Alright, B_real, I'ma gonna say this here to ya.

1) You're assumption is based on a past game. The chances that that game is affecting this one is slim, really.

2) You need to stop Role-Claiming Townie. Makes you look scummy everytime you do it.

3) Telling who you think is a special role isn't a very good idea, I think.

4) I don't think you're mafia.

Yes, that's right, I said it. I don't think that B_real is mafia. I think he is just a townie who thought of something, and decided to share. Yes, I think he is acting scummy, but I still don't think he's mafia. He's just floundering around trying his best to stay alive right now, which can be hard to do with the whole town on your back.

What can change my mind? Catlover's next post. If he doesn't post? If this situation doesn't change, then I will more than likely vote for B_real.

But, as of now, I shall let this situation unravel.

Personally I think that Roy may have been our only PO. It isn't uncommon for a mafia game to have a crazy cop and no normal cops. It helps shift the balance in favor of scum, which is useful if there are lots of pro-town roles. And I'm going to assume that many of the secret roles are pro-town, and a crazy cop may have been necessary to balance out the game.
But in any case, we shouldn't ever have to rely on roles to get us through the game. We have to try as hard as we can to just be able to win without dependance on roles. So B_Real, I think that you should try and defend yourself in another way.

There is a Serial Killer. If I remember I took the imposter out. Why is it not in the first post? Because I just copy/pasted it from Mesden's game (I'm lazy).

Carry on people (and kneel at my feet while you are there).

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.

If I was the PO, I'd tell you who the SK was. I wouldn't say the game name. I just brought up a little quirk I saw in a character, okay?

GASP! I'm right! Amazing! /sarcasm

Yeah, there's no point in faking any role, since I shot down how you could be any of them...I think you just agreed with me, but stated it your own way. Good job?

Sith stated my sentiments exactly. And honestly, what's so special about you? Why not let him investigate ME since you're such an INFALLIABLE TOWNIE WHO IS AUTOMATICALLY RIGHT IN ALL ASSUMPTIONS(The hypocrisy is so tasteful here) THEY MAKE!

The PO would then find me to be mafia, because there's NO POSSIBLE WAY IN THE WORLD THAT I CAN BE TOWN ALLIGNED.

So, if the infalliable B_Real is right, this way we can cut our mafia numbers by two! Seeing as I'm OBVIOUSLY a mafia for pointing out a STUPID FREAKING CONJECTURE THAT WOULD'VE GOTTEN SOMEONE LYNCHED, WITHOuT A HINT OF REAL PROOF!

B_Real, you're just just being illogical at this point.

On noes! The mighty B_Real is wrong and mistaken in what he has seen! It's ONLY a one time thing, right? /sarcasm

Now you're just spouting lies. Here, let me GO FREAKING PULL UP MY POSTS IN OTHER GAMES WHERE I WASN'T MAFIA AND I VOTED FOR MAFIA AND STATED GREAT REASONS AGAINT THEM BECAUSE I'M CAPABLE OF IT!

This took me about an hour and a half to pull up, By the way! Hope you have fun being wrong. Again.

Here's me casting light on a mafiate for the first time in this game. I DID cast light on a townie as well, but I'm not infalliable. Just to show, this post dropped into a major mafiate v. townie thing which I was winning at the end.

Here, let me go pull up ANOTHER one from that game.

OHMYGOD, I voted for a mafiate first after being the first to cast suspicion on him! Z'OH MY GOD!

Oh no, here's me voting for another mafiate, while still stating that another

Oh, and not only that game. OH NO! Let me go to Mafia SP...

Here's one of the MANY times I defended Jeremiahcron. Ahem, a townie.

Yeah, that's SO anti townie. *Eye roll*

I've got more, you know!

Here's me trying to CONVINCE people NOT to vote for a townie and to look at a MAFIATE!

Here's me defending the Vig.

Here's my first vote of the entire game. It was against a mafia after I deciphered his reasons through my own eye. Sound familiar, huh?

Oh, and here, I unvote a mafiate...and vote for another mafiate with good reason.

