Is america becoming a fascist regime?
 

Ok no this post has nothing to do with the "can you call this a crime" post. I wanted to ask this question weeks ago, Well my question is that is America becomming a fascist regime? and if so will it bring on Nostradamus's WW3? I would like to hear your opinions on this, me personnally im not sure and this is why im asking this question.

The answers to your two questions are as follows: 1. No and 2. No

What is your opinion on the subject?

due to the spread out time length of Nostradamus's anti-christs that i don't think one will come out soon and cause WW3 soo no. As far as america becoming a fascist regime possibly but im not sure im asking this question, for more information.

First, with respect to Nostradamus, he said the world was going to end in either 1994, 1998, or 2012... How can we expect him to be a reliable source when he's flip-flopping all over the place? Nostradamus, either pick a date or shut your mouth! :D

But I digress... Fascist regime? Certainly not. The bloviations of a reactionary opposition to the current administration.

With that said, I will concede that yes it is somewhat possible that the United States could one day function under a militaristic-esque fascist-esque government, and yes there can be some broad connections made to lead one to believe that that may be coming soon.

To be frank, America is too divided politically and too spread apart to function as a fascist state, and the current situation of imprisonment, the USA PATRIOT act, and party control in both houses, the judiciary, and the presidency hardly add up to Fascism - the three are of much too small a scale.

- There has yet to be a purge of dissenters within the party (if anything, there's now more blatant dissent for the President within the Republican party than before the last election) or congress.

- There has yet to be a direct attack against the freedom of speech for citizen protesters (no... being escorted out of a symposium or speech for holding a protest sign does not count as a breach of freedom of speech).

- The rounding-up of ethnic groups has yet to occur. The imprisonment of a few hundred muslims (who can (in all likelyhood) be physically traced to terror organizations) does not count.

- Overt propaganda is mostly limited to advertisements for various branches of the military (which have always existed).

- The lack of intelligence information being released by the administration is a trait inherent in most all governments. If anything, I'm suprised about how open this administration has been in a time of war.

- Brutal torture of Americans has yet to be seen - and the application of our "less-than-brutal" torture beyond America's boarders is a trait shared by [too] many non-totalitarian governments.

- America is still completely divided! I doubt we'll ever wholly unify under one party or person, and give them enough time to bring forth the daunting task of taking that unity and putting it under militaristic control, nor allow the government to act with all of the above points.

I could go on, but the point is that America falls much too short of being on the fast-track to Fascism. Of course, if I'm wrong (which I'm not), and it does happen, I'll be the first one to try and dismantle it.

... damn... I wrote way too much for such a simple question...

... oh well...

No that was good i wanted something long or atleast heart felt because a simple no gives me nothing well thank you for taking your time to fully anser the question. also 2012 has yet to happen but the world ending in 6 years? i doubt it and if it dose then i hope i get a front row seat in death! well thank you agian now all i have to worry abotu is America falling in to a depression bringing Canada down with it =( i hope there economy gets better soon.

Personally, I think that WWIII will come about a while before any sort of major government changes occur here.

There's too much petty infighting, too many companies with quadrillions of dollars to lobby for the status quo and line the senators' pockets with moola and slow down any sort of progress with pentillions of miles of bureaucratic red, white, and blue tape.

Thus, I think the only thing that will get rid of the government's sluggishness and lack of initiative is to be vaporized in a 10,000,000C fireball, slagged, rebuilt, slagged again, and then come under the control of a single charismatic individual while the leadership is headless.

Which, if Mr. Bin Laden ever manages to get off his ass, could happen soon. Considering how woefully inept security measures can seem to be at times.

It only takes one mistake.

First of all, Nostradamus is a crock. Seriously. Humans love to find patterns and read into things. If you write thousands of open-ended quatrains with vague symbols, odds are something in a half-millenium of events are going to fit a few of them. See: Postdiction.

And seriously. No Nostradamus prophecy has ever been interpreted to predict anything before it has happened. It's always after the fact.

But I see no reason for America to be on the Fascist path. At all. And I'm a Bush-hatin' librul, at that.

America = Facist? No. Not by a long fucking shot. Children being encouraged to rat on their parents has yet to occur.

WW3? Not so sure. I know that Iran is just begging for a "tactical premptive strike" if they keep blowing the rest of the world off when it comes to nuclear power, but that's another discussion.

I'm not very informed on the subject, so I'd like to ask: does Iran have the support of most of the Muslim world? If so, while it might be short of WW3, it would be HUGE war. If not, it'd be another Iraq.

That said, the US is still too far from a facist regime to even think it's going there. Now, if the next two presidents (or maybe just the next president) happen to both be supporters of the same policies (PATRIOT Act, domestic spying, arrest over library books, secrecy over government action) (the latter being understandable) then perhaps we could begin to take alarm. However, as was stated earlier, nothing as bad as a real facist regime has even begun to occur.

Iran may not have total support of the Muslim world, but they don't need it; they are much more militarily capable conventionally than Iraq, at least now. They do have the F-14 Tomcat (although not too many, likely lost to attrition and lack of parts) and I see Iran, being a rigid theocracy, as having far more discipline than Iraq.

In other words, when the Tomahawks are criminally violating their infrastructure and tank farms, and the bombers are clusterfucking everything they can find out in the open, Iranian soldiers are far more likely to fight to the death rather than give up immediately (definitely no surrendering to unmanned aerial vehicles.)

I don't think Iran has the nuclear delivery capacity to harm anyone outside of the Middle East at this point, but they could expand their range to include most of if not all of Europe pretty quickly.

Do I see the U.S. being directly threatened by Iran's ICBM's if they are deployed? No. But you can count on retaliation if they decide to hit Israel or Denmark or France or Germany or whatever.

I'd love to see Europe collectively nuke Iran into an 'Anarchist Islamic Theocratic Crater That Glows In The Dark (tm)', but I do think Iran has more brains than that, even if they are driven by madmen.

I see Israel as being the only target they ever manage to fire at before nuclear weapons are used for the second time in anger in history.