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EVILNess 10-16-2005 03:18 AM

Boondocks
 
"Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan is the devil, and the government is lying about 9/11"

I saw a commercial for a cartoon to debut on Nov. 6 on [AS]. I must say, I am interested. It doesn't look half bad, and lord knows its been a while since I have been hopeful for a comedy show.

Any other thoughts? Comments?

synkr0nized 10-16-2005 04:55 AM

I usually am entertained by the daily comic strip, so I should like this.

Aerozord 10-16-2005 11:54 AM

looks interesting, and just to be clear. Is this thing from japan?

Novasol 10-16-2005 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerozord
looks interesting, and just to be clear. Is this thing from japan?

Nope.

Admittedly, I've never really read the comic, so I don't know what to expect, but it's nice that Williams Street is finally getting off their asses and producing something that isn't just a glorified Flash cartoon (as far as I'm concerned, Robot Chicken doesn't count, I loathe that show more than I can possibly express). From what I've heard about the comic though, it's apparently either genius, or far too reliant on slanted race-related humor... if it's the latter, I can't say I'll be doing too much watching of the show.

_mike 10-16-2005 01:16 PM

If you want to read the comic, it's in the yahoo comic section. The only local newspaper I've seen it in is the free, liberal one in Richmond that has a tiny office right next to the bigger, expensive conservative paper's office. What I'm trying to say is that it's not for everyone's taste, but it appeals to an intelligent minority of the public, and that's usually a good thing.

Raiden 10-16-2005 01:23 PM

It's in some Newspaper in Wisconsin. Don't know the name.

It looks like a comic I might enjoy, but if it's one of those shows where it's this little liberal kid that thinks he's smarter than everyone else because he's a liberal, then Raiden's gonna have to choke a bitch.

CallmePrismatic 10-16-2005 01:34 PM

Boondocks runs in my paper (St. Pete Times). Its basically the Chappelle's Show of comic strips, very funny, good stuff.

I'm hoping they can pull it off in anime-esque form though. Most of the strips are very 'news oriented', much like South Park, and I'm interested to see if they can pull off just general Family Guy-y stuff.

The basic world synopsis can be found here.

Elmer J. 10-16-2005 03:08 PM

Although I think my "infringement of Civil rights" sense tingles far too much, This is one of the few publications of any sort which hinges on race humour that I don't feel bad reading.(being an over-sensitive liberal white guy)

Red Fighter 1073 10-16-2005 06:20 PM

i read a few comics on google, and it is pretty funny. the jokes DO kinda tend to be a little racist at times, though they still are quite good.

also, AS didnt make Robot Chicken. it was another creation of Seth Mcfarlane, the "Family Guy".

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but it's nice that Williams Street is finally getting off their asses and producing something that isn't just a glorified Flash cartoon
thats really true. the ones theyre making now are just horrible and really do seem like flash cartoons..

as for me, i think ill try this show out. i think ill probably like it. if there really are mostly jokes about racism, i would still like the show. atleast it isnt jokes about sex. thats why i stopped watching Everybody Loves Raymond.

ehh, just for better impressions, ill post some comics i found on yahoo.

http://aalbc.com/authors/images/boondocksstrip.jpg

http://www.asne.org/images/boondocks4.jpg

Aerozord 10-16-2005 06:28 PM

whats wrong with flash? I mean South Park is flash...well poorly done flash if you look at it. I mean its just another form of animation

IHateMakingNames 10-16-2005 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Fighter 1073
also, AS didnt make Robot Chicken. it was another creation of Seth Mcfarlane, the "Family Guy".

It's Seth Green, not Seth McFarlane.


Anyway, I am going to assume this is good since it is on adult swim, and I enjoy the majority of their shows.

However, is it going to be a 15-minute thing, or 30? I would think 15 since it comes from a comic.

CallmePrismatic 10-16-2005 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerozord
whats wrong with flash? I mean South Park is flash...well poorly done flash if you look at it. I mean its just another form of animation

Actually, in an interview they did I believe they stated that they use the same technology utilized by the Final Fantasy: Spirits Within guys, they have to try and make it look like crap.

IHMN: I actually think its a full 30 minutes, in the weekend they were supposed to start it they had a 30 minute block whiled away that had to be filled up by Family Guy re-runs.

I'm a fan of the comic for the same reason I'm a fan of Chappele's Show and its ilk: it makes fun of something it knows. To get a pretty good handle on how 'bad' the stips can get towards black sterotypes, try to find the series of strips on Russel Simmon's Apprentice ripoff (fake of course). The first challenge, if I recall, was to come into the office at nine in the morning, a feat which apparently eliminated half of the competitors. If they can include that sort of thing into the cartoon, I will be thoroughly satisfied.