The ONLY two people I voted for in that game were mafia. Even THOUGH I was anti town, I still did EVERYTHING in favor for the town.

So, what lie are you going to bring up next?


Edit: For a messed up link

K!

So all catlover has to do is stay shut up today and I'm a goner to you? That makes sense, in a very twisted way, but still makes sense.

NINJA'd By Mesden: ALright, Mesden. I give up. I'm just gonna go with you're right and I'm wrong. This is becoming to much of a strain on my mind. I'm just gonna sit and see where the town goes from here.

UNVOTE: MESDEN
VOTE: B_REAL:p

How come, everytime I bring a logical case against you, you just give up? To make me look bad?

Honestly, if you can't defend yourself, then you were mafia bait from the beginning and I feel almost sorry for you, had you not been leading a lynch charge gainst someone off horrible conjecture and against me when all you did was address the more convenient points of my post and lied.

Lied a lot. A whole lot. I called you out on everything and all you can do is give up? Bull.

I did the best I could defending myself agaisnt you. My first game of Mafia was SOL: Mafia. So I did not know of your history prior to that. And quite frankly, the only time I recall after that of you voting mafia in all dem posts was CmP in Mafia: Basic. Since the game didn't end and he wasn't lynched, that didn't register in my head as you voting mafia.

Finally, I am just getting MUCH too tired argueing. I'm not a very arguementive guy usually. I tend to stray away from them. You can see why. My tiny little brain needs some rest now. So, lets leave it as is, with you having the final arguement and see how the town takes it k?

God, I don't know how to take this.

A townie just not caring anymore since they feel convicted, or a mafia setting that up as a last ditch effort.

If someone else can make some good of what B_Real has done, I might remove my vote. These last ditch things always grind my nerves and regarding them is pointless, thus defeating how I play and going to gut feeling, which I don't trust my gut feeling because it isn't stated with facts...

Confusion is here.

Are you fucking serious?

You're giving up because she caught you in your own argument?

I mean, pardon my language, but if you give up that easily, you obviously don't want to play that much. If you can't handle somebody evaluating your posts in a game where that's the main objective, maybe you shouldn't be playing. I'm going to quit this now, because this is quickly degenerating into a flame.

I apologize for any offense, but are you serious with that? I mean, come on! If you're not guilty, prove it. Show your defense, answer all points presented to you (instead of the ones that are convenient) and don't give up because you think you can't win.

EDIT: You completely blew off this post. Now answer it.

I didn't blow it off. I answered it here

again, so sorry I don't like chopping up posts but thats just too much work and effort. I prefer to answer posts with a post that isn't chopped up. And only seperate it based on ideas or where it seems like it should be a new paragraph. And that's really all there is from me in terms of responding to that post.

Edit. As for the rest of it with the roles and such I already answered those BEFORE she made that point in saying I'm NOT those roles. here and here, posts 393 and 397 respectively. Mesden said all that role stuff in post 405. Now just decide. are you voting for me or not.

I call that blowing it off. You basically said: "I'm done listening to you, you won't believe me anyway and there's nothing I can do to convince you." And to me, that exudes more scum than anything else you have done. Giving up in the middle of a game...
Stop saying that, now. I don't care whether or not you like to chop up posts, and that's just a diversion.

She gave reasons why you wouldn't be those roles. In the post right before your second example, she debunked you having a town-aligned role. Check your evidence before using it.

As to your first example, you just said you aren't the BG.

As to post 405, I saw nothing in there role related, except her saying that "The PO would find her to be guilty because there is no possible way she could be innocent."

All things considered, veil after veil, yes, yes I am.

Vote: B_real_shadows

Finally! Now I can go do something wihtout worrying what the towns course of action will be. I'm off to go do some other stuff now.

BTW, I'm a mafiate. And I kept trying to get catlover lynched cause he annoyed the rest of us (mafiates). We kept trying to get a hold of him since he was our don and he kept saying "later later" and finally he left. We sent the night kill without waiting for him. When he came back he still kept saying later later. So we again sent in the role for him. Except this time trying to frame him since we did have a convenient kill as our night 1 kill. So we killed Silly Kitty. And there you have it. I was willing to possibly sacrifice myself to get Catlover lynched so someone else could take the helm. Good luck mafiate. You will need it going solo. God knows Catlover isn't going to help you. And Mesden's one backstabbing !#%$@ of a mafiate too.

