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TheBlindMime 08-14-2005 02:14 PM

I would have gone to the temple but mintaro felt protecting the ship was more important, so now sanjuros on the boat and there is no real reason for him to rush back to the temple.

Suzume(lazy man) couldn't have gotten in without a talisman so he had to go back to the ship, which leaves Garud and Pyros standing outside the barrier doing nothing. So yes, some of team good should head on in.

CallmePrismatic 08-14-2005 02:21 PM

If it isn't obvious you guys can control Artemis, what with me pulling out and all. The farthest powerup I thought of was the Raigiki gun and once I pulled back it became kind of obvious that everyone else was trying to make this their own RP.

PyrosNine 08-14-2005 03:01 PM

Pyros is outside of the barrier, without an amulet. Since you guys debunked my mountain-bending-barrier theory, I'm unable to enter the temple. So what am I supposed to do?

As for the temple, a simple edit of the barrier glyph could keep Team Evil from making Kurama incredibly thin underneath the collapsing Temple.

Dragonsbane 08-14-2005 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiden
I had mentioned that members of Team Good should start heading for the temple.

And the reason why it's necessary for Team Good to get the first part is because it's a reason for him to show up and get pissed off at Team Evil. Think about it. The most communication he's done with Team Evil so far in this RP is some wisps in their minds. He's never had a reason to make a personal visit, and he really doesn't have the time. He needs to make preparations for him coming back, there's people he needs to take down, certain demons he needs to make sure are in place. He's very busy. So, if Team Evil gets the first part, he probably won't even consider it a reason to show up. But, if they fail, then he's got a reason to...'motivate' them.

And DB, you're trying to rationalize that technology doesn't show up for quite a while in an RP where there are flying ships, a demon-manned robo suit, many demons, monks that can obliterate things with their fists, and magic can even be found in the dumps people take every morning? This is where you need a little faith. Trust me, you'll see Talkatz's fears when he does his speech.

And Dante, you do what you wish. If you're going to change your character, just post a new profile like Krylo did.

So...no matter what we do, we have to end up looking like idiots in front of our boss? I mean, there has to be a way we can do this while still looking competent. Team Evil is a highly motivated, powerful group...not some band of mooks.

Wait, wait...my point was that magic was still more widespread than technology, not that technology is entirely nonexistent.

PhoenixFlame 08-14-2005 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiden

And the reason why it's necessary for Team Good to get the first part is because it's a reason for him to show up and get pissed off at Team Evil. Think about it. The most communication he's done with Team Evil so far in this RP is some wisps in their minds. He's never had a reason to make a personal visit, and he really doesn't have the time. He needs to make preparations for him coming back, there's people he needs to take down, certain demons he needs to make sure are in place. He's very busy. So, if Team Evil gets the first part, he probably won't even consider it a reason to show up. But, if they fail, then he's got a reason to...'motivate' them.

Whoa hey. So you're saying we shouldn't get the first part simply so Darth Vader can show up and force-choke us? I don't think this is a very plesant thing...

Edit: On second thought...

Not liking Talkatz, In addition to being yelled at by him, and possibly tortured, after taking his summons in the middle of a sortie, to go do something, and then coming back only to be yelled at would go very far towards Koyuki going renegade.

Koyuki has a cunning plan to infiltrate team good. She's going to assume her fully human form (Approved by Raiden, can't weild her sword, loses demon powers, but can't be detected by uber demon-sensory perception), change clothes and weapons, and place herself near team good's airship with a dead demon, making it look like she killed him.

Her wounds won't go away in this form, which is good, because she intends to be found by one of the team good members, and exploit their goodness and caring by saying she's hurt and dying. The only *good* thing to do is to take her in, as she obviously was wounded in combat with a demon.

Anyway, it's cunning, but I don't know if Raiden wants me to infiltrate team good's airship yet.

Dragonsbane 08-14-2005 04:21 PM

Why did all of Team Good just ignore Ayame's efforts to ambush them? Someone, at least, should have been stabbed.

Inbred Chocobo 08-14-2005 04:28 PM

Well Drak got in right before she was ready to pounce, and since I saved Kurama early on, I assumed I was closer to him than Drak was. Then the fact that Kiro went defensive and Kurama was engaged by Raikotsu made it were no one would enter her field of striking. At least thats how I see it.

