the years. Modern boxing games have vastly improved upon the mechanics of Mike Tyson, and it merely serves as a "remember those days" romp. Not that old games can't still be (gameplay) mechanically-sound, just that many have been deprecated. I don't see the problem with change.

Well, anyway. I'm replaying through Final Fantasy VI in japanese right now...V too, actually, started that before, but I'm switching between 'em.

Salookanana 07-26-2005 07:41 PM

Radical Dreamers is pretty neat. One of the charactors is a large blue haired wizard who isnt too friendly (WHO could that be?!?!).

You can get a translation patch at neo demiforce but you have to look elsewhere for the ROM.

And old games.... I love the old mario games and the ORIGINAL 8 bit EarthBound. That was never out in the USA. Look for it, called EarthBound Zero. Fun stuff

Jagos 07-26-2005 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by darth vader wannabe
Okay, are we talking about old as in "Birth of gaming" or old as in "the original Half-Life"?

In the former case, Wolfensten 3d. I still have a copy, in box, with manuals WITH COVERS, on 3 1/2" floppy.

If we're talking about the latter, Black and White in my opinion was always a blast.

Old as in games of past generations. Dreamcast, PSX, all are fair to look at and say "I had fun with this game and it's one you should invest in"

darkt0aster 07-27-2005 09:43 AM

I find my old game niche within the SNES era.

Secret of Mana. I just can't get over the fact that it was a brilliant fully multi-player RPG and hardly any games afterwards followed suit. My friend and I spent almost a year playing the game on and off before we finished it. If you've ever played any of the SNES final fantasy titles, try Secret of Mana... and please don't confuse it with the horrid POS, Legend of Mana for PSX.

Rock 'N' Roll Racing. Explosions, racing on different planets, a soundtrack featuring 'Paranoid' 'Born to be Wild' and 'Bad to the Bone', and more explosions. It's simple, fast paced, an enjoyable play and is a blast in multiplayer.

Metal Warriors. I've only played the ROM of this, but it's another great multi-player game (used it to pass the time in those high school computer classes that gave two weeks to do a 5 page power point presentation). Side scroller mech combat with hugely varied 'bot designs. Small fast quick ones, a spider-like one, one that flies, a slow-moving heavy-armor big-gun design, and more. Single player wasn't anything spectacular, but just playing multiplayer round after round with random bot and map selections is highly enjoyable

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Then there's the old PC titles.

I heart Apogee and all they created.

Westwood too. At least, before they got devoured by the beast known as EA. There's nothing quite like playing the original command and conquer and stopping a grenadier rush by running them over with four harvesters :cool:

I also need to pick up playing Nox again. I wonder if there's still any CTF or NoxQuest servers up...

And we must never forget the SCUMM story system that brought us Sam and Max, Day of the Tentacle, and Monkey Island. Damn you LucasArts for nixing the 3D Sam and Max remake.

Adoria 07-27-2005 09:46 AM

I constantly find myself playing or even thinking about N64 titles. I don't think I'll ever get sick of Goldeneye, Zelda OoT, Mario Kart 64, or SSB. NES games also find their way back onto my TV once in a while. Super Mario Bros. 3 is a classic.

Speaking of NES, has anyone hear ever played Chip 'N Dales Rescue Rangers?? I used to watch the cartoon on TV. Even though it is a tv-to-game creation, the game isn't that bad.

And tetris, how could I forget Tetris? The game that never gets old.

Mirai Gen 07-27-2005 12:33 PM

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Speaking of NES, has anyone hear ever played Chip 'N Dales Rescue Rangers?? I used to watch the cartoon on TV. Even though it is a tv-to-game creation, the game isn't that bad.

...but ZOH MY GOD IT WAS HARD!

And on old games...Why can we forget the greatest defender of the galaxy?

Flamehead6544 07-28-2005 04:24 PM

i will stick to my 4 BB party in the original Final Fantasy. you want hard? theres a party with no magical support low defence, and a lot of free cash... all too often blown on revivals, cabins, and potions. well, at least its fun. that, and mystic quest. My brother and I have argued for years wether it is a FF title at all. anybody know?

Jagos 07-28-2005 08:13 PM

Square has known that FF would sell. Mystic quest wasn't a true FF title for other areas. It was a Saga Frontier game if memory serves me right.

Lockeownzj00 07-28-2005 09:16 PM

Oh GOD FF6 is so good...so definitely that. and 5 while we're at it. Let's throw 4 in the mix for good measure.

Yes, all SCUMM games shall be put on a pedestal of perfection. Why did Lucas Arts have to fucking cancel not only Sam and Max...but Full Throttle 2 as well?! Bastards. "Let's make more Star Wars games!" I'm thinking of a word that starts with s-e-l-l o-u and ends in -t.

