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Kurosen 12-28-2005 11:57 PM

Episode 641: "You guys never thanked me for that."
 
As Red Mage would say, "DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNN".

ZAKtheGeek 12-29-2005 12:01 AM

RM will survive, thus showing that he has changed class.

Booyah!

The Wizard Who Did It 12-29-2005 12:03 AM

Brian... well, people were getting antsy as to when the Hadoken would be used... wow.

Either RM goes to hell and sees Kary or the Geek's right and he will live to show that he has class changed.

Another thing... shoe sandwiches?

Kalbelgarion 12-29-2005 12:03 AM

Holy Crap! It's as if Red Mage were still alive and wit'us today! First Prize!

M'eh!

...Yeah. RM's okay. I hope...get up, RM. Get up and yell at me. please...

Of course, with that, I'm sure BM just tore up the Deathtrap, causing it to fall to the ground...again...

Cukeman 12-29-2005 12:08 AM

When I saw that BM Hadoken'ed Red Mage I started laughing, then choked on the popcorn kernal that was stuck in my mouth about 2 hours ago.

And exactly what are shoe sandwitches?

Carnivore 12-29-2005 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cukeman
And exactly what are shoe sandwitches?

Sandwiches that are made of shoes. Dur! :3nod:

talse 12-29-2005 12:17 AM

oh no! redmage, dead?

linguo: redmage is dead!

MetalPsycho 12-29-2005 12:20 AM

Oh crap.

Really, that's all that needs to be said about the end of that comic. That is such an "Oh crap" moment it isn't even funny.

The Wizard Who Did It 12-29-2005 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalPsycho
Oh crap.

Really, that's all that needs to be said about the end of that comic. That is such an "Oh crap" moment it isn't even funny.

Actually, it's hilarious. :D

On a serious note, this gives a bit of backing to Satan's Onion's theory. IF RM dies, then what? Will WM have to join as the 4th light warrior? Actually, that makes a bit of sense as she was the other potential for that position in the first place.

However, if RM does not die, how did he do it? Chances are, just because he's class changed doesn't mean he could survive the Hadoken. Then BM's class changed too, and he could easily kill RM.

So he thinks he rolled a one and missed?

Nico 12-29-2005 12:26 AM

Shoe leather has historically been boiled and consumed when groups have been starving. It's that lovely step right before canibalism.

Ren Cossack 12-29-2005 12:31 AM

I predict that RM will try to make a reflex check, the Hadoken will then bounce off the dice, & tear through the deathtrap's ceiling, thus saving RM, & then placing him & th other LW's in Danger. Or RM will die & WM will either replace him or revive him. Or something completely different might happen, which is altogether more likely. But since I said it was more likely it is now less likely, but saying that makes it more likely etc...

I'll post again when I stop confusing myself.

Dant 12-29-2005 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ren Cossack
I'll post again when I stop confusing myself.

Hmm... That means you won't be posting anymore? :p

Carnivore 12-29-2005 12:42 AM

Wait... Hadoken shot at a member of the team...

http://nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=040626

Panel 3.

FlyingCow371 12-29-2005 12:46 AM

Perhaps now it'd be time to see how all the other characters are doing, thus maintaining suspense as to the attack's effects. Or maybe RM will just die, though maybe WM would be able to make him better. If WM accidentally became the creator of the universe, would she need any external force to enable her to class change?

Rock Crystal 12-29-2005 12:54 AM

Oh dear. RM's hat is NEVER going to recover from this. :D
...wait a minute. Did I actually say something smart for once? The hat WAS the one on BM's Death list, not RM himself...

Xlash 12-29-2005 12:56 AM

While I agree that RM surviving such an attack would be proof that the class change did indeed take place, I think the others would simply see this as his constant reworking of his character sheet. I know that every character has always been just as strong or weak as needed to make the given situation funnier, but I think that the fact that RM can somehow change his strengths/weaknesses at will would be expected by the other guys by now and not seen as anything new. So while this would be proof to us readers it would fall on deaf ears from the others.

If that made any sense I'll be shocked.

wolfboy1988 12-29-2005 01:03 AM

YAY FOR THE HADOKEN! When was the last time the Hadoken was actually used? I sorta....forgot.

Major Blood 12-29-2005 01:09 AM

Well its about DAMN TIME that the hadoken is used. It seems like forever since it was last used.