PhoenixFlame 08-14-2005 04:34 PM

Except that she was poised to strike at the only entrance to the room, y'know? So Drak got in, but Kurama and Kiro, how'd they get past her?

If there was another door, she'd have covered that one, rather than the wire-filled hole in the ceiling.

Inbred Chocobo 08-14-2005 04:38 PM

Well Kurama said he came in first, I thought I was next, and Drak came in last. If there was someone behind Drak, you would've gotten them.

PyrosNine 08-14-2005 04:38 PM

For some reason I think it'd be funny if Sanjuro was extremely revolted by human Koyuki's looks.

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFlame
Except that she was poised to strike at the only entrance to the room, y'know? So Drak got in, but Kurama and Kiro, how'd they get past her?

If there was another door, she'd have covered that one, rather than the wire-filled hole in the ceiling.

They moved fast and she was momentarily stunned by Kurama's sheer awesomeness?

PhoenixFlame 08-14-2005 04:44 PM

... Obviously Ninjas have poor reflexes. The fourth guy or farther? That's pretty weak for being in position to strike ever since we entered the room.

Inbred Chocobo 08-14-2005 04:45 PM

You can blame Krylo, he confused me with his post stating that Drak got in right before you were ready to strike.

Truce 08-14-2005 05:33 PM

While all this is happening, you can all assume Ti is off making a nuclear bomb that will, in the end, leave everybody else dead.

By the way, no matter if Team Evil fails terribly or just barely, Talkatz will definately yell at them. Or, at least that's usually the way it is with those Demon Overlord types.

Astral Harmony 08-14-2005 06:01 PM

Thou speakest truely. Tsubasa's not particularly inclined to give a damn about what Demon Lord Talkatz says. None of the kimonos are. He can huff and puff all he likes, but it's not going to mean anything to my characters.

Toastburner B 08-14-2005 09:10 PM

Like I said in my most recent post, I apologize for not posting yesterday, and as such dragging out the fight between Akimoto and Kirie.

Then again, it was probably a good thing. Any post by me in the mood I was in would involved destruction to the point that even Team Evil would of felt sorry for the general populace.

Working a "Back to School" sale for eight hours will do that to you.

We can end this whenever your want, AB. While I would prefer something a little more on the "stalemate"-y side, I'll let you choose. Just don't leave Akimoto in too much of a mess if you decide to beat him down.

Dante 08-14-2005 10:53 PM

But I don't want to protect Kurama! Everyone protects Kurama! I want to KILL him!

Oh wait, that's what Team Evil does.

It occurs to me that Team Good needs a healer-type. Maybe I should make one.

Astral Harmony 08-14-2005 11:08 PM

Mika's the healer. She's currently working on Rio and probably won't be on the actual team at all so your arguement is still sound.

Rio's body is going to need some exceptional healing, so I'm having a self-serving angel named Yuna the Fallen Wing provide a sexy, blonde homunculus with violet armor to focus as a functional vessel until Rio's original body is fully repaired. That whole process will be complete after the whole ordeal with the temple and the legs just so Rio doesn't get out into the field too soon after being taken out by Vance.

PhoenixFlame 08-15-2005 06:57 AM

By the way, Raiden, you ignored the three Ice knives that Ayame threw at your character from her little position on the ceiling.

Koyuki is in position to get found by a team good person, so that they can fall for her little trick, (As I really don't see any alternative that fits the good motif) and whatever.

Mintaro 08-15-2005 12:54 PM

Just so you know, Vance isn't going to care that your injured, he isn't going to let anyone on that ship he dosn't know until Kurama shows up. As I said before, the only reason Vance works tolerates any of them is because Kurama invited them aboard. Except for sanjuro, he trusts him a little because sanjuro pulled him out of harms way when he was incapacitated.

PhoenixFlame 08-15-2005 01:05 PM

Except of course, Vance is on the ship, so he won't be the person to find me. Secondly, in a feudal society, is it not considered extremely rude to simply leave a noblewoman to die from her wounds, even if you're supposedly "on high alert." Certainly you're not the kind of good that falls for these tricks, which is unfortunate. Hopefully one of you will actually have a heart to exploit.