As for killing TWIDDY. We did it cause we felt killing an inactive would be more beneficial in keeping the game going. Later guys.

Wait, did he just confess and then say that Catlover and I are mafiates? Why in the world would...does that post even make sense?

I'm a bit confused right now. He said he was a mafiate and that the mafia are trying to get rid of Catlover who is also a mafiate, but then state that I'm a mafiate even though that would mean I'm against catlover instead of the rest of the mafia when I've actually pseudo defended Catlover and assaulted B_Real, but then he said I'm a backstabber...which makes no sense what's so ever. Seeing as he would know I'm mafia fighting him back and then it leads to circular logic...

You freaking scumbag. I don't believe you.

A) Why the hell would an intelligent player like Mesden try to kill a team-mate of hers for a supposed plan that she was a part of?

B) You're scum. I see no reason to believe anything you say. This looks to me like an attempt to get the person who forced you to fess up killed alongside you.

C) If you're going to go off in a huff after you get cornered, maybe it's the right decision to quit.

I can understand why you would quit with all the votes coming towards you.
But why would trying to frame Mes seem to be a good idea?
Sure maybe with your last post you could have framed Somone, but Mes is not one of the targets that you could hit with that.
I'm border line thinking that you are not mafia and are just trying to take somone down with you who you think deserves it..

Are you mad?! He admitted to being mafiate. Nobody in their right mind would admit to being mafia.

I would admit to being a mafiatte if I got frustrated and just wanted to take the person responsible for that with me. Its a perfectly reasonable suspicion.

Yes I am!
He just might not be in his right mind.
And I know If I knew I was going to go down I'd like to take somebody with me.

Oh, well, then I guess I'm wrong then.

But, this whole thing reeks of a grudge.

Ninja'd. I see how I was wrong, I had that thought too, grth.

Vote: B_real_shadows

So you admit to framing Catlover and then you still insist that he's a mafiate? Why should we believe that?
We're supposed to believe that you're willing to reduce the mafia to a single person just because your fellow mafiates are irritating you?

Ok, what the hell happened whilst I was gone?

B_real, I believe you. I believe that you are mafia. But I think you might be a mafia with a secret role. Maybe, when you're lynched, you kill someone as you go down? But, that is just an assumption, and assuming makes an ass out of you and me. What I'm going to do is ask the Vigilante to take care of B_real tonight, just in case.

And with that, I'm going to turn my focus to what I think is a real problem. Catlover. Why hasn't he posted here yet? I know he was on last night, I saw his name in that "Who's Online" listy thing. I think he's avoiding the thread on purpose, so B_real will be lynched, activating his special role, and giving the mafia an advantage.

But, this is just an assumption, and assuming makes an ass out of you and me.

Vote: Catlover

Neyo, your words speak of a lot of truth. It's possible to be similar to the role I gave KP in the last game that killed two townies when lyched.

Also, Catlover not responding? Yeah, maybe from that statement you handed that you would vote for someone aside from him had he not posted.

But we can't be sure the vig will hit B_Real. But, if he doesn't, we know who we're going to HAVE to lynch.

I'll Unvote: B_Real and hope the vig works his magic tonight. But I'll give Catlover until tomorrow before I cast my vote. Maybe sooner depending on my mood and occurences that show up.

Well honestly, I think as the town, we might want to listen to b-real and take note. The accusations that he leveled just sound like a disgruntled roomate, or an unhappy employee, spilling the beans about the company so to speak.
Precisely.
Now we see that Mesden is UNvoting B-real, and that is possibly to allay any suspiscion. And Neyo, you might be right about the catlover scenario.
This is an important list of suspects.
Catlover and Mesden
twiddy and b-real
that leaves one left.

I think.....maybe fenris, mostly because he completely debunked B-reals claim immediately without giving any kind of SOLID rebuttal, aside from calling him scummy. That is definitely the bottom of my list though. This is my only lead Worked for the guys in basic.