Shaggy 07-28-2005 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JC123
Square has known that FF would sell. Mystic quest wasn't a true FF title for other areas. It was a Saga Frontier game if memory serves me right.

That's actually the Final Fantasy Legends series of Gameboy games you're thinking about. It was really the precursor to the modern-day Saga system, having the same stat-growth system (or a variation thereof), races, etc.

Final Fantasy Mystic Quest wasn't either, actually. It was basically a "RPG for morons.". Square wasn't exactly convinced that the western world could handle a "real" RPG, so they left the training wheels on and turned out that sub-par piece of programing. =)

Old games, eh? Well, there's always FFIV and VI, Chrono Trigger,and the Breath of Fire series for console games.

For PC titles, however, there are quite a few goodies. Fallout/Fallout 2, System Shock II, BG/BGII, Anachronox (Absolutely fantastic work, and by Ion Storm, no less) Deus Ex, Gothic/Gothic II, etc.

And let's not forget Vampire: The Masquerade, Mage: The Ascension, Demon: The Fallen, Cyberpunk, and Shadowrun here. =)

Tel-Jilad Squirrel 07-28-2005 11:22 PM

Old games, eh JC123.
Well if you ask me, Earthbound was and still is pretty awesome. I will dress up as a schoolgirl and parade throughout Nintendo's offices if that is what it takes to get an Earthbound 2.
I got the Zelda collectors edition with my Gamecube, and I have to say that the original Legend of Zelda is harder than any of the new ones. But Zelda 2 is stupid.
Also, I've been playing Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask with my Gamecube. God, I wish they would bring back MM transformation masks. That was fun.
And for the 64, I still like Perfect Dark. One of the best FPS ever.
Plus, there is that one old wrestling game I have for 64. I still play it and I've even used the create a wrestler mode to make George W. Bush, Saddam Hussein, and Abraham Lincoln as wrestlers. Ah, good times, good times. Next time I play that game though, I got to remember to make Strong Bad as a wrestler.

Jagos 07-28-2005 11:43 PM

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Plus, there is that one old wrestling game I have for 64. I still play it and I've even used the create a wrestler mode to make George W. Bush, Saddam Hussein, and Abraham Lincoln as wrestlers. Ah, good times, good times. Next time I play that game though, I got to remember to make Strong Bad as a wrestler.
WCW vs. NWO World Tour? That one was good... And they put my fave character in there... Kinnikuman! Well, yeah, you had to put him in there and make the stuff but that was beside the point. I can still remember his theme song... If ONLY the N64 could play custom music!

Oh yeah, Kinnikuman!

Solid Shadow 07-29-2005 12:11 AM

Super Smash TV on the SNES. I still play it to this day. Must've beat it a hundred times over. It's fun violence.

Oh, and sorry but I have to take this on:

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Originally Posted by Shaggy
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest wasn't either, actually. It was basically a "RPG for morons.". Square wasn't exactly convinced that the western world could handle a "real" RPG, so they left the training wheels on and turned out that sub-par piece of programing. =)

Nope, nope, and nope.

It's difficult to understand and appreciate FF:MQ unless A) you're a young child or B) you are a parent of young children. When this game first came out I was in my teens. I borrowed it from a friend and played through it. Kinda fun. Yawn. Oh Well.

Last year, when my son turned five, he asked if he could play my old copy. I popped it into the SNES, handed him the controller, and suddenly we were both mezmerised: He at this game which he thought was "really awsome cool" and myself at my son playing an RPG for the first time without having to ask me "what's happening" and "what do I do now" every two minutes.

Squaresoft made and released this game for a much younger audience. The original advertising for the game even said as much. The best example of Square thinking a game was too sophisticated for us gaijens is the fact that they chose not to release FFV in the US until it's rerelease on the PSX six years ago.

Flamehead6544 07-29-2005 10:19 AM

thanks
 
well, I remember it was my second RPG, and me n my bro would play it. We loved tristams music, we would sit there for almost 10 minutes every time he came on screen... good times, before finals, homework, and all that other stuff. But really, the first RPG was one of squares lesser known serieses (SP?)
Super Mario RPG, Legend of the Seven Stars. Who beat Smithy? I want to know! there were minigames galore, and it wasnt too hard for a pair of five year olds... but i digress. I agree that the oldest school zelda was definetly a step above the newer ones, and only because i own a nintendo and the N64 ones, the GC ones, the GBA ones, and the greatest. SNES link to the past.

Staizer 07-29-2005 04:38 PM

Link to the Past WAS the best, by far.


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