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Burkion 06-10-2006 08:19 PM

Question; WAS it Sutek that showed up? Or was it just sorta of an injoke?

Vivli 06-11-2006 05:48 AM

In Confidential they said they just used the same guy because they felt 'nobody has ever done an evil voice better', or something.

In my opinion, as far as old monsters go, the description of the Beast was much closer to Fenric (who's described as the force of evil from the dawn of time, that existed back when the universe was just two cosmic forces, good and evil) than anything else, but that's just coincidence, I imagine. I mean, the amount of villains Doctor Who has had, stuff like this are bound to have similarities.

How he killed the beast wasn't really the big spoiler. You knew he could only do it that way. It was how he was gonna do it and save Rose. Finding the TARDIS in the pit was a bit of a cop out I thought, I mean, how did it get down there? I assume that parts of the base were sucked into the pit, hence the TARDIS along with it, but I think it may have helped if we saw other bits of base junk down there, so the TARDIS being there didn't feel so deus ex machinary.

But, y'know, he had to get it back! Although it seems to be foreshadowing that either something's wrong with the TARDIS, or something's wrong with the vortex, because of how the TARDIS 'fell out of it' in Rise of the Cybermen, and how at the start of The Impossible Planet it seemed to have its lights flickering on and off. The TARDIS has never been reliable, but I can't think of a time we've seen it going THIS wrong. I wonder if that's foreshadowing something.

I had no problem with the TARDIS saving the rocket from the blackhole, though. It was actually a nice throwback to the old series, talking about black holes and how the Time Lords 'practically invented them'.

And it's always a joy to see the TARDIS flying through space like a normal space craft!

So yeah, that's about the one complaint I had, just the rediscovering of the TARDIS in the pit at the last second, because it was just so predictable, and how it got into the pit didn't seem to make much sense.

But it didn't at all stop me enjoying what is in my opinion the best episode yet.

Heliomance 06-11-2006 10:18 AM

Contemplate the Ood - mind flayers much?

Vivli 06-11-2006 12:36 PM

Mind Flayers are D&D monsters right?

It's likely both were more based off Lovecraft style monsters. I've never read any of those stories (shamefully), but I know the basic design (or at least think I know), and I'd guess they were more based off that.

Could be wrong, of course.

Living Bobbeh 06-11-2006 01:21 PM

I thought they said Mind Flares, which makes a little bit more sence.

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And it's always a joy to see the TARDIS flying through space like a normal space craft!
a) What?
b) How many space craft have you seen flying?
c) It's a freakin' box!
d) Wouldn't the spinning make the Doc sick?

I bet anyone that the Doctor saves the world from a evil villain in the next episode, also: He does some time travilling too! Because he doesn't do that every single episode.

Steel Shadow 06-11-2006 02:06 PM

Ok, my info can be sketchy, but I've heard that the doctor's barely going to be in the next episode. Take that as you like.

Living Bobbeh 06-11-2006 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Steel Shadow
Ok, my info can be sketchy, but I've heard that the doctor's barely going to be in the next episode. Take that as you like.

Why do I severly doubt that, seeing as the show is called "Doctor Who"?

Mashirosen 06-11-2006 02:52 PM

Bobbeh, what is up with you and this snippy tone? I know you're annoyed with the spoiler thing, but live in the now.

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It's likely both were more based off Lovecraft style monsters. I've never read any of those stories (shamefully), but I know the basic design (or at least think I know), and I'd guess they were more based off that.
Between the tentacle-faces, the indecipherable ancient script, the delicate young intellectual who goes evil crazy from handling it, and the heinous unspeakable horrors from beyond time, it's probably pretty safe to assume.

Fifthfiend 06-11-2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mashirosen
Bobbeh, what is up with you and this snippy tone? I know you're annoyed with the spoiler thing, but live in the now.


Between the tentacle-faces, the indecipherable ancient script, the delicate young intellectual who goes evil crazy from handling it, and the heinous unspeakable horrors from beyond time, it's probably pretty safe to assume.

Here and I was gonna guess Doctor Seuss!

Vivli 06-11-2006 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Living Bobbeh
a) What?
b) How many space craft have you seen flying?
c) It's a freakin' box!
d) Wouldn't the spinning make the Doc sick?

Oh c'mon, you know I was referring to generic sci-fi. We see space ships in science fiction all the time. But none compare to seeing a little blue box spinning through space. I find it amusing.

And the inside is a seperate dimension from the outside, hence the outside spinning doesn't affect the inside.

Except when stuff goes wrong and the ship needs to dramatically shake, it seems.


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