First things first
VOTE: Catlover
And hopefully the Vig wipes b-real.
maybe....

How is a dead person a suspect? (Twiddy)

He's not a suspect, Confirmed mafia.
I was just lumping them all together.

...No he isn't. Check the first death post and the List. He was mafia LAST game.

What? He was a townie, wasn't he? Are you talking about this game, or Basic?

For the holy space one's future reference.

EDIT: haha, I just noticed Twiddy died twice. Poor guy.

Okay, so removing the twiddy from my list.

We still have a Roleclaim for mafia, giving us other names for the mafia. so replace twiddy with Steel Shadow, "Halerthorn", Mafia aligned, and then re-think it.

Edit: I was confused becuase everyone was talking about last game. B-Real, are you talking about this game or basic?

This game apparently. Since he wasn't mafia in the last one. Also, he claims that I and Catlover are mafia.

Honestly, look at his post. Is that really any plausible statement? That I go against him sheerly for what? I don't see ANY possible good outcome in the situation he presented for me.

Edit, I meant to say I and Catlover. I bolded the change. Steel Shadow was fresh on my mind.

So, It looks like this. Possible outcomes:

1. B_Real is right on one level (his being mafia) and wrong on all others(everything else in the statement), trying to play the Martyr to take out some townies upon his death.

2. B_Real is correct on all levels (Yeah, right. Almost TOO eager to be lynched)

3. B_Real is one helluva lying bitch.

Neyo makes a lot of sense, B_Real could be trying to activate a special role to get us all (Or at least most of us) killed. I believe it's option number 1, sacrificing himself to kill some townies. And with that,

Vote: Catlover[insert numbers here]

and a prayer for the vig to do his duty.

I agree that B_real might have an ability he wants to use. However, why would he want to implicate his own teammates? Even if they were inactive (like CatLover), they would still be more benefical to the team alive than dead. So for now, I'll hold my vote.

Could we get a vote count or something?

Finally! Now I can go do something wihtout worrying what the towns course of action will be. I'm off to go do some other stuff now.

That seems to be why. Thing is, if he was so deadset on just taking everything down with him, wouldn't he have told us the OTHER mafiate?

It seems like it's obvious the way things will go. Catlover will get lynched since B_Real might have a special ability, B_Real will get Vig'd, and the mafia and SK will kill someone else, while Mesden will probably be investigated, and who knows who's going to get bodyguarded. And then the next day, either Mesden will be found as a mafiate, or I'm probably going to get lynched for defending B_Real.

Vote: Catlover

I just want to speed things along.

Oh, and tomorrow, PO, if you do investigate Mesden, do tell us who she is. There's no cult around to induct you, and unless the bodyguard dies tonight he or she will be able to protect you from both the Mafia and the SK.

Hmm. I hadn't considered the possibility of B_real having a role like the one KP had in SoL mafia. It does seem consistent with the fact that he seems to be trying to get himself lynched at this point. It probably would be safer for him to get vig'd than lynched. That being said:

Unvote: B_real
Vote: Catlover

EDIT - Unvote: Catlover Shouldn't he b getting modkilled if he's not participating in the game?

Lynch suspect, let vig kill B_Real etc. etc. It's all been said. VOTE: Catlover

Speed speed speed it along.

Vote: catlover20410

Geez people, you go fast don't you? Well damn what to do. First off, B_real impresses me with the possibility of trying to take out catlover, but his story does fit with Catlover's inactivity, so there isn't hard evidence to say he is lying. I kinda don't want to, but then again I am ready for a new day, so

Unvote: B_real
Vote: Catlover

Christ a guy can't go out and mow his lawn without you people changing everything. Of course sleeping till 4pm probably didn't help. All that said there are far to many accusations being thrown around to make sense of anything just yet. So I'm going to watch Toonami and adult swim then come back and reread all this stuff and decide then.

Ok, vote update!

11 to lynch.