Red Fighter 1073 10-16-2005 07:52 PM

Quote:

whats wrong with flash? I mean South Park is flash...well poorly done flash if you look at it. I mean its just another form of animation
well, actually i shouldnt say that flash cartoon is bad. what i thought was being mentioned was that flash cartoons are of a bad quality or just horrible, so i kinda used the wording in that context. what i meant was that most AS-created shows tend to be poorly done with horrible animation. just look at 12 oz. mouse. that show looks horrible, atleast by what ive seen in commercials.

synkr0nized 10-16-2005 10:07 PM

Ha ha "is this from Japan"


It's certainly got a specific political orientation, but I find there to be enough humor for other reasons that I expect it to reach a fairly broad audience.

Intern Nin 10-16-2005 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by synkr0nized
Ha ha "is this from Japan"


It's certainly got a specific political orientation, but I find there to be enough humor for other reasons that I expect it to reach a fairly broad audience.

Well, from the look of how the show was animated, it did look like it was from Japan. Heck, if I never read or heard about the comic strip before I would have thought the it was from Japan too. The comic's also in the Sacramento Bee. It's pretty funny, I really liked the strips the strips before Chrismas when the kids were talking about a rumour that Santa was shot down over the Sea of Japan.

Jeneralissimo 10-16-2005 10:56 PM

"Boondocks" runs in the Philly Inquirer. I've known about it for years. Hopefully the cartoon will be good as well.

plustax101 10-16-2005 11:16 PM

I like boondocks. Witty.

Novasol 10-16-2005 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerozord
whats wrong with flash? I mean South Park is flash...well poorly done flash if you look at it. I mean its just another form of animation

Because it's amateurish and slows a lack of effort on their part in terms of quality. There's nothing wrong with having a show or two that emphasize a low-budget stylistic difference, so long as they make good use of it, but when fully 2/3rds of your non-anime lineup can be done by any random shmoe with a copy of Flash MX, it becomes a problem. 12 Ounce Mouse, for example, looks like it was done by a 6 year old, which does NOT speak well of the kind of humor one might expect from the show.

Aerozord 10-17-2005 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Novasol
Because it's amateurish and slows a lack of effort on their part in terms of quality. There's nothing wrong with having a show or two that emphasize a low-budget stylistic difference, so long as they make good use of it, but when fully 2/3rds of your non-anime lineup can be done by any random shmoe with a copy of Flash MX, it becomes a problem. 12 Ounce Mouse, for example, looks like it was done by a 6 year old, which does NOT speak well of the kind of humor one might expect from the show.

12oz. mouse is not flash, if anything its MSpaint.

Now you have to know when a show is poorly animated, or when they want it to look like that. South Park uses advanced technology but they want the appearance of a poorly animated show.

Besides the Sunday line up isn't about high quality intriguing shows. Its about pure comedy. When you see a man shooting taco's out of his torso that blow up the janitor, your not laughing because it was clever witty and well drawn. Your laughing at it because he JUST SHOT TACO'S OUT OF HIS CHEAST! If anything most of those shows would be less funny if drawn well.

Now back to Boondocks, Chepell show had something that made it ok. You knew it was a black guy making black jokes. I agree it's racist to think that if he was white it would suddenly be offensive, but we all know how the censors can be. Since it's animated you don't know who is writing this so some people might think it's offensive.

I just hope some beurocratic moron doesn't kill what could be an excellent show.

CallmePrismatic 10-17-2005 05:03 PM

Assuming the guy writing the comic strip continues writing the cartoon, a black guy will be writing the jokes.

But, Chappelle's Show had white writers, as seen in the "Who Knows Black People?" sketch. I believe that Chris Rock's show also had white writers. If people are going to exhibit umbrage at this show they're coming to the party a tad late.

Premmy 10-19-2005 01:08 PM

I kinda like that kid, he reminds me of myself (or maybe he jsut looks ad talks like me)
This could be most excellent.

Mike McC 10-24-2005 03:56 AM

Just for clarification, just because something has an anime look does NOT mean it's made in Japan. And really, this is a cross between a standard anime look and a european animation look. The same style that's used in totally spies.

Anyway, from what I've heard from a person who saw the screeners, the cartoon so far is a lot less political than the comic strip. And is closer to a standard sitcom than one would hope. But the guy tends to be realyl harsh, critically. I'll have to wait and see, myself.

Aerozord 10-24-2005 07:39 PM

I believe you should always watch two episodes of a show before making a judgement. Two because you might catch the show on a bad episode of a good show, or an exceptional episode of a bad series

Novasol 11-05-2005 12:36 AM

Okay, I just watched the premiere episode (they had it on Friday Night Fix, for people who wanted to watch it online).

