That way is fine, too. Personally I get sick of supposedly centurion Elves who act like temperamental and impatient humans all the time, and I ought to know as my current regular D&D campaign encorporates no less than three of the bastards. (Well, two now. One recently became ground pizza after failing a jump check. Serves her right for thinking the name "Death Chasm" was just for tourists.)

Honestly, when you take into account that an Elf is supposed to have seen no less than a century of life on this earth, making him older than all but the most venerable humans, you HAVE to take into account the kind of perspective that brings if you want to RP your Elf at all believably. I know expounding cliches is generally bad form for roleplaying, but in this case it isn't just because "Elves are that way." It's because they're 110 years old, and it would take some serious learning disability if they didn't gain some kind of temperance from that. So Elves really should, as a rule, be patient, mature, generally calm and hard to shock. After all, they've been around for a century.

They should NOT punch out other party members for making a lewd comment, or become wandering prostitutes, or be generally credulous and gullible cottonheads. I have to DM Elves who act like the cast of Dawson's Creek and it makes me want to cry.

Wooo! Elves civilisation got owned :p

But somehow youknow, I woulda liked to have seen one of the best points there being made by fighter, he usually makes some of the best ones when it comes to stuff like that I think.

If anyone wants a good point on this, remember the very, very long-lived people from Golden Sun.

Lived so long, but children had the same time spent as a child as any other normal human. They said that "children were precious" to them because of it. Maybe elves adore children like that too.

...no, not in the Jackson way, the NORMAL way.

I agree to the elf-comments. In the campains i GM (not D&D, but fantasy still) I create the characters myself, and i always have a hard time with the elfs, coz' they are two to three times as old as anyone else, and equally experienced! Grumble, mumble... Hate it.

Oh, and going back on-topic, this comic was just so good. Really.

I'm sorry, you were just asking for it. >_> Although I noticed that you never capitalise "And", even if it's at the beginning of the sentence. Why? <_<

Now, getting back on topic.

It was so very awesome- and I mean awesome, as in "AWESOME D00DZERZ INCORREKT SPILLING N CAPSLOX CRUUSE CONTRL FER TEH KEWL" awesome- seeing Thief put in such a situation.

Seriously. It was.

Because, I have this seething hate of all things "Elf". From what I understand, they are almost exactly like human beings, but just better at everything. Including having better looks, which- from my knowledge- isn't something a whole goddamned race can have in their genes.

Of course Elven technology isn't on par with the humans'. How could it be when the humans have King Steve? He invented inventing.

"Blamming" = my bad.
"They eye" = I don't remember touching that "Y" key. >_> Maybe it's a ghost "Y". "YGCA". Where ghosts go to excersize and stuff. <_<
".and" = you should've used a comma, then. And you are allowed to start sentences with "And", "Because", and so on. So says hundreds of books, and English class for a very, very long time.

Back on topic-

There was this one comic that showed a picture of a baby saying, "I'm a forty year old virgin. Creepy, huh?" on here somewhere, but I'm too lazy to look. I'm pretty sure it's just a funny thing to add, but maybe these Elves take a very long time to age from childhood? Maybe? Please? Then it can be even easier to poke fun at them. I want to poke fun at them, goshdarnit!

It's not like there aren't plenty of venerable humans who aren't just outright ornery old assholes. Shit, I know old people who would cock-punch you for making a dirty joke and tell you to shut the fuck up and then turn right around and repeat the same joke to their shitty-old-man buddies and laugh their heads off. And believe you me, if my Grandma had the body of your average D&D elf, she'd be fucking everything on two legs and and probably a few on four. I'm not saying old people don't have perspective, I'm just saying that perspective tends to be 'fuck everybody else, I'm old and I don't give a shit.' So I don't necessarily see why Elves should have to be any different.

I probably shouldn't get involved, but I'd like to make a polite request here... could all those involved please cease the grammar nitpicking? I'd sincerely appreciate it.

Back on topic...

It could be possible, if they've been practicing eugenics (selective breeding between sentients) all this time. It would also explain so much else about the elves, like their slow technological advancement, for instance. Humans are adaptable because they're fairly opportunistic when it comes to breeding; they'll take what they can get. As a result, humans may be "uglier" (rather subjective - I find most elves unpleasantly sharp-featured, personally) on the whole, but they do not restrict potentially useful genes just because they happened to be possessed by an ugly individual. The only time I can recall humans widely practicing eugenics was in Nazi Germany (it was one of the Nazi's reasonings behind the Holocaust, that Jews were an inferior race and needed to be eliminated for the betterment of humanity), and look what happened to them.

As for elves being "better at everything," that's just elven propaganda; it's what they believe, and what they want everyone else to believe. As Red Mage and Black Mage proved in the last comic, elves have their issues just like everyone else. The difference comes in that they're more prone to covering it up with polite euphemisms and hiding it from everyone else. It's a testament to their propaganda skills that they've managed to maintain their mythos of being "superior" for so long. After all, in several Tolkienistic worlds, elves control only a very small amount of territory, and frequently are being herded into ever-smaller areas by encroaching humans and goblinoids. Considering that they once "controlled the world," in these worlds, one must wonder WTF happened. Clearly, elves aren't as superior as they want everyone to believe if mere humans and goblinoids can oust most of their empire in the span of a few thousand years.

On the whole, however, I can understand your distaste for all things elven. Their language is needlessly complex and flowery, they're needlessly complex and flowery, they bleed and break easy when subjected to physical torment, they're narcissistic, haughty, arrogant, racist and xenophobic, and aside from their magic and magic items (which they do not trade to other races often) they produce no worthwhile goods or services. At least dwarves are excellent smiths and miners, in a lot of Tolkienistic worlds, trade the fruits of their labor with nearby human communities for food, cloth, and leather.

Pfft, elves. They're so wrapped up in their "long-term view of the world" that they're going to going to get pounded in the here-and-now unless they pull their heads out of their butts and stop reminiscing/future gazing long enough to do something about it. This is why I respect Thief a bit more than most elves - unlike the rest of his pointy-eared, tree-huggin' kind, he actually goes out and does stuff rather than sit around posturing and posing and looking down his nose at other races while they figure out which pose they want him in before he takes an axe to the neck. As greed pointed out awhile ago, the elves and dwarves are in a more-or-less perpetual state of war over the Earth Orb, and the Light(bulb) Warriors managed to do more damage to the dwarves in the course of a few comics than the entire elven race has done. Just goes to show you what two humans, one black mage, and an elf-who-actually-makes-himself-useful can do, compared to an entire race of narcissistic screw-your-neighbor hippies.

You know, that makes me wonder. We've never seen Thief's mother, the Queen of Elfland, have we? Could Thief possibly be half-elven? He does seem to be awfully robust, practical, and open-minded compared to your average elf.

Apologies for the rather longwinded post/rant