Astrobot7000 12-29-2005 01:14 AM

What I dont understand is how exactly Red Mage ruined the class change. What did he do to spoil it? It seems to me as if they jsut got shafted because Bahamut is a jerk.

Kurosen 12-29-2005 01:43 AM

I think Black Mage's point is that the whole quest, which Red Mage was a huge proponet of, turned out to be a sham. With nekkid dragons.

Quirriff` 12-29-2005 01:52 AM

I was extreamly supprised to see BM hadoken then, when they are in the airship (now probabbly due to the hadoken a deathtrap). I was more expecting a Stab in the Head.

PyrosNine 12-29-2005 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrobot7000
What I dont understand is how exactly Red Mage ruined the class change. What did he do to spoil it? It seems to me as if they jsut got shafted because Bahamut is a jerk.

And it wasn't the light warriors who got shafted, but rather Matoya. But I will agree with you on Bahamut being a jerk. A jerk with an eye for blind old witches.

Red Mage won't die. He's too much a part of Kurosen, with Black Mage being his evil and destructive side, and Red Mage being his nerdy rpg loving side.

And I don't think white mage would be swapped in. She's not dysfunctional in anyway. Otherwise, the Light warriors might get by with more than just dumb luck and cheating.

Nucleus 12-29-2005 01:57 AM

How exactly any of them are going to survive that in the middle of the Deathtrap, I have no idea. Maybe a Wizard will do something.

Warlock 12-29-2005 02:32 AM

WOOT! The return of the Hadoken! And, thankfully, it got RM straight in the face. God I've been waiting for him to do something like that for a while now.

The Truth Is In Here 12-29-2005 02:37 AM

WM is coverd in BB's blood remember or is running from globes of BB's brain blood, blood from the brain, and Krosen knows what is going to happen less his change of mind roll is high.
RM is boarn to fight dinosors he could probly take a hit from a nuke
BM is going to be sorry if I know Brian then the LW's will fight a big scarry thing *caugh*giant*caugh* without a hadoken

Whetstone 12-29-2005 02:55 AM

the hadoken ._. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's back and more glorious than ever!!!

The Wandering God 12-29-2005 02:55 AM

I'd just like to point out that RM managed to survive getting eaten by a fire dragon. I'm sorry, but to me, that's a bit harsher than a hadoken.

What I think is going on here is a run-up to a display of power from...

Fighter. Intuition tells me that some white magic is needed. A class changed Fighter would have access to white magic.

Or maybe RM really is going to bite the dust. That would suck.

The Wandering God

Whetstone 12-29-2005 03:02 AM

For those of you who think RM will survive the hadoken: Remember the power of the hadoken. http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=010323

Either BM is just having an internal fantasy or RM is really going to die. That is my prediction.

Hatake Kakashi 12-29-2005 03:04 AM

The Hadoken rears it's pretty head once more! And this time at the most twinkish character there ever was....

It was bound to happen. And with the love being sapped yet again from the world through such godly power, only one thing remains to be said.....

I hate you all.... :cool:

PsychicKid 12-29-2005 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnivore
Wait... Hadoken shot at a member of the team...

http://nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=040626

Panel 3.

That light could be anything. The fact that it's purple, and not blue, seems a little unusual to me, and that it's probably not a Hadoken being shot at a Light Warrior, much less a Hadoken.

FF3artiste 12-29-2005 04:35 AM

Well, seeing that RM was among the four ordained Light Warriors who received class change, I don't think he'll die simply because there would only be three class changed Light Warriors after that. Logically speaking. And all the soup is finished. So no more class changes for anyone else.

I await the Deus Ex Machina. :cool:

Pure Imaginary 12-29-2005 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychicKid
That light could be anything. The fact that it's purple, and not blue, seems a little unusual to me, and that it's probably not a Hadoken being shot at a Light Warrior, much less a Hadoken.

It's been suspected repeatedly that the purple blast is in fact "Ultima."

Trixbeat 12-29-2005 06:04 AM

Hadoken was also shot at party members during their captivity at Garland's, and they seem to have survived that. Can't say the same for the deathtrap though.

The Wandering God 12-29-2005 07:30 AM

I just spent an hour tracking that comic down. >.<

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020115

I passed it three times because it was in the background. Number 108.

The Wandering God

Sky Warrior Bob 12-29-2005 07:54 AM

Good. I never liked the guy anyway.

As for the Light Warriors surviving a hadoken previously, that's only half true. Literally. See, the hadoken in question was shot at a wall with reflect cast on it. The bounced back hadoken was at half power when it hit the LWs.

