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Truce 01-26-2004 09:17 PM

Whoops.

...ehh, I mean, Ripel and Dezil are perceived as dead by Ciaran. Or at least, Dezil is.

IHateMakingNames 01-26-2004 09:19 PM

But the magitek came back reporting a lose probably, so I would think Ciaran (Who is smart) would probably assume Ripel is alive (And probably Dezil to, it wouldn't be that hard to figure out)

Truce 01-26-2004 09:22 PM

First, Dezil's Magitek blew up and made it look like he died. Second, I'm not sure but it may have looked like Ripel had been hit by that Flame Thrower. Third, Ciaran's troops fear him, and may say they have accomplished the original mission even if they knew it wasn't true.

IHateMakingNames 01-26-2004 09:25 PM

But Ciaran has these points to base off that Dizel is alive off. First, Dezil threw something that blew up. Some other pilot had to have seen it, and most likely it would have been reported. Second, after Dizel's 'death', his house was booby trapped and blew up with Ultima. Obviously he probably had that planned. Third, I think they would tell him they failed, rather then hoping that failing the mission but lying doesn't come back and bite them in the ass.

Or kyrlo can decide that he thinks they are both dead.

Forever Zero 01-26-2004 09:29 PM

Dezil didn't throw anything. It was an early transmitting device, that he used to overload the sub-commanders Magitek. The house is true, but that doesn't mean Dezil planned it as vengence, Ciaran may have presumed Dezil to be a paranoid eccentric that valued the secrecy of his work THAT much. And even if they say they failed, which would lead to a few executions most likely, they would have also reported the death of Dezil as contributing to the panic of the troops, since they wouldn't want it to look like they dropped the ball and ran with the troops. The selectivly lie, put all the blame on the 'dead' Dezil, and hope Ciaran goes light on them.

Krylo 01-26-2004 10:38 PM

Ciaran actually rather liked Dezil, though... most likely if the guy who was suppose to be 'guarding' him hadn't died in the ultima blast he would have killed him when he got back... Most likely that guard was the only one who was really suppose to be guarding his charge (as well as keeping track to make sure he's loyal, but not killing him). Ciaran loved the anti-magic fields... although he hates their color... and likes all the other trinkets Dezil made.

Anyway... he probably wouldn't be too surprised that Ripel is alive... FZ's scenerio on their lying selectively is probably the most realistic... trying to put all the blame on Dezil, because a lot of refugees wouldn't stay secret for long, and if they had done their job there'd be very few refugees. Ciaran is a rather thorough man and would have ordered the entire populace destroyed, or as close to it as possible, just incase Ripel confessed his sins. However... they'd probably tell him that Ripel at least was dead.

To put that all in an easy to read form: Ciaran has been told Dezil and Ripel are both dead, and he has no reason to question Dezil's death, but wouldn't be too extremely surprised if Ripel is alive... but at the moment has no reason to believe he's still alive either. He does have reason to send more people out to attack the refugees, however...

Mr. Viewtiful 01-27-2004 06:21 PM

After reading Dante's latest post on Dante's past, this song popped into my head. It may serve as a good theme song...

I Disappear
by Metallica

Hey, hey, hey
Here I go now
Here I go into new days
Hey, hey, hey
Here I go now
Here I go into new days
I'm pain, I'm hope, I'm suffer

Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey
Here I go into new days
Hey, hey, hey
Ain't no mercy
Ain't no mercy left for me

Hey, hey, hey
Ain't no mercy
Aint no mercy left for me
I'm pain, I'm hope, I'm suffer

Hey, hey, hey
Ain't no mercy
Ain't no mercy left for me

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

Hey, hey, hey
And I went
And I went on down that road
Hey, hey, hey
And I went on
And I went on down that road
I'm pain, I'm hope, I'm suffer
Hey, hey, hey
Yeah, and I went on
And I went on down that road

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

(solo)

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

Do you bury me when I'm gone?
Do you teach me while I'm here?
Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear

Darth SS 01-27-2004 06:46 PM

Woah....there's a discussion....


trippy.

I think I found Ark's theme, at least the one I think he should have once I finish his little...character upgrade. Yes.

Switchback. Don't know who it's by, but it kicks royal ass.

CelesJessa 01-27-2004 06:57 PM

I thought of a song that might be good for Kairi's theme song... but I dunno. It sounds a little too lovie dovie for her.
(it's the theme song from Legend of Dragoon, go figure ^_^; ) But the song sounds sad and like it could be explaining something sad that happened in her past which makes her so determined to protect people now.

If I finally decide if it should be her theme song, I'll post the lyrics. ^^;

Krylo 01-27-2004 06:59 PM

I liked Legend of Dragoon... which theme song is it?

PS. You are free to break the chains of fate which bind you.


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