I laughed far more than I expected I would, pretty much through the whole thing. Furthermore, the bumps about the show were pretty much right - I can only imagine that the standards and practice guy for Adult Swim shat himself when this came across his desk.

Premmy 11-07-2005 01:56 PM

"See what had happened was"
"This nigga went and got a raincoat"
Most excellent

phil_ 11-07-2005 03:36 PM

Everything that Wansler's grandson said and did was hilarious.

The whole "so well spoken" thing was great too.

Also also, the next episode will, in some form, mention the R. Kelly mess, so there's still some of the cultural comentary form the comic, just six months late, as production times are kinda longer for an animated cartoon than for a static one.

Intern Nin 11-07-2005 11:47 PM

"Da f*** y'all looking at?!" The whole show cracked me up. The way those white people didn't mind being told the truth, Riley shooting Wuncler's grandson with a shotgun, and Wuncler's comment about the guy with the screwed up expression and Icy-Hot. That was the funniest cartoon period.

Premmy 11-08-2005 07:31 AM

God I felt for Huey, when I was Little, I used to hate my teachers and tell them so, just with four syllable words and they either did the same thing they did to him or thougt I was using curse words

phil_ 11-09-2005 07:54 PM

Like I said, the "He's so well spoken" thing was so true it hurt. There's a great deal of folks who can't understand that being black doesn't make you dumb. Making fun of these people = teh funnyz.

The bumps for episode two have me excited! It seems that the R. Kelly trial wil be at the center of the episode, along with the Boondocks-style celebrity caricature that readers love.

The SSB Intern 11-10-2005 10:47 PM

White guys can be calm down with cheese. Intern Nin is living proof. The dude likes cheese like a crack-head likes herion. no, seriously he injects into his bloodstream.

The funniest part was when that crazy white dude got shot with a shotgun.

Lockeownzj00 11-12-2005 05:37 PM

It also stars a black person--nay, multiple black people. Definitely not from Japan.

From my foolish thread in general:

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I read the comic off and on, but I always thought it was brilliant--and now there's a show on Adult Swim.

Well, I downloaded it, and I'm pleasantly surprised--it's great.

My favorite part was when they're at the rich party and the white woman whispers to the other white woman, "I think the n word is okay if they say it," and start clapping. I must show my madre.

Anyone else seen it? Thoughts?
Also, I like the totally fucked up drug analogy.

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The dude likes cheese like a crack-head likes herion.
Yes, my friends--not only do crack heads, contrary to popular belief, not smoke crack, but mainline dope, they use a special kind: herion. Sometimes spelled Harry-on, Harry, or just the big H-H. Yes, I love my crack heads who like heroin, my potheads who love speed, and my shroom heads who love alcohol. Unless he's speedballing (which would be with just straight coke anyway), t'ain't no sense in the analogy.

Yeah, I'm way too anal about this shit. *shrugs and mumbles about lack of drug education*

ps: the author is definitely not racist. Ever seen All in the Family? When will people learn that the characters writers create != the writers?

The SSB Intern 11-12-2005 05:58 PM

I don't understand the analogy myself. He described his addiction that way while snorting pramesan; I just wrote it down.

PS: herion-head sounds stupid.

ApathyMan 11-12-2005 08:09 PM

Also from the other thread ---

Finally... a new show on Adult-Swim with humor that is actually "witty" and has some semblance of "intelligence" backing it up...

... *coughsquidbillies12ozmousecough*

It'll probably be my third favourite non-anime original show on their network (first being Venture Brothers, second being Aqua Teen Hunger Force)... of course, only one episode has been aired, but my expectations were (and still are) quite high.

I look forward to a long life for the Boondocks...

gurusloth 11-13-2005 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The SSB Intern
PS: heroin-head sounds stupid.

Well, that's probably why they call them junkies. Or you can go with smack-head.

The_Phat_G 11-14-2005 03:27 AM

"Are you aware of the extent to which niggas love R. Kelly?"

I have to say, this episode was definately a good follow up to the premiere. It looks like this series will not disappoint.

phil_ 11-14-2005 12:34 PM

They had Mr. DuBois! In the second episode! Jazmine too, but she didn't have a speaking part and I just don't like her as much as her dad. DuBois had a great storyline last christmas (right before Ruckus as a mall Santa), and it's great to see him so soon. It's like... they actually let Aaron McGruder have control of the series. That's unheard of, isn't it? Letting the creator of a comic control the cartoon? Craziness.

Now where's Ceasar?

