Doctor...who?: the US Viewers' Thread
 

Does what it says on the label! Talk about Sci-Fi Channel's broadcast of the first season of the new Doctor Who series here.

UK VIEWERS WHO MIGHT BE BROWSING THIS THREAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SERIES: UNTIL AN EPISODE HAS AIRED IN THE US, CONSIDER IT AND ANY EPISODES AFTER IT AS SPOILERS. YOU CAN EASILY FIND WHICH EPISODES HAVE AIRED BY CHECKING SCI-FI CHANNEL'S WHO SITE, OR BY PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT OTHER POSTERS ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS GOES DOUBLE FOR ANYTHING ABOUT THE SECOND SEASON UNTIL IT BEGINS AIRING IN THE US, AT WHICH TIME YOU MAY DISCUSS PLOT POINTS OF THE EPISODES AS THEY AIR. I AM SO TIRED OF HAVING TO EXPLAIN THIS I COULD PUT A COLANDER ON MY HEAD, GRAB A LASER POINTER, AND START SCREAMING "EXTERMINATE". DON'T MAKE ME TOILET PLUNGER YOU.

...Cough. So anyway, carry on, chips and sonic screwdrivers for all. And if you don't want to get spoiled, don't go peeking in the UK Viewers' thread, because I'm not going to give a crap about your crying if you do.

By the by, I know some certain things about Season Two that I'll keep to myself, but I will say this: I have yet to find an episode I hated.

Which is a god damned landmark.

Just a note: the next episode to air on Sci-Fi will be "the Parting of the Ways", the first season finale. Are y'all excited?

Mashirosen: For the record, having two threads is pointless and stupid. But you're the mod. whatever.

Anyway, i can't wait for next weeks season finale. :)

No it isn't. The british are a season ahead of us.

Man, the monologue thingie at the end with the Doctor saying he was going to save Rose was just awesomes.

Your gracefully-worded comments have been noted, and in a common spirit of mutual respect I cordially invite you to bite me. When the last thread started and there was a problem with people remembering to tag spoilers, I asked if people would like two separate threads. Most people said yes, they'd like that, but you said no, you'd like just the one thread and that people would remember. And then they didn't, so I fixed the problem. If you bring this up again in any way, I will solve the problem of your having to cope with my unbearable stupidity on a permanent basis.

Moving on.

*Sigs Mashiro's first sentence*

Mwehehhe.

Thanks Mashiro, now I won't have to read spoilers that some people ignore.

Anyways, yeah, the Doctor's monologing was great. I'd seen that part of the episode before, but DAMN it was even better in the full episode!

The Sci-Fi channel really did ruin the surprise though. Plus they put parts of the last episode in their previews, so that just screwed it up even more. Bastards. :(

*wishes he could Sig all of Mashiro's post*

Aha, you guys have to suffer with that as well! I hate the Beeb for showing us too much of next week's episode. They had a advert during the week practicly showing the remainder of the second series, for about 10 minutes. Didn't need to watch the rest of the series, it was all there in condenced form...

Is that ok? Nothing to do with Doctor or the/a plot. Just the respective channels over-advertising...

I wish, just once, when characters on a TV show are gonna send themselves a message in time, it would be something simple like "Don't touch the fucking red button," instead of a number or one word.

But anyway, New Doctor looks awesome.

Holy Jebus yes.

Can we all woot for the Doctor? I'm going to miss Number 9...

I'm game. One big group w00ting. In tribute.

Everbody together now: WOOT!!!

I'm going to miss #9 too. But maybe #10 will be just as good? (I'm hopeful!)I agree with Roy; I had somewhat higher expectations for the meaning of the phrase "Bad Wolf," but hey, it served its purpose. On to Season Two!

...In December!

First episode of Season Two is Christmas themed, I'm afraid.

So...yeah.

....

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Is it Christmas yet?

I say there's never been a better time for Christmas in July.

ME missed the very end scene, the one where you see the new face of pure awesomeness.

Damn you, Da Vinci Code, you wern't even that good of a movie! DAMMNNN YOU!

(anyone got a clip of that scene? It's after the Doctor puts the Vortex energies where they belong, when he's talking about Barcelona.)

It used to be on the BBC website.

Ah ha, here it is. Go here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/index14.shtml

And then click 'watch regeneration' up the top.

If that doesn't work, I do have the file on my computer, but I'd rather not upload it because it's copyrighted. (I have the DVDs, but it's still technically illegal to upload it).

Be careful on the website though, that's an old homepage for when season one ended, but there's lots of spoilers for season 2 if you go exploring.

I'm somewhat disappointed in the the Doctor for the last episode. Why? Well he sends Rose off to safety, but when you come down to it, he really should have sent Lydia as well. Didn't he promise to help her as well? And versus the Daleks, her help wasn't all that useful.

Also, was Captain Jack the only one brought back from the dead, or were the others just not shown?

SWB

I think it was just the good Captain, cause Rose was hot for him and stuff.

Hey, I can take care of myself! Better than that twerp Jack, anyway.

(Her name was Lynda, but according to 9 out of 10 medical receptionists and substitute teachers over the past 20 years, it's easy to make the mistake.)

Y'know, I could never bring myself to like Jack, but when he got killed, I almost felt sad.

But I didn't mind that they left him stranded on a half-dead Satelite Five. Huh.

The problem with Jack, is that they made him too competent. While he had a few botch ups in his introductory episodes, they didn't carry that over to his later appearances. The whole point of having a smug jerk like that, is to see him constantly fail.

As for the Lydia/Lynda thing, could we let that pass seeing as how I'm half deaf, and British accents have a habit of throwing me.

SWB

I personally felt the whole thing with Rose was a bit too much deus ex machina.