The whole, "Feh! I don't care you're dying, I'm protecting Kurama!" excuse seems very cold and team evilish.

This is Good versus Evil, not Faction A versus Faction B. Wasn't it you who told us that we needed to fight without honor or compassion because we were evil? This is one of those things.

You see being good requires that you have some moral code to follow, be it honor, compassion, or elsewise. Therefore, you must follow certain *rules* of engagement. Like Lazy guy showed, when Suzume did not shoot Koyuki in the back, or having second thoughts before killing demon children. Failing to follow these rules of engagement taints the reputation of Kurama and his retinue.

Granted, you don't need to take her aboard the ship right away, but acting hostile isn't going to be realistic.

Edit: I now understand that Vance is lawful neutral and not good. ((Thanks DB)) Still, I find such actions atrocious even by neutral standards. I'm sure some of the team good people will agree, as there seems to be this big rift between teams, even OOCly. Kurama however, is expected (required) to assist, as he is a samurai and follows the Code of Bushido.

Mintaro 08-15-2005 01:45 PM

May-haps I should explain this again, Vance was raised in Ireland for the first 20 years of his life. He was then taken to a private island nation populated by the Japanese, but not a main part of the Japanese society. Where he was raised for the next 20 years of his life wherein he was betrayed by his mother where she killed Vance's grandfather, grandmother, and father. He was then taught that life was about him. It wasn't until he began to travel the actual country of Japan that he even learned what honor was. He has a very strict code of honor. Do what he says he is going to do, no matter what. However it is still up to him to decide how to go about doing what he says.

Now he certainly will not stop anyone from tending to her wounds off the ship. He'd even let Sanjuro bring a bed up and out of the ship for her to lay on. But as he has sworn to protect Kurama and is living this out by protecting the ship. He isn't about to take risks for some Random noble woman that as far as he is concerned shouldn't even BE on the island.

PhoenixFlame 08-15-2005 01:48 PM

Ah, but I have the reasons (alibi) created already. However, that single suspicion holds some merit, and I admire your going along with it, since I've just noticed that Vance dosen't have the same moral standings as say... Kurama does.

Down: Yeah... Too bad about that Pyros. I'm banking on Suzume to take the bait, or Kurama later once he extricates himself from the temple.

PyrosNine 08-15-2005 01:49 PM

Pyros is a walking heart, but sadly he's not on the boat. Sanjuro or takin might take the bait.

And I am intrigued about these fallen angels...

Astral Harmony 08-15-2005 02:00 PM

If it was Sanjuro, Koyuki is better off assuming her hybrid form. He'd even give her a tour of all the ship's critical systems.

Demons are not all evil, and Angels are not all good. Just as a renegade Demon is responsible (partially) with the creation of Raigaki, renegade Angels could spearhead evil acts.

Yuna's goal is to rid the world of ugly humans and replace them all with beautiful, flawless, loyal homunculi, creating a perfect society that she can lord over as a goddess where her will is law and she will be worshipped for eternity. Demon Lord Talkatz probably wouldn't like hearing about Yuna's goal, and it is likely they shall fight over the whole thing. Demons aren't the only thing clashing for the vacant throne of the world.

TheBlindMime 08-15-2005 02:18 PM

I think Vance is more of a Chaotic Nuetral who keeps his word. What makes him chaotic is his whims of defending the man he gave his word to.

[edit] Vance only gave his word to kurama after Kurama killed him twice in a fair duel. Thats not the most nobles man's beginnings.

And Sanjuro is moping while watching the ocean he's not scanning the forest for possible allies so he wont be taken in by the new Koyuki.

Dragonsbane 08-15-2005 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFlame
By the way, Raiden, you ignored the three Ice knives that Ayame threw at your character from her little position on the ceiling.

Koyuki is in position to get found by a team good person, so that they can fall for her little trick, (As I really don't see any alternative that fits the good motif) and whatever.

Furthermore, Raiden, since when has Kurama had the ability to harden air? While a current of air would surround the blade as it was spun, unless the air was hardened (via the magic of an Air Demon) as it was drawn in, the blade would get no bigger.

