DC Angels
 

Ok, I know that Spectre is an angel in the DC universe, but what about Supergirl/Matrix and Azrael? Are they angels as well, or do they just have angelic powers? Are there any other angels of God in the DC universe, and does God ever speak? Also, can the spirit of vengeance be defeated, or will God just bring him back? Does God even accept what Spectre does? Also, I heard that there are Roman gods made by Darkseid, or something like that. What's up with that? What mythological gods ARE there in the DC universe. I know there's greek, roman, and the biblical God, but what others are there? Is there Chernabog?

Superwhatever is officially an angel, so is Azrael. There's an entire heavenly Host, but no others (that I know of) that are really important as characters. The Spectre can be beaten, he isn't invincible, although presumably God would reincarnate him or find him a new host or whatever.

As far as mythological-type gods, mainly there's the Greek/Roman gods, mostly there to be pains in Wonder Woman's ass, and the New Gods, who live on New Genesis and Apokolypse, who were created after the destruction of the Old Gods, the Old Gods basically having been the Norse pantheon. Occasionally they've shown other pantheons, I forget which ones though, Japanese and Hindu, possibly. They've occasionally mentioned Rao, who was the god of Kryptonian belief. That's about it as far as I know.

I heard somewhere that there were these 3 angels: Matrix, Azrael, and someone else. Does anyone know who that is? Or am I making stuff up, lol. Ayways, I know Spectre always just gets a new host or is reincarnated, but that's because his spirit wasn't defeated, right? Can Spectre, the SPIRIT, be destroyed? Also, I never knew that the old gods were from norse mythology, thanx for the info. Some more questions left, has God ever talked? And has there ever been any Ukrainian gods, like Chernabog? Also, just for fun, who is more powerful, the spirit of vengeance or the spirit of fear?

Werl, as far as God talking, not as far as I know. DC doesn't even really refer to him/her/it as 'God', it's always the 'Source' or the 'Presence' or whatever, more an all-pervasive power that guides everything than any actual embodied being (Kinda like the Force, but with a consciousness? Eh, it's weird). To the extent that the Source has anything to say it tends to do so through the angels.

On the Spectre being outright destroyed -- I mean there's no saying for certain, since he's never actually been destroyed. It would probably be possible, if you ever read Sandman it would probably work like when Dream was killed - the actual entity would be destroyed, but some new embodiment of God's Vengeance would come into being.

Side note - Just remembered, it's not Azrael, it's Zauriel, Azrael being that guy who replaced Batman after the whole Bane thing.

Yeah, that's what confused me, cause I had heard that Azrael was an angel. Zauriel makes much more sense, lol. Thanx for all ur help, man. I guess a mod can close this or something

No problem, it was an excuse to dredge deep into the geek reserves.

Eh, there's probably a worthwhile conversation to be had about the cosmology of the DC universe (you know, as long as it didn't become about religion in our universe).

If not then this thread will sink into obscurity on its own.

The Spectre is a weird charecter, and its even more odd to me that Hal Jordan is the Spectre... er... was?

I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYMORE!?!?!

One thing that always got me was that all the gods from all the religions could all
exist in the same universe The biggest thing about religous conflicts is that, in some cases, only one can be right. God could'nt have created the earth if the greek creation story (can't remember did chronos create it?) is true. but they all coexist
like nothing's wrong in DC and aliens and alternate dimensions, and Pheonixes

Hal's not the spectre any more. Supposedly the unchained spectre is causing any amount of chaos in some miniseries that I didn't bother paying any attention to, which I guess will happen.

Whatever, at least they haven't deus ex machina'd 99% of their characters out of existence for no discernable reason other than making crazy-ass Chris Claremont happy.

This is how DC presents it;
There's God. One God. THE big man. This is primarily the judeo-christian concept of God, although they never really specify (intentionally).

Then there's the quintessense. Beings with 'God-like' power, some even granted said power BY God. The Spectre is one of those. Zeus is another. Shazam! The wizard guy is one also, and then there's a Green-Lantern type guy, and the other escapes me at the moment. But there's five of them, and they all hold some kind of cosmic power. Spectre is arguably the most powerful of these beings.

Then there's a plethora of immortal lesser gods ala Greek (amoug other) mythology. They are largely magic-based I think, but that could be wrong.

So basically DC is just being all-inclusive.