Premmy 11-14-2005 01:22 PM

This is oficially the best show ever in my book, I will now and forever more refer to Huey as
Clarence Bernard James Louis Anderson the 3rd
because he is me, end of story

Red Fighter 1073 11-20-2005 05:51 PM

here's something cool i found while i was kinda bored..

anyway, i found out that the white soldier who was fighting in iraq was voiced by Charlie Murphy of Chappelle's show. It was the guy who was shot by Riley in the "Garden Party" episode. another cool thing i found was the fact that Charlie Murphy is actually Eddie Murphy's brother!

didnt know that..

Raiden 11-20-2005 05:57 PM

Ooooh, this won't end well for me.

I was watching the Boondocks with a few of my friends, one of them being black. Now, we were beginning to feel uncomfortable, but he was getting angry.

He was upset that this show comes off saying that black people are better than white people, and then they go and show an episode that shows how biased black people can be.

Yeah, I'm going to be careful about what I say for the next few weeks.

Tyler-The-Wizard 11-20-2005 10:47 PM

One name: Adam West.

"America urinated on R. Kelly!"

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Intern Nin 11-20-2005 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiden
Ooooh, this won't end well for me.

I was watching the Boondocks with a few of my friends, one of them being black. Now, we were beginning to feel uncomfortable, but he was getting angry.

He was upset that this show comes off saying that black people are better than white people, and then they go and show an episode that shows how biased black people can be.

Yeah, I'm going to be careful about what I say for the next few weeks.

I think the point of that episode was to show that if you're a celebrity with about a million dovoted fans you can get away with anything, not that Black people are biased.

Premmy 11-21-2005 02:07 PM

It was showing that black people Aren't better or worse we have the same faults
I'm going to stay out of any further discussion of this subject because I'm a
semi-militant (think post- Mecca Malcom X)

Anasatsu 11-25-2005 07:37 PM

Since it has aired i have been pretty impressed with it. It has come to the top of my "to watch" list.Before i hadn't known about the comic though.

Red Fighter 1073 11-26-2005 12:06 AM

"Watch closely, you are about to experience a n**** moment."

man, this episode was really funny. that whole concept of the "n**** moment", and the fight was hilarious. (Adult Swim Friday Night Fix)

even more, they had Inspectah Deck in it.. (huey's dream..)

yeah, i would say that this episode was good.

EDIT: i also love the part when SPOILER: the two guys are shooting each other but actually dont end up killing each other. just as they make up and stop fighting, two white police officers come up to them and shoot them dead.. isnt life swell?! :sweatdrop

Burkion 11-27-2005 01:50 AM

You know WHY R. Kelly got off Scot free, with NO punishment what so ever? It's not because black people love him. It's becuase his lawyer was FRIKKIN ADAM WEST! That man is God.



And I may look white, but according to that show, going by all steriotypes (Not just on that show either) I'm some kind of alien not yet discovered cause I don't act like anyone...and I have a feeling that the second I try to sing that song from the first show, a bunch of black people are going to come out of the ground and maul me...

Premmy 11-28-2005 01:28 PM

Man I hate nigga moments , Luckily, although surrounded by them I always walk away

8 Man 12-05-2005 01:37 PM

After last night's episode, all I can say is, "Tom Dubois is nobody's bitch."

Tyler-The-Wizard 12-11-2005 12:21 AM

Samuel L Jackson! Is he in everything now?

synkr0nized 12-11-2005 02:46 PM

I can't say for certain, but they sure threw in enough Pulp Fiction references or direct quotes to make sure you knew who it was.

The_Phat_G 12-11-2005 03:26 PM

Wait, was that seriously Samuel L. Jackson?

8 Man 12-11-2005 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Phat_G
Wait, was that seriously Samuel L. Jackson?

Yes. Yes it was.

SAY WHAT ONE MORE TIME, I DARE YOU

Premmy 12-12-2005 02:24 PM

I would like to say a few thing's
"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence"
truly beautiful, and Most excellent
and GangstaLicious anything with Mos Def I love
If I had saw HHGTTG I would have liked it despite how m,uch it was supposed
to suck. and the part with the kiss and
"Hello world this is Sway and this,is my inexplicable headwrap"
the disclaimer is exactly the kind of thing you need to do when adressing ignorant gangsta rappers.

Red Fighter 1073 12-12-2005 06:30 PM

yeah, so I am guessing that Samuel L. Jackson was that weird red hair guy with the cornrows?? now that i think about, it DOES sound like him.

ok, onto the Gangstalicious episode. I really am not sure about this one.. Did Mos Def end up playing as the rapper Gangstalicious?? it seems that way. though, it doesnt quite sound like him Though, i gotta agree that Mos Def freakin rocks.

the episode did a perfect job of expressing the poser kind of guy. but, the whole gayness kiss thing kinda was stupid.

though, the part where that black janitor sees the three hitmen and shitted himself was hilarious.


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