whats with the games selling out?
 

anyone notice the lack of bliss we get from video games? do you think that they are trying too hard to sell? does anyone remember the good old gaming days in which a plumber rescued a princess from a horde of flying turtles, fire spitting plants, and evil dinosaur turtles, while eating mushrooms and flowers to grow stronger? what happened to getting blisters from the controllers, and the frustration of mashing buttons? where did it all go!?!?!?

Everything advances, including video games. When I was a kid, I enjoyed Mario Bros. and the other 8-bit games that required a 4-button controller with a single directional pad, but now that I'm older I need more of a challenge. Sure, I can get all nostalgic about the "good old days of gaming" but what's wrong with good graphics, more complex and interesting storylines, deeper characters, and everything else games today have to offer?

And I also don't see how you can say games are selling out...there certainly are some low-quality titles out there, some that shouldn't have been made, but the gaming industry is full of GAMERS who love games enough to at least attempt to make some that other gamers will enjoy.

I (obviously) just don't see this "lack of bliss" from games that you're talking about.

Wouldn't it be nice for a gaming company that made an epic/classic game of awesome proportions to REMAKE that game with kick ass graphics and a more in-depth explanation of what the hell is going on.(and i DON'T mean that Final fantasy anthology stuff, i mean : take FF6 and make it look like FFX) I mean, 89% of all new games that come out are usually ripped off another previous game, so why the hell not?!

I think I understand what he's saying. There's a whole genre of games that, in this advancement, have been left behind. Namely the 2-D sidescrollers (whether they be platformers, shooters, etc. I'm just going to clump them together). Sure, now and then you occasionally see a game like Ikaruga or Contra: Shattered Soldier, that not only is of that genre, but a far advanced form of it, but, most of the time you don't see anything that's a 2-d scroller anymore. Those games were far more challenging as far as hand eye coordination and pure insanity goes than anything I've played outside of them. I'm not sure why... maybe it's because it's hard to design a 3-d game that can not only have that many things on the screen at once, but also have a play control that allows you to deal with them. Eh.

I don't really see the lack of bliss, however. A LOT of the new games are great, and definately fun as hell. DMC comes to mind when I say that... as does FFX (although that's probably just because I just finished it again). I don't think we can really accuse them of selling out... well, maybe just a little (tell me FFX-2 isnt' at least a little fan service?) but this IS a money making market... and they still keep the games good, even if they spruce up the sprites a bit. At least usually.

Really, I mostly agree with Video Drone (as, is seeming to become standard), except that I notice the lack of a certain type of game. Now... I think I'm going to go play gradius.

Sure the games nowadays are good, but i just don't believe that they are as memorable as some of the old ones, i agree with Krylo on the statement about how it really is just a money-making enterprise and also that modern games are missing something. Sure, FFX was good, but i think FFX-2 was somewhat pointless, for squareenix's sake, i hope that the upcoming Star Ocean 3 lives up to everyones expectations.( as for notsellinoutgo8bit's statement, there still is bliss in gaming, just not as much as there used to be)

Well, as with any facet of the entertainment industry, the more popular something becomes, the more people that wish to cash in on it. So, we get more products. And it's unrealistic to believe that every game will be a masterpiece. There were really cruddy games on the NES, and on every other system, for that matter. But now, with how prevalient gaming is in American society now, there are more instances of sub-par games coming out.

It's the same everywhere else, every year horrible books, movies, music, and so forth go onto the market. The best way to deal with it is to not support the entities that create this mediocre stuff, so they'll fade away and leave room for more creative sources.

the whole point im trying to make has been claimed through some of you guys, though it was mostly indirect... do we need better graphics? do we need high-speed something or another moving at 100 gqfs an horu or whatever? noooo we dont... if anyone has ever played Chrono Trigger, FF6, or for that matter any of the final fantasys before 7, or dragon warrior they will know that those games could have you sitting there for hours just watching the 2-D grapihcs. i mean those games have plenty story. and its less confusing than most games nowadays. take for example ff10... that game has a really corny story for the most part. and the battle system... its no challenge. i love the games in which you simply had to get blisters to get far... is there something wrong in that? now dont get me wrong i still like the new games but theyre too easy and too flashy... i really think they have sold out...

How come when anything becomes more lucrative then one thinks it should be, it has automatically 'sold out'?

Listen, I respect your opinion and all, and I agree with parts of it. Yes, graphics may have taken a bigger chunk of the game they it really should, but the games have to evolve with the times, or risk being left out of the public eye. I know that Chrono Trigger is a good game, but would it have gotten such high respects if say, it had come out today on the Gamecube? I don't think so.

The challenge is making a game that's excellent, and that takes complete advantage of the technology that's available at the time.

yes but when i say sold out i mean literally selling out. sega got a huge payoff from nintendo to go bankrupt. what i mean is they were going down the crapper and decided to sell themselves to none other than *gasp* nintendo! o and for another factor, square who was a loyal game maker for nintendo decided "nah we dont like the new system were gonna work for Sony now sppppp" so that got nintendo mad. do you realize that if square had stayed with nintendo there would be no high and mighty ps2. the ps2 would be the equivilant that the gamecube is believed to be. so thats what i mean by "selling out" the fact that i refer to games getting "better" looking for selling out well thats derived from all this behind the scenes stuff not the flashy games which i can do without...

Corporations are corporations. For the most part, they know what they're doing, and that is making a profit. Even in the worst situations, they want to make money. Of course, in these bad situations, that literally means they have to sell out. But you can't blame them. Unless their bankruptcy was completely of their own fault.