Still, there quite a few nice touches I felt. Like that little map of the earth Lynda was looking at was showing the continents changing shape when the Daleks were bombarding the place. My favourite part had to be when those three Daleks flew up outside the window. Despite being in space and it being totally impossible to hear anything, the middle one still spoke (as shown by their flashy lightbulbs) before firing. Hmm, I wonder what it said. Those crazy Daleks and their extermination.

i have a quick question. what did they mean about the doctor having a "northern accent"?

Because he had a northern accent...

Christopher Eccelston has a northern accent. Simple. Hence, so did the Doctor. So Rose asks him why he sounds like he's from the North.

It's a British northern accent, maybe that's what confused you if you haven't heard it before.

He speaks with a Northern English accent, as opposed to Rose, who's from London and therefore the south of England. I don't know a whole lot about English culture, but I think it's kind of like living in NYC and having a guy with a Texan accent tell you he's from another planet.

I forgot to say thank you. Love that scene, bet it was better on TV. :P

Is the regeneration always like that, or was that new special effects?

New special effects. Across the series, every regeneration has been different just about I think. From simple fades to flashes of previous memories and so on.

And no problem, by the way.

Doctor Who is well known for poor effects over here. At least, it was, until the new series, in which they've been amazing.

So yeah, that was a new regeneration effect.

As for 'British culture' in reference to the Doctor's accent, it is pretty much what you said. Eccelstone's accent is just a regional one. So Rose is basically saying "Well, if you're an alien, why do you have a Northern accent?", so just like you said, you wondering why an alien would have a texan accent.

His reply is priceless though.

"Lots of planets have a north!"

Hee hee, that and his godawful "happy medium" joke are probably my favorite Ninth Doctor lines.

i meant, Where would a person have to be born to have a northern accent?

Anywhere around here, probably, although Christopher Eccleston is from Lancashire specifically.

...the North?

Yeah, the regions shown there, Liverpool, Lancaster, Newcastle, although all have their specific accents, they're still all Northern.

The only thing that will get confusing is Scotland. Scotland is further north, but a Northern English accent is not a Scottish accent.

Wait until the second episode of Season 2 to see a Scottish accent! (It's David Tennant's natural accent, and he uses it for one episode when they visit Scotland).

I'm in america. To me, "the north" is canada.

Well there you go then.

Well yeah, but when you're watching a British TV show and the scene is taking place in Britian, it's safe to assume a British character in Britain saying "Why do you sound like you're from the North?" is referring to North Britain.

Or so I'd of thought, anyway.

I can understand not recognising the accent though, it's hard to tell regional accents when you don't live in that specific country. I certianly couldn't identify regional American accents.

Anyone who says "nay-gurs," "y'all" or "that there" is from the South, anyone who says "pop" is from the North.

THE MORE YOU KNOW.

Because god knows, no Yankees have ever been racist pieces of crap and every honky born under the Mason-Dixon line pops out of the womb with a pointy white hood on. Let's not get into this discussion before it gets right un-neighborly, y'all.

Anyway, Vivli, do you think having to put on a different accent from the one he has is why David Tennant sometimes sounds like he's got a mouthful of spit? Every now and then I start feeling bad for Billie Piper because she's not wearing a raincoat.

It was, y'know, a joke. One of those things I make from time to time. That aren't to be taken seriously. I was more going for the way it was pronounced anyway. With the "ay" sound. I know that people from the American North were racist too, at times, but they don't pronounce it like that. For the most part. I am from the American South, so don't think I'm Southern-bashing here.

Actually, from where I come from, it's pronounced like it should be: Shut The Fuck Up You Racist Bastard.

Then again, we also hate it when Road Island people say idea like ideer. So we're crazy like that.

ok. but i have no idea what north britian includes.

No one does. They don't even know. They just PRETEND to know.

Is that you calling me a racist bastard, or just people where you're from would say that to someone who was in fact a racist bastard?

That's just how we say it.

Hint: don't be saying it 'round here either.

The joke goes both ways, my victim.

Sorry, Roy, it's just not that funny a joke when you grow up here. But it's cool, no offense taken really.

ANYWAY, like I said, this is off-topic. Let's all drop it, okay?

I think we did.

...so, how long till we get the orgasim that is Season Two again?

I more noticed just how high pitch his voice goes. I didn't quite notice the spit thing. But it does go super high. Which is brilliant because it makes him sound hilariously childish, which fits his enthusiasm really well.

No, no, we do know. You see, North is up. Hence, North includes the top half of the country.

Not knowing what North Britain includes I understand though, like I said, if you don't live here, I can't expect you to know our geography. But when they say the Ninth Doctor sounds like he's from the North, it's because he has a Northern accent. Which specific city Eccelstone's from I'm not sure, but I think somebody said it a few pages back.

Salford, Lancashire.

Man, I'm glad somebody enjoys it when he does that, because it drives me nuts -- especially when he's shrieking about how much he loves humans! I'd rather be called a "styuupid ape" by Nine anyday than be aurally assaulted by Ten's Alien Queen imitation out of affection. :D

I can see how it would be annoying, but it just adds a whole kind of humorous edge to it I find. Mainly when he gets put in a position where the bad guys make a generally very good point, and his reaction is pretty much
"Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, you COULD do that, sure, you COULD..." and so on. His voice goes incredibly high pitched when he has lines like that, but it's just funny.

Anyway, this is probably the wrong thread to discuss Tennant's performance...

When is the new series coming to us poor Americans? Anyone know?

October, supposedly. Why not december, as the first one is Christmas oriented, I dunno.

It's just starting in Australia, got the Xmas special last week, it's wierd getting something before the US.

Shaddap...