OOC: Where are you coming up with these random numbers? And bad numbers I might add...

And Raiden, making things that big and powerful is god moddy, and way beyond your character

ooc: bad numbers? It's a basic equation. 15X-1y=9x; 15x=9x+y; 6x=y. i.e. it takes on average 6 normal troops to bring down a single wyvern.

OOC: Cause you've seen examples of that... And I mean the population... 20:1 seems a bit high.

OOC: Yes, but you pulled those numbers out of thin air in the first place. We have never been told anything of population allocation between kingdoms, how many people a wyvern can kill (and where did wyverns come from?), or any of this other stuff. Both of you are at least partially baseing you arguments on info that no one really has except for Celes. I agree with the opinion of chill until we go to some grand council where the king of Aviona lays out all the facts for us, THEN you can have your big arguments about strategy.

OOC: Someone said Wyverns before... And it doesn't matter, you could replace Wyverns with Avions, since they both fly

(OOC: Yeah, go get some breakfast before Tamakatari eats it all. And IHMN, the weapon doesn't need to be big. Ever heard of a Sniper Rifle? Isn't huge, but can shoot farther than most cannons. Plus, my guy can turn ANYTHING into a weapon. It'll just take longer the more complex it is, and it hurts him, as you could tell from the burns. But, he could do it if he wanted to. Not god-moddy. Nuff said.)

(OOC:we still need to talk with the avionan army officials and king, which will probably start even more arguing, so just save it for then, so EVERYONE can argue together! Oh joy, eh?

And may I mention that somebody has to give a little. Arguing without argreeing or anything is pointless. So even if you don't agree with it, maybe you could make your characters try and argree with each other (heaven forbid) and work together to perfect the plan instead of just shooting down each other's ideas. Just be mature about it. Heaven forbid if it doesn't make a little bit of sense. Does a cat changing into a person make sense? I know there needs to be some sort of order, but this isn't debate class people. Just get along and everything will work out. I promise.)

Cesia watched the area where the white mages and the nurses were taking care of Ark. She was rather glad they had pulled the curtain so she couldn't watch. <I hope he's going to be alright.> She sighed as Gin and Lynx were arguing in the infermary, she looked at them, "Hey... maybe you guys shouldn't argue like that in here. People are resting and doctors are trying to work." She said quietly, she pointed to the door, "I'm heading down with Vace and Tama. Some food would probably be good for you guys as well, since I don't know how long it has been since you've eaten something good for you." And with that, Cesia quietly left the room and headed down to the mess hall. She heaved a sigh as she sat down with the others.

"What happened to Ark? He's not looking very well." Everyone else in the group looked fairly well, but Ark was another matter. If they were going to beat Cid, they needed everyone to stay alive and healthy.

OOC: Cause he knows how a sniper rifle works... Your guy would probably make a random tube of metal with a trigger, then it would blow up in his hands... And anything can be a weapon(Which does not mean your guy can make anything though...). You could kill someone with a newspaper...

Weren't Lynx, Cesia, and Dawn talking to the King and Offical before everyone else arrived?

(OOC:I told you guys she's scary when she's mad.)

Tamakatari looked at Cesia.

"Easy. He got his ass kicked. You're not looking too good yourself. Here, eat this." Tamakatari handed her a roll.

Vace smiled and said, "He ran into the pointy ends of some enemy weaponry I'm guessing, but I'm sure he'll pull through, they have some decent doctors and nurses here, although I would be more asured if Dawn could help heal him. We've done some stupid things, me in particular, but letting himself be beat up by the enemy is one of the dumbest I've seen so far," Vace joked.