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Dasanudas 01-06-2006 07:57 PM

Light and Dark face-off!
 
It was brought up briefly in the Episode 643 thread, but I was wondering how people were seeing the Light Warrior vs. Dark Warrior pair offs. The one I saw mentioned was:
RM - Lucien (is that his name? the emo LARPer)
Thief - Drizzle
Fighter - Garland
BM - Bikke

The problem arising is how does Bikke match up with BM? I would propose a different understanding coming from the fact that Thief and Bikke are both people that steal from others. Thus:

Bikke - Thief

This also leads to the very interesting idea of seeing what 8Bit Theatre's conclusion is on the whole pirates vs. ninjas spiel - if Thief becomes a ninja that is.

Second, Since it has happened before, Drizzle will pair off against Fighter, except with the addition of sword-chucks and class-change, the fight won't go so easily to Drizzle.

Fighter - Drizzle

I agree with RM and Lucien - the munchkins deserve each other.

RM - Lucien

But then we get a problem of BM and Garland. While both seem to be the leader (sort of in each case - Thief is the official leader, but BM is kinda the main star of the comic), they have nothing else in common. Unless, of course, Garland is Chaos like in the game - in which case it makes perfect sense. That and BM vs. Lucien with RM vs. Garland makes even less sense.

In conclusion:

BM - Garland
Fighter - Drizzle
Thief - Bikke
RM - Lucien

Anyone else have a better match-up and explanation?

P.S. - I know the names are wrong, I don't really care since hopefully you know who I'm talking about. I would thank the next poster for correcting the names if they choose.

Seran 01-06-2006 09:01 PM

I think the matchups are good.

I can say Garland somewhat represents Chaos, so he would be a Dark Warrior match against Black Mage. I mean, in the game, Garland was found in the Chaos Shrine, having kidnapped Princess Sarah from Castle Cornelia. Or so the events had taken place in my Dawn of Souls game.

There seems to always be an arugment between ninja and pirate, as I notice over the Internet? Thief versus Bikke? I do think so. Thief's intelligent, and Bikke's not very smart, but I don't think Thief is too familiar with the sea, and Bikke...just doesn't have a great mind. Sort of evens them out, or so I see.

Frighter against Drizz'le...or was it spelled some other way? Oh well. Fighter and Drizzle do seem like a physical pair of enemies. A Drizzle and Thief match would be interesting, Drow/Dark Elf against Elf, but we're looking at class attributes and not race, aren't we?

Red Mage and Luci...en...hm...

The Wizard Who Did It 01-06-2006 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Seran
I can say Garland somewhat represents Chaos, so he would be a Dark Warrior match against Black Mage. I mean, in the game, Garland was found in the Chaos Shrine, having kidnapped Princess Sarah from Castle Cornelia. Or so the events had taken place in my Dawn of Souls game.

I thought someone else would get this first, but now I have to say it. Brian says that noone will become Chaos. Whether you twist those words or not, I'm sure it will give you insight.

Oh, and it's Vilbert I think. And Drizz'l is spelled... look earlier in the sentance. I do have a life, I just have a good memory. And a couple other friends with no lives. ANd I agree with the top one, only because the other three make the most sense. And that's why I failed averages in algebra. I just didn't care. I always went with the mode. And now I shut up.

Seran 01-06-2006 09:21 PM

He said that? Oh, okay then. Never mind the Garland comments.

I never bothered to remember the names of the Dark Warriors...oh, and Drizzle is Drizz'l...Well, I know one at least.

cthu 01-06-2006 10:24 PM

I agree with you Dasanudas.

Fighter and Drizzl'e are both evenly matched in terms of swordsmanship, but being an elf, Drizzl'e is probably faster. Sword chucks tilt it in Fighter's favor though. But when (if) fighter gets the class change then Drizzl'e will have to do some catching up. Also he will need to get new swords, since Fighter has his, which he con verted into sword chucks.

Theif is very intelligent, but Bikke is not, as you stated. Theif is clearly superior.\

RM and Vilbert. Thats a good one. Two RPGers, but one is tabletop and one is Live Action Roleplaying (LARP) Both seem of relitivly equal intellegence.
now that RM has blue magic though... Vilbert though is immortal because he is a vampire, and sunlight and piercing his heart can't kill him so maybe it is even.

