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Takari 05-04-2006 10:07 PM

I think this whole shock over RM crossdressing is absurd. Especially all the gay comments.

Homosexuality has nothing to do with crossdressing. In fact, most crossdressers are heterosexual men, a good portion of what's left are transsexuals (which could be debated aren't really crossdressing at all since they are really girls), and almost none are homosexuals.

You're most likely thinking of the loudest group of crossdressers, commonly known as drag queens. These aren't standard crossdressers, and are in reality, an extremely small portion of them. Drag queens are entertainers, usually homosexual, who crossdress as part of an act.

Drag Queens are about as accurate a representation of the standard crossdressing population as Hollywood is of the rest of America.

Simply put, Deborah is obviously not a drag queen, as she is not for anyone's entertainment. And she appears to not be something sexual. The only thing Deborah is, is something of comfort to RM, and possibly something just plain fun to do.

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Now on the aspect of homosexuality. Being gay requires two things, and two things alone...

1. The subject is male.
2. The subject is sexually attracted to other males.

That's it. No matter how effeminate a man is, no matter how unmanly, no matter if he likes crossdressing, he isn't gay. He is gay if, and ONLY IF, he is sexually attracted to other men.

We have never seen Red Mage show any sexual interest in other men, so we cannot assume he is gay.

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Now, deeper into RM's sexuality, I've yet to see him show any androphilia, much less gynephilia. Nor bisexuality, or even autophilia.

The sole basis on which we can guess at RM's sexuality is based on his crossdressing then. This is a very rough spreadout, as statistics vary widely on this subject. So rather than offer inaccurate percentages, I'll offer fractions.

3/5 hetrosexual male (straight)
9/25 transsexual female (MtF)
1/25 homosexual male (gay)

Fractions rule your world (not!). *yawn* Like I said, those are estimates only, but that means approximately 60% of crossdressers are straight males, around 35% are transsexuals, and 5% are gay.

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So in conclusion: QUIT STERIOTYPING! (-_-*)

Okay, I've said my piece.

Jared Todd 05-05-2006 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Takari
1. The subject is male.
2. The subject is sexually attracted to other males.

That's it. No matter how effeminate a man is, no matter how unmanly, no matter if he likes crossdressing, he isn't gay. He is gay if, and ONLY IF, he is sexually attracted to other men.

Dammit! I really thought I was going to get away with it that time, but then you said "if he is sexually attracted to other men.".

But, really, if all the discussion is going to be about how RM is gay, and it takes up more posts than a normal topic when there isn't actually anything to talk about anyway, you guys are ridiculously sad (shut up, I know I'm an elitist prick, but I'm not an elitist prick that talks about stoopidyti!). Besides, all this talk about RM could easily go into a different topic. If all the posts solely about "Oh Em Gee Whut-ff!! Errdmige is teh ghay!!!111eleven" were shipped into an individual topic, then we'd probably have a little less than 3 pages. Probably. So shut up-a yo mouf and talk about somefin' good far a change, ah!

Seran 05-05-2006 05:49 AM

Go Takari, whoot! I'm sorry Jared.

But for being on topic, well, that's always a major thing in these threads. Everyone should know that. If not, then they'd better learn quick...

Something seems off. Normally I don't think Fighter would say anything if in Thief's presence, and Thief saying that they should 'get this bird in the air'. Fighter'd probably stand there and think to himself instead, attempting to sort out what Thief meant by bird. Now it seems he's formed an individual opinion on the spot and made an argument, even if he still maintained his slight stupidity. Does anyone find this odd, or is it just me?

BlackMageFF1 05-05-2006 06:24 AM

When RM said "Reporting for duty!" it was probably just because, Thief asked him to cross-dress (or so he thought) and now he's asking what Thief wants him to do in the dress. (Shut up, I know what yu're thinking you pervs)

When you said Deborah was something fun for RM to do, it reminded me of a little 5-year-old that walks around in a dress for fun.

Amake 05-05-2006 06:25 AM

Statistically, someone in the recurring cast should be homosexual. I don't think it's a big deal. The only one who seems to have a sex drive is BM. . .

Hey, wouldn't it be fun if BM turned out to be gay?

BlackMageFF1 05-05-2006 06:31 AM

BM will kill all gay people... and straight people for that matter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seran
Go Takari, whoot! I'm sorry Jared.

But for being on topic, well, that's always a major thing in these threads. Everyone should know that. If not, then they'd better learn quick...

Something seems off. Normally I don't think Fighter would say anything if in Thief's presence, and Thief saying that they should 'get this bird in the air'. Fighter'd probably stand there and think to himself instead, attempting to sort out what Thief meant by bird. Now it seems he's formed an individual opinion on the spot and made an argument, even if he still maintained his slight stupidity. Does anyone find this odd, or is it just me?

I believe Fighter has the intelligence of a normal person, he just likes acting stupid to annoy BM and Thief. He's also a little naive.

greed 05-05-2006 11:56 AM

BM and Fighter are straight, they like girls(EPS for Fighter, WM and to a lesser extent Kary for BM) then again there is this and this (but the formers just Fighter's naivty and the latter classifies as a cross between masturbation and necrophilia).

RM is not gay, he is something completely perverted that has nothing to do with his crossdressing (which isn't sexual, just wierd and caused by his fictional child abuse thanks to Thief),what he is, is something to do with Chocobo voyeurism ("I never said I had to")and experience.

So yeah, guess who that leaves to be the statistically probable homosexual.

Black Sword 05-05-2006 03:16 PM

Thief? Gay? Sheesh, if Thief were real, I think he'd sue you for perpetuating unfair elf stereotypes.

Halo2994 05-05-2006 03:35 PM

I think if would be fitting if at some point RM and his alter ego have it out Death Match style.

All this talk about RM’s sexuality is cool.

But am I the only one who is wondering what the rhyme fighter was talking about is?

-halo (I’m such a noob)

Seran 05-05-2006 03:40 PM

I like to think it's something along the lines of, "By the by, birds can fly, can fly so high straight into the sky." Other than that, not really.


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