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Sprinkle_Death 10-11-2005 05:57 PM

Does anyone think that they screwed up Kakashi's voice?
I do. It sounds too... lame. Especially when he says "My Sasuke?" in Ep 5.

Does anyone think that they are going to change Haku into a girl?
I do. If they can't show two guys kissing, I think they aren't going to allow a cross-dressing male that looks like a female.

Sato 10-11-2005 07:35 PM

What surprised me is they didn't allow the kissing as ya'll say. I read the American translated manga, and the kissing was still there.

No big deal really. Whenever you get EXTREMELY close to someone of the same gender that way, it is still disturbing.

MasterOfMagic 10-11-2005 08:49 PM

Manga generally doesn't get censored as much as Anime (if it gets censored at all). Its not being aired on public television, after all.

I watched this, and the voices just throw me off. Had the way they were supposed to sound in my mind from the mangas, and...yeah. Its not close enough. *shrug* Maybe I'll find the fansubs still for download somewhere...

Aerozord 10-12-2005 05:46 PM

as I said you shouldn't get so hung up on voice acting if you read the manga or saw the subs. Your biast, the voices don't nessicarly suck they just aren't what you expected. I watched the fansub Naruto and thought the dubbed was better or equal, but neither was great.

I am suprised the cut out where Naruto stabbed his hand. It was just such a let down when they did.

MasterOfMagic 10-12-2005 06:07 PM

Quote:

Your biast, the voices don't nessicarly suck they just aren't what you expected.
And that's exactly what I said too... or so I thought. *shrug* I know I'm baised about it, and I'll live with it by watching Fansubs. If I'm able to find a working torrent.

Can't help what irratates my senses.

Krylo 10-12-2005 06:09 PM

Remember, it's on toonami. Not adult swim. Toonami is aimed at under 18. Really they're targetting the audience around 13 years old. The censors say they can't show a lot of blood to kids that age. Although, it IS silly when Kakashi is like "You're going to bleed to death" and Naruto isn't even really bleeding.

Also: I'm confused by the complaints about editing out the kiss. Sure, they didn't show it, but nearly everyone in the class said, in no uncertain terms, that the two did kiss.

...Which only confuses me more to be honest. Why edit it at all if you're still going to tell us that's what happened... but on the other hand, why claim they're horrible and evil and removed humor when all the humor was still there (unless they started making out with tongue for a second and doing som ass grabbage or something equally over the top)?

phil_ 10-12-2005 08:14 PM

I've gotten used to Naruto's english voice now. I didn't really have that strong a voice in my head anyhow. Kakashi's voice I like. He did a particularly good job with the "Now would be a good time to stop the bleeding; I'm serious," line. Just the right amount of aloofness and amusement.

As to the censoring, it's to be expected. Krylo's right, they're aiming at thirteen year-olds. While we can't expect them to show it uncensored, we can be glad that they let it show enough to not be an insult to the series like "One Piece". It won't make anyone hate the show who wouldn't have hated it anyway, and that's all we could hope for--a decent show.

Roland 10-13-2005 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by krylo
Remember, it's on toonami. Not adult swim. Toonami is aimed at under 18. Really they're targetting the audience around 13 years old. The censors say they can't show a lot of blood to kids that age. Although, it IS silly when Kakashi is like "You're going to bleed to death" and Naruto isn't even really bleeding.

There's actually a bit of realism in there. That part of the editing wasn't done simply to appease the censors: if you look at the animè or the manga, when Naruto stabs his hand, blood pretty much sprays out of it.

And even though I don't know how hard you have to stab for blood to fly out of your hand like that, it generally doesn't do that until after you remove the device used for stabbing.

Basically, the editing they do, while done to keep it from being "too graphic", CAN make the show better in the eyes of some.

<_<

Now, comical moments such as that nosebleed from one of the earlier episodes (second?)... hell, that wouldn't have been understood by any of the younger viewers anyways. Older viewers who weren't diehard enough fans to download subs, import, or grab a few manga would scoff at the idea of a man getting a rocketing nosebleed from naked women of all things.

>_>

Oh, and I'm loving the dub. Very much so. The voices are all right, and, hey, it's still Naruto, right? The only thing I'd care about is if they edited the show to the point of cutting out entire episodes, then pasting later scenes before the cut part begins to avoid a dozen or so plotholes.

Fifthfiend 10-13-2005 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Roland
There's actually a bit of realism in there. That part of the editing wasn't done simply to appease the censors: if you look at the animè or the manga, when Naruto stabs his hand, blood pretty much sprays out of it.

And even though I don't know how hard you have to stab for blood to fly out of your hand like that, it generally doesn't do that until after you remove the device used for stabbing.

Japanese people are well known for circulatory systems that keep blood under pressure several hundred times higher than our lazy, low-pressurized American bodies. It's why their electronics work so well.

See Kill Bill v. 1 for further discussion on the topic.

Roland 10-13-2005 12:39 PM

Wow... guess ya learn something new everyday...

Still, I'm enjoying it. Saturday, it's Zabuza, right?

PS: Japanese people? Relax. A lot.


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