Catlover (7):
-Neyo The King
-Inbred Chocobo
-Demonlink2
-Master Of Magic
-Ogrianes
-The Space Pope
-Ecurt

B_Real_Shadows (2):
-Fenriswolf
-B_Real?

B_Real, honestly, I think I just saw you call Mesden a naughty word. That's a warning. Regardless, anybody starts flaming, you will be Gokilled, no ifs, buts or whys. So watch your step. ALL OF YOU.

I'll PM catlover about his inactivity. I'll remove him if he doesen't respond properly.

I haven't unvoted B_real yet?

Unvote: B_real
Vote: Catlover

Well, sorry if it seems like I'm jumping on the bandwagon, but I've been really busy all day and just came back to find all this. Anyway... I don't know exactly what to make of the whole situation, especially not really knowing much about the secret roles, so I'm going to vote: Catlover and hope the SK hits B_real tonight. The evidence seems enough but that's my 12 am opinion:p

EDIT: I meant Vigilante, not SK.... God I need sleep. Goodnight everyone.

Catlover has been booted. He was "Mesden", NPF aligned, secret role. He had the power to change one lynching target.

The day still goes on though. Carry on as you were, 1 person less.

Okay, its kinda obvious whats going on here. B_real here has been trying to makea few attempts to redirect our votes to other townies. Besides, if he took out a few townies, this would have been bad for us. I say we go ahead and lynch B_real, because now I just feel like he is just going too low.

Unvote: Catlover
Vote: B_real

All in a days work to kill off townies I say:p

Well, he still got both "Mesden" and Catlover out of the game...

Vote: B_Real

...do you even need a reason explained anymore?

OH and before I forget Mesden. Sorry bout the name calling. Best way to convince the town I was frustrated with a "fellow mafaite". Now now, are you all going to just kill yourselves now by voting for me?

Eh, it happens I guess. We might as well get you, so the vig has a chance at getting unknown mafians. Besides, it was an assumption, so we can't be sure about it. Though Mesden was right on the ball with her guess about you now wasn't she?

And she's pretty right on the ball about my secret power too...for the most part. Give or take a few people.

Okay, guys. Here's the plan.

Everybody but me unvote B_Real.

At most, it'd kill only me.

AYE AYE ECURT!

UNVOTE: B_REAL:p

Still not gonna help ya. If I just do THIS.

VOTE: ECURT
Now you need 2 to kill me.:p

How about we follow through with the plan to just lynch someone else who is mafia and then let the vig ill him tonight. Right now I can't really thinkof who else to lynch but I'll come back to it later.

Hehehe, I never voted for myself and I died anyways! d(^ ^d)

Well, after all's been said so far, something I want to address.

Ecurt, you told the PO to investigate myself and tell you the results as long as the BG is not killed. I seriously doubt that after what B_Real just pulled that there's anything against me this entire game.

What have I done?

I had a clash with Sith over playstyle that was solved happily and all buddy buddy. So unless you're going to tie that with some humongous mafia ploy against me and Sith, that's not much.

I stayed a bit quiet because I wasn't around and eventually things came to day 2. What did I do?

I saw B_Real's "Idea". How'd I respond to that? Well, I think everyone noticed. B_Real had this SUPRISINGLY senseful plan, the one everyone was going "That actually makes sense!"

That's also a point I'm making. To everyone who stated that that load of bull made sense, Stamp of Suspicion on all of your heads! Inane theories do NOT make sense like that and going along with it casts a lot of reasonable doubt for all of you.

Now, back to me. I'm the only one to catch his bogus plan (The one that made OH so much sense!) in the act and point him out for who he is, but continue arguing him down and catching him in the act.

Now, unless you think I'm mafia for being TOO good this entire game, well, I guess I should suck more, souldn't I?

Haha, I can see that being cited now. Being mafia for being too good is right up there with being mafia for being too helpful. Though probably a little bit more absurd.
Anyway, obviously unvote: catlover
And I'm not really sure to go from there, cause if B_real has a secret role I certainly don't want to help trigger it, but really who's to say what's what anymore.
I'll try to make a decision by the end of the day though... I'm leaving for Chicago soon, and once I do, I'm not sure if and when I'll be able to have an internet connection.