Black mage is MOSTLY pure evil. He has the Hadoken, and absorbed all of hell BM's powers and then some from the Ordeal. Garland is nicer and not really evil. He is more like Caotic Neutral, leaning more to good. He can also summon creatures. That is probably in BM's favor because:
1. Garland is too nice to hurt anyone, he wouldnt even if he wanted to.
2. The Hadoken can beat any of his summons (maybe)
Garland though has shown some intelligence in the past though.

The Wizard Who Did It 01-06-2006 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cthu
I agree with you Dasanudas.

Fighter and Drizzl'e are both evenly matched in terms of swordsmanship, but being an elf, Drizzl'e is probably faster. Sword chucks tilt it in Fighter's favor though. But when (if) fighter gets the class change then Drizzl'e will have to do some catching up. Also he will need to get new swords, since Fighter has his, which he con verted into sword chucks.

Theif is very intelligent, but Bikke is not, as you stated. Theif is clearly superior.\

RM and Vilbert. Thats a good one. Two RPGers, but one is tabletop and one is Live Action Roleplaying (LARP) Both seem of relitivly equal intellegence.
now that RM has blue magic though... Vilbert though is immortal because he is a vampire, and sunlight and piercing his heart can't kill him so maybe it is even.

Black mage is MOSTLY pure evil. He has the Hadoken, and absorbed all of hell BM's powers and then some from the Ordeal. Garland is nicer and not really evil. He is more like Caotic Neutral, leaning more to good. He can also summon creatures. That is probably in BM's favor because:
1. Garland is too nice to hurt anyone, he wouldnt even if he wanted to.
2. The Hadoken can beat any of his summons (maybe)
Garland though has shown some intelligence in the past though.

I know I have to bring my posts per day down, because I feel like I'm everywhere, annoying everyone with annoyingness...

ANYways, I thought this thread was about comparing which LW corrosponds with which DW, not having them duke it out.

Kurosen 01-06-2006 10:34 PM

There's not meant to be a direct correlation between any of the Warrior Sets in 8BT. They always consist of four because the number four features so prominently in the game -- four Warriors of Light, four Orbs of Light, four Fiends.

8BT takes the "four-ness" further by having four Light Warriors, four Lite Warriors, four Other Warriors, and four Dark Warriors making a total of four Warrior Groups. Even further, the vast majority of my comics have four rows, though this is a rule I will break at the drop of a hat if it makes for a better comic.

Feel free to speculate all you want on this issue, but there is no right answer. All the Warriors are ill-equipped for their respective roles, and similarities between any two are coincidental.

Mondt 01-06-2006 10:40 PM

I'd say

BM-Drizz'l - They both find all their teammates more annoying than the raven's tricks

RM-Vilbert - For obvious reasons

Fighter-Garland - Stupid meatshield that comes up with stupid plans

Thief-Bikke - This is where it gets bad. Thief is nothing like Bikke. Bikke is a stupid pirate who thinks he is "The Claw" and Thief is a somewhat intelligent, and if not, a contractual genius who find others' stupidity to his advantage. I think that there will always be some flaw to these pair ups because of all of the Dark Warriors being stupid except Drizz'l while two Light Warriors aren't stupid, being BM and Thief. (This is in the general and comparitive sense. Also, if comparitive is spelled wrong it's because dictionary.com will not load :()

Edit: Blah, he posted while I was typing this. Stupid explanations

The Wizard Who Did It 01-06-2006 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurosen
Feel free to speculate all you want on this issue, but there is no right answer. All the Warriors are ill-equipped for their respective roles, and similarities between any two are coincidental.

Wait, your comic genius is so amazing, that it was completely accidental that both groups had...

A. A bigot racist, both from a similar evolutionary chain.
B. A dumb, yet sometimes smart, knight dude that's too nice for his own good
C. A nerd who applies his *cough*lack*cough* of RP skills to the real world.

...?

Krylancelo 01-06-2006 10:53 PM

Keep in mind both BM and Garland are terrible at being clever/imaginative. BM has all of the horrible, horrible jokes that he writes down, and Garland will "knock you down."


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