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IHateMakingNames 08-01-2005 09:48 PM

Temperary character whose only purpose will be to delay the bad guys.

Name: Jouji
Gender: Male
Alignment: Good
Appearance:
Sex: Male
Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 170
Hair Color: Bald
Eye Color: Brown
Skin Tone: White
Clothing: Monk robes
Skills: Nothing besides your average monk stuff.
Weapons: None
Extra: He's one of the higher up monks.

Dragonsbane 08-01-2005 10:56 PM

So, essentially, IHMN just made another slightly-stronger-than-average mook for us to slaughter mercilessly? I love this part of the RP...

Arhra 08-02-2005 07:15 AM

Hmm, couldn't resist picking apart a certain arguement.

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Originally Posted by Raiden
And Ahrha, you went on the occupied ship. Then, not only did you go on the ship alone when it was full, you basically yelled out your presence by making stuff malfunction. Takin is very experienced. He can tell if something broke from wear, or if someone fucked with it. When you guys sneak on the ship, we're not all going to be on it.

Rather inconsistent that Takin never noticed anything then eh? As I recall, it was nothing like that. Especially since Kirakiri was very careful with his first act of sabotage to make it look like an accident. It was intended simply to keep Takin busy. If Takin was suspicious, he never told anyone.

Besides, Kirakiri was well on the way to accomplishing his goal. One half was acting as a distraction while the other got on with the real work. Had not Artemis been worried about the cannon, it would have gone completely unnoticed.

So basically, Kirakiri's plan still had a good chance of success as he was single handedly staying ahead of most of Team Good's actions. Then you had Kurama wake up and stop everything in a few seconds using an implausible and overally advanced seeming device. See why I'm somewhat annoyed about it?

This new problem is more of the same. Being too heavy-handed with DM'ing can really irritate players.

On a side note, for a bit of heroic defense, you could try using Sila instead of Chiyo. It has a certain appropriateness to it.

Raiden 08-02-2005 04:16 PM

I was considering changing it. Chiyo was just the first thing that came to mind.

And Ahrha, just drop the ship thing. It's not like we can just edit/delete/rewrite all those posts. It's done. Please don't bring it up again.

And yes, IHMN has made a character that's really only going to last this chapter.

Dragonsbane 08-02-2005 04:47 PM

...This question may be horribly offtopic, but it has been bothering me. Which portion of Talkatz's body, legs or torso, includes the pelvis and genitalia?

Furthermore, just how big are these pieces going to be?

Inbred Chocobo 08-02-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonsbane
...This question may be horribly offtopic, but it has been bothering me. Which portion of Talkatz's body, legs or torso, includes the pelvis and genitalia?

I think it would be the legs, because there has to be something holding the legs together. And I also think thats a reason why Radien wants that part for team good.

Dragonsbane 08-02-2005 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo
I think it would be the legs, because there has to be something holding the legs together. And I also think thats a reason why Radien wants that part for team good.

I think you just dissed Team Good. :p

Arhra 08-02-2005 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiden
And Ahrha, just drop the ship thing. It's not like we can just edit/delete/rewrite all those posts. It's done. Please don't bring it up again.

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Originally Posted by Arhra, Discussion Thread #3, Page 7
Now, I'm not saying we should go back and edit every post. I'm just saying we should agree on something that works better here and then say that's what happened instead. Sound fair?

I'm so far ahead of you, it's not funny. In fact, I already suggested an alternative and you still haven't said anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Arhra, Discussion Thread #3, Page 8
Kirakiri managed to set the Raigaki Cannon to explode while Artemix was grabbing Sanjuro. When Artemis gets back, he realises that the cannon is doing the equivalent of ticking ominiously. In the meantime both of Kirakiri's halves head to the top of the ship to wait out the explosion. Sanjuro manages to forcibly open the trapdoor with his brute strength and they eject the cannon seconds before it explodes.*

On discovering that his primary plan has failed and knowing he can't hide on the ship for much longer with everyone searching for him, Kirakiri attempts to destroy some of the engines. Once one begins to act up, everyone heads to the ship's top to stop him. Seeing he's hugely outnumbered and cornered, Kirakiri says some parting words* and hurls himself overboard.

*This is required as a law of narrative causality

Of course, the cannon exploding isn't necessary. Artemis could disarm it instead.

Having this kind of stuff ignored is adding to my frustration. I'm suggesting what seems like a reasonable compromise to me as it doesn't create certain dangerous precedents and having it ignored. As an example of dangerous precedents, if that anti-hostile system is so effective, why don't they create another one that can be laid out on the ground and use it as a trap? Of course, if you can make a clear and reasonable clarification about all of this, I'll be happy to accquise about the ship.

Raiden 08-02-2005 10:42 PM

Alright. I'll be as clear as I can.

The anti-hostile system was created because the ship was intended to be a safe area for Team Good. It's where they have the ability to rest and recuperate from missions. As such, if a hostile of any kind (demon, human, or super annoying insect) manages to make it's way onto the ship, the system can be activated by inserting the Raigaki into a series of wires/tubes/bulbs, and allowing the supernatural light and resonation it gives off to seek out the hostile, and phase it's molecules through that of the ships. By resonating both the ship and the hostile at the same time, they are able to move the molecules of the hostile through the molecules of the ship, effictively moving the hostile outside of the ship, where they can easily be identified and/or terminated. The reason it would have no effectiveness by being laid out on the ground outside is, where are they going to go? Back outside the field? It only moves a hostile THROUGH the object, ie. the walls of the boat. If it's laid outside, there would be nothing to phaze it through, so it would have no effect. Which is why he had the gatling guns lying outside, so that hostiles could not get close. However, the gatling guns that weren't destroyed in the initial battle were left behind, since Team Good had to retreat quickly. Hence, it will be easier for Team Evil to sneak on later to steal the legs after they take the torso, since the guns aren't there to stop them from getting too close.

Also, the system only works if Kurama knows that there is a hostile on board. When Toast's character came to Kurama's door beaten and bruised from when YOUR character attacked him, he knew that there was a hostile on board. As such, he searched for it's aura, and found that it was in two different places. Instead of hunting down both, he decided to phaze the hostile out of the ship. Now, Inbred's character was also a hostile. However, Kurama never knew that he was on board. As such, he was not kicked off when the system was activated.

When Takin checked, he could tell that stuff was fucked with. Like you said earlier, he would have noticed, but kept it to himself. Why? Because everyone knew that there was a hostile on board, and it was kicked off. Hence, there would be no point in telling them what they already knew.

Also, most of Team Good was in a wreck from the previous fight. Those that could still walk would be in no condition to go hunting down a creature that was sneaking around. Except for Sanjuro. But...yeah. I don't really need to explain that.

Is that clear?

Arhra 08-02-2005 11:01 PM

You didn't quite understand me. Giving some sort of reasoning for how something works doesn't cover why it exists in the first place. It's ridiculously advanced for something that two characters who have relatively little knowledge of magic created. By that reasoning, it would be possible for the dedicated magic users, with their subtle and nuanced knowledge of magical energies, to create something even more powerful. See what I mean by dangerous precedents?

Here's a simple question. Could the dedicated magic users create an effect like that? If the answer is ''only with great difficulty", then it probably shouldn't exist. If the answer's no, then it almost certainly shouldn't exist.

Besides, the ship is already a safe place. Kirakiri was able to do what he was specifically because almost everyone was spent from the fight, the ship's defenses were largely inoperative and he'd managed to sneak aboard during that fight. Those mitigating factors should be considered. Normally that ship is supremely secure against anything but a full out assault.


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