*cough* A bit slow on the upkeep. *cough*

Ecurt, if his secret role does activate, what if it hits the last person to vote for him and not the first? That could be a problem.

What did you mean by that Mesden?

You unvoted someone who's dead...

Well, there goes that idea...

Ah, well, it was just a thought. Too bad for that, though. If we had lynched Catlover, he might have kill B_real for us. But, that is not important anymore.

What is important is B_real. I'm confused as to what do do with him. If he's mafia or not isn't really the question. But I am statring to question if he even has a secret role or not. The safe thing to do would be to let the Vigilante take care of him, but what if he's just a regular mafia trying to get us to lynch someone else? Too many questions for my liking.

So, what am I going to do? I'm going to Unvote: Catlover and wait. And I'm going to wait by not being able to be at a computer.

Not long from now, I'll be going to my aunt's house, which doesn't have internet access. I won't be back till Tuesday.

And with that, I wish the town good luck.

Lemme just state ONE thing, here people...

YOU CAN'T UNVOTE SOMEONE THAT NO LONGER LIVES!

Thank you!

Vote: B_Real

Dying is fine with me. *shrug* Unless you peeps wanna try and figure someone else out, and let the vig handle B_Real.

EDIT: Mesden, its not a big fricken' deal. Jesus, just let it pass.

OH, I saw someone else do it.... I didn't realize that wasn't how it's done at all though that makes sense. Realize... this is my first game.:sweatdrop

I know, I was just being ignored and used the only way to catch attention.

It wasn't a big deal MoM (The irony). Jesus, get over it. :)

Well, you kiddies get so LOUD IN TEXT that I can't even hear myself think.

And that's talent right there :P

Well, since Mesden hates it when we do so, I won't unvote catlover, just re-Vote: B_real_shadows and pray his effect is not similar to catlover's.

Ok, so B-real may be the only one that we can safely assume is mafia.

I am going out on a limb here and am going to Vote: NO Lynch, and if we all do that, the vig can kill b_real, hopefully without much recourse.

That's probably a bad idea. I mean there's still what... three other mafiates out there? no lynch means we don't even take a shot at hitting them... But we could ignore B_real if we're afraid he's got a dangerous secret role.

It could. That's why we should have as few people voting for him as necessary. Unfortunately, I forgot that he could vote for someone else, so it probably is better that we vote for someone else who is suspicious, and let the Vig kill B_Real.

However, only one person fits that bill, really: Me.

Unvote: B_Real
Vote: Ecurt

I did say in the first place that you should lynch me first before lynching him, so let's just speed things along.

Also, one more thing...

Gee, at the time that was posted, there was a chance that B_Real was telling the truth, and that was the main reason I asked the PO to investigate you. However, I still think that the PO should check you out, just in case, but I'll explain my reasons at the end of the post.

Oddly enough, I don't recall saying his plan EVER made sense. Hell, I pointed out actual evidence on why it couldn't have happened.

Now, you keep on saying that "You're good at Mafia." You always say that. So why shouldn't the PO check you to be safe? You never know...

Hell, who else should the PO investigate? B_Real? Going to be dead. Me? Going to be lynched today.

There's nothing lost from investigating you, and if we don't as one of the most vocal players we as the town have no idea whether or not to trust what you have to say.

You're completely right. I read it at a different time. Excuse me for that.

I did overgeneralize, sorry. It's easier than picking out every single person in every single post. I've shown that I'm willing to go to those lengths and I will if you want from now on.

It's not just me...Other people say it too! *Sniffle*

No you don't, but that wasn't really my POINT.

Um, alright. But I'm not trusting the lynch of you just yet... Aside, what about Sith? He was quite loud and has quieted down lately.

Um, there is if I'm innocent. We waste a PO investigation. But, again, you can never be sure!

I don't want the PO to have to reveal himself on something that I know is as trivial as a townie role. You can't trust that, so by all means, go ahead and waste it, because I can't really prove otherwise.

It's a waste to ME because I know my allignment. Anyhow, whatever floats your boat.