Oh, and if it survives, can I have RM's hat?

SWB

Satan's Onion 12-29-2005 08:01 AM

...

...

...

:eek:

Really, I need a stronger emoticon for this kind of moment. I mean, it looked like I saw that coming; I even fooled some other people into thinking so too. But I swear, hand to Thief's Almanac, I didn't see the Hadoken coming back like that.

It's funny as all plut, but...didn't see it coming either. Which is kind of a testament to Brian's skillz, in a way; even the stuff you "know would happen" is still fairly unexpected.

BetaRuler 12-29-2005 08:12 AM

I'd have almost wished he'd have done that earlier to Bahamut, it would really made my day if he didnt hit RM with that but instead it makes its way to Bahamut's cave and destroys his cave instead, that old whench and the dragon both deserve it really ^_^

Kain_Wolfwind 12-29-2005 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God
I just spent an hour tracking that comic down. >.<

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020115

I passed it three times because it was in the background. Number 108.

The Wandering God

but in the episode after that one it says that he missed... not sure how, but thats what it says...

Wetflame 12-29-2005 09:01 AM

It gets annoying when people just post to say how much they laughed and exactly how and how many heart attacks they suffered while drinking mountain dew.

I mean, would it kill you to *gasp* once in a while?

PhasmaRok 12-29-2005 09:51 AM

My first reaction... "OMG, he killed RM!"
Now I'm just wondering how this will be resolved, and how it'll manage to screw over BM. Because everything that happens, happens to hurt BM. I'm guessing that he manages to fail critically and demolish the deathtrap.


And because Black Belt is invariably drawn into these weird prediction things, he comes back, only to take the hit for RM and die. Again.
>_>
Consider that the Obligatory Insane-Black-Belt-Theory for this thread. Thank you.

Cukeman 12-29-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satan's Onion
It's funny as all plut, but...didn't see it coming either. Which is kind of a testament to Brian's skillz, in a way; even the stuff you "know would happen" is still fairly unexpected.

I always say, if you can make a gag that people can see coming a mile away, but still make it funny, you're in the right place.

Wow, that sounded even deeper out loud than in my head.

WRITE IT DOWN!

Back to the comic, I just remember what someone said in a previous comic thread, about the Hadoken breaking up Bahamut and Matoya. If they all manage to survive the Hadoken and the impending doom of the falling airship, which they will, then they'll get their class change from the newly single Bahamut.

EDIT: Whoo! 100th post!

Amake 12-29-2005 10:18 AM

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2996/jaw6tx.gif

ZAKtheGeek 12-29-2005 10:27 AM

Yeah, okay, maybe sarda will just bring him back. He'd be the second LW to be brought back twice.

K Project 12-29-2005 11:08 AM

Wow. I love RM more with every strip, but it's damned sweet to see BM break out the ol' Hadoken.

And I have this odd feeling that BM's latest Hadoken will suck enough love out of the universe to make Matoya and Bahamut break up.

Sky Warrior Bob 12-29-2005 11:59 AM

Am I the only one who wants WM to take RM's place? Come on, just after BM brutally killed off a teammate? It'll be great!

SWB

MFD 12-29-2005 12:14 PM

... RM will roll a natural twenty. Or claim he did and ignore the fact that the Hadoken should have obliterated him.

Well, he can't ignore it, since you see him getting hit, but yeah.

As for the death comic, the red squiggly lines panel hasn't happened yet. I suppose one might make the argument that the panel refers to Berserker killing Thief (red squiggly lines show anger), but Thief was brought back, and there is no panel symbolizing BM's death. So, it stands to reason that if the panels in fact represent deaths, then they only represent permanent deaths, and the red squiggly line panel will make sense eventually.

Amake 12-29-2005 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky Warrior Bob
Am I the only one who wants WM to take RM's place? Come on, just after BM brutally killed off a teammate? It'll be great!

No, I want that too. But I dare not get my hopes up. I mean, that party configuration would, like, make sense. So what are the chances of it happening? >_>

Knight McWarrior 12-29-2005 12:52 PM

:O_o:

Ouch...

Doc T 12-29-2005 12:56 PM

Possible spoiler: there's a fair few quests to go before Red Mage can bite the dust. Wait till the Temple of Fiends before BM starts systematically, and TRUELY, slaughters his Team mates

He's not dead. As the man said. 'I'll stake my reputation on it. well, i don't have one but i hope to gain one from this.'