Besides which, the airblades Raikotsu hurled were fairly close in the time they would hit, the upper one being approximately an inch or two ahead of the other. Blocking an airblade with the Raigaki I can understand, but not somehow taking control of it with a little tentacle of light.

TheBlindMime 08-15-2005 02:29 PM

When has hardened air been able to block beams of light?

PhoenixFlame 08-15-2005 02:30 PM

And when have beams of light ever hurt anyone? Just stock beams of light now. Not lasers, UV rays, cosmic rays, ect.

((Secondly, if you'll allow me to explain TBM, denser air is more difficult for laser beams to pass through, dispersing their energy.))

In addition, a return-fire air blade wouldn't be a threat to Raikotsu. He could simply stop concentrating on it, causing it to disperse harmlessly.

PyrosNine 08-15-2005 03:34 PM

(Edit: Oops! Hit send by accident before it was done!)
Since ifrit's now in the fray, if you want to fight him, here's a npc character sheet for reference.

Name: Ifrit
Side: Neutral, in the sense of this particular conflict, but will never stray from the natural order (goodness)
Race: Fire spirit/Mana beast
Age: As old as the Natural world.
Appearance: Think FFX Ifrit.
Weapons: Claws, Fire.
Special Skill: Fire mastery: Can manipulate fire, create fire from his body, can become fire, and can create levels of heat hot enough to melt an entire mountain.

Bully: Despite the fact fire spirits will no longer respond to every whim of his, He can order around weaker fire spirits, though only if Pyros allows it.

History: Ifrit was created around the same time as all the other elemental lords, and was a hot tempered ruler of fire. It was his duty to be an agent of destruction, So that when the world had built itself up so much that it got crowded and unbearable, he would destroy it and allow for rebuilding. Humans often think him to be a monster for his destruction, though few realize they would slowly destroy all life on the planet if he did not destroy their massive cities and forests and leave only a few of each species alive. One day, ifrit met a wandering winged man who had an aura of destruction. Having grown a bit prideful, he was outraged that another fire spirit had approached him without his sayso. The winged man tried to avoid conflict, which angered Ifrit further. The two got to scrapping, Ifrit broke the winged man's Demon cutter, and so the winged man wrestled with Ifrit with his bare hands. Eventually, the winged man beat down Ifrit, and when given the choice of finishing Ifrit off, the winged man relented. Ifrit then realized his fate. He had to bow down to this fire spirit, this winged one known as "Pyros"
Ifrit spends most of his time as a fiery incorporeal spirit that flows about the land. He can be summoned through pacts with mortals, but relishes it little, as the fact he is far more powerful then them, so why should they boss him around? He manifests himself in different forms, some being pure flame, others being more animal-like, some demonic.

Since Ifrit will not do the will of Evil, some may find it weird that Dark Sorcerors can summon a "Dark Ifrit" to do their bidding. This is not a true ifrit, but rather a hellfire beast that is made up of dark destructive wishes of hateful people, Much like the Dark Dragons. Like Dark Dragons, This Dark Ifrit can't stand up against the original.

Ifrit no likey water, and can be halted by summoning water spirits, or a concentrated magic user with water spells. Once Ifrit's been doused quite a bit, he'll be unable to make his presence there until he gathers enough flame to remanifest himself.

Extra: Ifrit is a big boss npc.Team dark members can tango with him and hurt him, but a prolonged battle with him will result in their defeat. And unless Pyros is near, Ifrit will kill them in a brutal manner. Ifrit can't die due to the laws of nature. You can destroy the statue body that he's in, but he's not out for the count until Pyros says he can't fight no more. But don't worry, as Pyros will most often quickly chastise Ifrit for doing any real harm to anyone, which Ifrit has to obey. Ifrit also finds it difficult to do this task when he's being attacked wholeheartedly.

Regardless of who you are, there should still be a moment of "OH shit! Is that Ifrit!?"
Also, feel free to post any complaints or suggestions, I'd be happy to change any aspect of Ifrit for you. Ifrit being npc, can be used in your own posts as long as

A:You don't kill him completely
B: You find him tough customer
C: You don't remove him from sight with just a few blows.

Inbred Chocobo 08-15-2005 03:37 PM

One complaint, and that is that we have a new discussion thread so post that there.


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