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jeremiahcron 01-25-2006 10:57 AM

school time only!
 
it sux so bad that i don't got a computer and the only time i can get on is at school! plus i am in a RP so i have a hard time playin it!

Yakubyougami 01-25-2006 11:09 AM

I'm having a hard time caring about your plight.

jeremiahcron 01-25-2006 11:16 AM

you apparently cared enuff to post didn't u

Dasanudas 01-25-2006 11:28 AM

This really should be in General don't you think? Or perhaps we could convert a gripe session into a talk on how current education systems are taking up too much time in a person's life. And on that subject, I don't really know if I would agree with it, I think they ignore important aspects of life due to secularism but i wouldn't say they take up too much time. Rather, specially in the US, very little time is spent schooling compared to other nations of comparable economies like Japan or Germany - don't know about the UK.

Kaelus 01-25-2006 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dasanudas
Rather, specially in the US, very little time is spent schooling compared to other nations of comparable economies like Japan or Germany - don't know about the UK.

What I like about Japan is that they don't just teach academic subjects. I wouldn't mind at all spending some extra hours at school for cooking class, for example... not to mention the clubs formed by the students themselves. You spend almost all day in school, but it's worth it.

Mannix 01-25-2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaelus
What I like about Japan is that they don't just teach academic subjects. I wouldn't mind at all spending some extra hours at school for cooking class, for example... not to mention the clubs formed by the students themselves. You spend almost all day in school, but it's worth it.


you mean like home ec and shop class?

gundevako 01-25-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasanudas
....I don't really know if I would agree with it, I think they ignore important aspects of life due to secularism but i wouldn't say they take up too much time. Rather, specially in the US, very little time is spent schooling compared to other nations of comparable economies like Japan or Germany - don't know about the UK.

Funny thing is I am able to compare all three pretty well. I agree the Japanese do spend a lot of time in school however they have some great after school activities to compensate. And I don't know about Mannix but I know my high school (in America) had neither Home Ec nor Shop.

In Germany though I know a LOT of schools have 'half day' schedules which means that the students only stay in school half the day and should use the afternoon to study, the disadvantage is that the Germans also graduate A LOT later than Japanese and Americans on average and tend to also grauduate later from the University as well. There are however many schools who are changing to full day schedules.

Dasanudas 01-25-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gundevako
In Germany though I know a LOT of schools have 'half day' schedules which means that the students only stay in school half the day and should use the afternoon to study...

During my time in Germany, we also had a half-day schedule (not really half-day but less than six hours certainly), but we went to school six days out of the week, it made up for the loss of hours. Perhaps this has changed since I lived there, or perhaps it was a regional thing.

Yakubyougami 01-25-2006 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaelus
What I like about Japan is that they don't just teach academic subjects. I wouldn't mind at all spending some extra hours at school for cooking class, for example... not to mention the clubs formed by the students themselves. You spend almost all day in school, but it's worth it.

After school programs in the style that Japan has now (many, and in depth with much more student control - as well as properally funded sports/activity organizations), and manditory involvement in them is something North American schools should of instituted long ago considering how much even a few of such programs have been shown to increase school involvement and lower undesirable behaviour. They can't afford them, or won't pay for them at the moment, which is a shame - schools should be cathedrals where students feel invited to belong and not prisons where they are stuck for a few hours before release.

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Originally Posted by jeremiahcron
you apparently cared enuff to post didn't u

I'd post if the topic was on the state of sales of Vincent Valentine plushies in the Sahel region, let alone a vague complaint regarding school.

gundevako 01-25-2006 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasanudas
During my time in Germany, we also had a half-day schedule (not really half-day but less than six hours certainly), but we went to school six days out of the week, it made up for the loss of hours. Perhaps this has changed since I lived there, or perhaps it was a regional thing.


To the best of my knowledge it is a regional thing. I am living in North Rhein Westphalia now and I know they are starting to debate whether to switch to 'full day' schools or not. Actually education in general in Germany is becoming a nation wide debate because of the recent PISA study and because of the problem with the upcoming retirement of a huge amount of teachers within the next few years.


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