The Wandering God 12-29-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Project
Wow. I love RM more with every strip, but it's damned sweet to see BM break out the ol' Hadoken.

And I have this odd feeling that BM's latest Hadoken will suck enough love out of the universe to make Matoya and Bahamut break up.

You, sir, are really onto something there. Good job. Oh course, one could argue that what they feel for each other is another L word, but that way leads madness.

And to the people that want WM in the party...

NO WAY! I love RM. Besides, what will they tell WM? "Oh, BM just horribly slaughtered our teammate. But we're quite sure it won't happen again." No, I think WM will never be a LW. If only because Brian said she would not be getting a class change. And 3 party members with a class change, and one without, doesn't make sense.

The Wandering God

Xal 12-29-2005 03:17 PM

My bet is that Class Change has occurred and so RM has assumed the next level of Red Magely existence.

Dee'Em's Denial.

If he cannot believe something could have happened, it could not have and thus does not.

(see RM's theory on Fighter's survival following the Armoire of Invincibility's fall on him. It may have made no sense, but as the Dee'Em could find a reason for it to work...)

Pure Imaginary 12-29-2005 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God
I just spent an hour tracking that comic down. >.<

http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020115

I passed it three times because it was in the background. Number 108.

Yeah, but only BM is hit by the spell (because of the "Wall" spell). BM survives, because the comic cannot be funny without him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky Warrior Bob
Am I the only one who wants WM to take RM's place? Come on, just after BM brutally killed off a teammate? It'll be great!

Considering how useless RM is, I would love it.

However, I doubt this will happen. Yes, WM seems to be in the party at the end of the story, but she could very well be replacing BM instead of RM.

Still, I will hope.

ZAKtheGeek 12-29-2005 03:27 PM

The explanation for fighter's survival is simple: "Plus the bottom is made of cheap particle board!"

Amake 12-29-2005 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God
And 3 party members with a class change, and one without, doesn't make sense.

Even without a class upgrade, WM has more class than all the guys put together. :)

blackwaltzomega 12-29-2005 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God
I'd just like to point out that RM managed to survive getting eaten by a fire dragon. I'm sorry, but to me, that's a bit harsher than a hadoken.

What I think is going on here is a run-up to a display of power from...

Fighter. Intuition tells me that some white magic is needed. A class changed Fighter would have access to white magic.

Or maybe RM really is going to bite the dust. That would suck.

The Wandering God

Hadoken is an A-Bomb that moves at the speed of light=way worse than a dragon's guts. RM wasn't even digesting yet.

Ep 434- I never understood it, but I think it goes something like this; the orange word bubbles is Hell King BM, talking to somebody else (Chaos?) The hadoken going off in the third panel is BM finally killing everyone else if for no other reason than because of what they did to him at the bottom.

The Wandering God 12-29-2005 05:07 PM

Actually, I have a question. Has a hadoken ever killed anyone in the comic? Ever? I'm wracking my brain, but I can't remember. And if you are going to say the giant, I always thought he could have been blown away. Like up, up and away. Have we ever seen, for lack of a better term, on-screen death?

The Wandering God

ZAKtheGeek 12-29-2005 05:21 PM

That's almost never been seen, I think. Due to any cause.

Carnivore 12-29-2005 05:31 PM

In all likelihood, Black Mage missed, has blown a big hole in the air ship and is now going to be stuck on the island for a few more weeks until they decide to build a raft or go back and get Bahamut to give them new clothes because the old ones were burnt off due to being so close to the Hadoken.

That, or Red Mage has a dead-or-mostly-dead experience and has to play a game of dice with some omnipotent being so he can go back to the land of the living.

ZAKtheGeek 12-29-2005 06:13 PM

Yeah, what I'm seeing there doesn't really look like a miss.

But I guess it could be...

Carnivore 12-29-2005 06:19 PM

Ohhh... I see that now. Totally missed it before.
Eh, I think he'll be fine.

Jaysc 12-29-2005 09:50 PM

9 down, 21 to go.

The Wizard Who Did It 12-29-2005 10:40 PM

Actually, it could look like a miss. Remember BM's 'suicide'. It looked like he stabbed himself, but he really tucked it under his armpit. RM could be behind the place of impact and flinching. Or there could be another explanation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Wandering_God
Actually, I have a question. Has a hadoken ever killed anyone in the comic? Ever? I'm wracking my brain, but I can't remember. And if you are going to say the giant, I always thought he could have been blown away. Like up, up and away. Have we ever seen, for lack of a better term, on-screen death?

We haven't seen it ever kill anything, but one could say that that is because there is no leftovers after the Hadoken. If we assume that, then we can ask another question. Has anything survived a direct blast? This may be a first. Or maybe RM's dead.

MetalPsycho 12-29-2005 10:42 PM

Escapology

Nuff said.

ZAKtheGeek 12-29-2005 10:54 PM

Thing is, this is about as fast as RM has ever had to react and change his stats, I think, and it usually does take him several seconds.

MetalPsycho 12-29-2005 11:19 PM

True, but that doesn't mean he won't find a way, say lieing about having something like Hadoken Resistance already casted on him, then change his sheet when noone's looking.

voodooKobra 12-29-2005 11:36 PM

OR... remember when Fighter "defeated gravity"? Sarda could interfere...

ZAKtheGeek 12-29-2005 11:41 PM

That was my other (read: second out of five) guess. Sort of.

voodooKobra 12-29-2005 11:43 PM

There's also the fact that BM didn't... charge up... the Hadoken. He just suddenly fired it... I don't remember seeing sparkly things around him, anyway...

MFD 12-29-2005 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZAKtheGeek
Thing is, this is about as fast as RM has ever had to react and change his stats, I think, and it usually does take him several seconds.

Actually, with Escapology, RM performed his feat and switched his stats around after the fact.

... Do Red Wizards know Wall? Was that a spell in FFI?

Burning Ninja 12-30-2005 12:08 AM

people people we're forgetting one important thing: the healing shiv.

but more importantly, red mage can't be dead yet, because unlike BB, he's part of the actual team, and an important part at that... he's the guy who gets everyone on track and to the quest. I mean, they would've vaporized the tail if it weren't for him. Also there is the fact that it would be more comical and hilarious if he were to survive due to some random stat effect that he did at the last minute (as per usual) or some random ting happening. With so many different outcomes, I don't think it's safe to say that he is either alive or dead, but my guess is that he'll live, even if he's blasted to an inch of his life.

RMV 12-30-2005 12:15 AM

Fact: The LWs have always survived hadokens.

The death of a LW has never been the result of one (or so I believe), the deaths have always been the result of a major plot event. Such as demon king BM, or the near-death (In most senses elves can't be raised) situation that thief went though. What I am trying to say is, RM is just going to be burnt next comic, the air ship is going to be gone, the LWs are going to be stranded (again), and maybe, maybe not, the class change will happen.

I don't remeber wall in FF1, and if it was, it would be higher then a level 6 spell...

SpoonyBard 12-30-2005 12:42 AM

There's also the chance BM wasted his Hadoken on the door.

MetalPsycho 12-30-2005 12:51 AM

That's not likely, as he's probably had the spell long enough to know when to use it or not, so I doubt he'd accidentally do anything like that Plus, I'm sure Brian has something much more funny ready for us.

SpoonyBard 12-30-2005 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalPsycho
That's not likely, as he's probably had the spell long enough to know when to use it or not, so I doubt he'd accidentally do anything like that Plus, I'm sure Brian has something much more funny ready for us.

Come on, when has BM actually used the Hadoken properly? I do agree that Brian probably has something better though, which is why I said 'a chance'. I also just realized Fighter has a new pose.

voodooKobra 12-30-2005 03:19 AM

What? Where?!

Jaysc 12-30-2005 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpoonyBard
Come on, when has BM actually used the Hadoken properly? I do agree that Brian probably has something better though, which is why I said 'a chance'. I also just realized Fighter has a new pose.


when HASN'T he used it properly?

Sephiroth-Reborn 12-30-2005 04:43 AM

Well its not the first time RM`S Died,Think About the wearwolf insedent,He came back Or when BM Stabbed him to the brink of death,The Most logical thing is that he changged his charecter sheet thus so loosing certian abileties

voodooKobra 12-30-2005 05:07 AM

I don't recall BM stabbing RM to the brink of death... other people, maybe. Not RM...

Xlash 12-30-2005 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooKobra
I don't recall BM stabbing RM to the brink of death... other people, maybe. Not RM...

Only time I recall started at the end of this strip http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=020920

SpoonyBard 12-30-2005 08:36 AM

I can't remember all his attempts, but I mean stuff like shooting at a volcano and missing.


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