It's a waste because I'll be a known townie, but the BG HAS to protect the PO and not me, wasting my life. It's like condemning me to death all because you aren't sure. That's why I'm fighting it, because I'll die. I've never lived through a mafia game and I've been playing so well in this one. I've REALLY been thinking I'd make it to the end for my first time, one of the few things I haven't pulled off, but you're taking it away from me.

It sounds a bit petty, I know, but it's an aspiration that seems dead now...

I'm still not trusting lynching you because YOU could be the one with that secret role. Honestly, it's a bit off on the fact that that'd leave 2 mafiates left, but I'm still dubious to it.

I'll Vote: Ecurt for ONLY now. Chances are it will change.

Edit: Quote problem

Edit 2: I just felt the need to pull this off my chest.

My reason for initially saying I was going to quit was because people think I'm too good or I'm so influential.

People consider me dangerous. No matter what side I'm on, I'm always a threat. I thought that I'd be bait for every role on night one at this point and I'm suprised I wasn't.

Now you're telling the PO to investigate me. Why? Because I'm vocal and influential. If I'm ANYTHING, I die. I'd be a known townie and the mafia will kill me. I'd be mafia and the town will kill me. Why? Because I state my thoughts a lot and I'm good at it.

So now I'm being killed because I'm playing like myself. At that, I'll probably leave this game.

Don't let this be a pity party and affect what you do, players (Mainly PO). It's just something I've been meaning to say since I said I was quitting and it seems my premonition is coming true.

Edit 3: I DID live through .Hack mafia, but that game was plagued with overwhelming numbers for the mafia and townie dropouts. So I don't count it...

Believe it or not its July 4th weekend, or there abouts, and my parents have this crazy notion of a party, which generally means I have to run around doing all the yard clean up. Plus I'm running two DnD RPs one with Rhiya in it and man is she demanding. Other than that there hasn't been much left unsaid lately.

I am however, quite disappointed be the reluctance to lynch B_real. Christ people Mesden already told us 3 townies are worth one mafiate and I doubt he could kill 3 much less more than that. Of course that's assuming he's not just blowing smoke. Get some balls people, and in that vein.

Vote: B_real for the sole reason he's trying to scare everyone into not doing it. Hell he could have some secret roll that protects him from the vig for all we know. We shouldn't give him a pass because he's threating us with something that may or may not be there. Something that probably can't actually tip the balance of the game. Also, I'm really watching Neyo for saying it and Mesden for not seeing the idiocy of it.

heh, Just trying to get the most bang for my buck ;)

I'm completely with Sithdarth on this one. B_Real may be bluffing. And even if he's not, do you really think the GO would put in a mass kill mafiatte? It just screams unbalanced, unless we've got something extremely good on our side too.

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That right there makes me want to get rid of you. Now, if we vote you off, you quit, and we have to have that on our shoulders. Because there's no possible way that we could ever honestly think of you as suspicous. I mean, come on! That's just not even possible. It just has to be because you're such a big threat from the other games. Uh-hunh.

For the record: I consider you to be the exact same threat as anyone with a bit of experience.

And then you throw this out there:
Ah hahaha. Yeah. "Just completely forget that thing about me quitting if I die. Go ahead and vote for me, making me leave this game forever. No biggie. :DD?"

Right. If you didn't want it to be considered, then don't say it. I really don't like this kinda defense tactic, and I'm really hoping (and believe) that you literally just had to get that off your chest. Because if not, that's just low.

**** And its not like anyone can actually argue or say anything agianst it either! I'm feeling like an ass just writing this post, and its not even all that offensive or anything! *****
(at least, by my reading. If it really is offensive or flamish or anything like that, I sincerely apologize. That's not what was intended at all. I just really don't like this sorta thing effecting a game. It reeks of drama. And I hate drama. So I had to say something.)

How? Because Ecurt, one person, is trying to tell the PO what to do? You've defended the idea well, that the PO shouldn't come out and say what you are, because then your a dead person no matter what. No one else that I've seen has really voiced their opinion on it. So, here I go:

To the PO: please don't reveal yourself. There really isn't any point at this stage in the game, because we've still got a whole lot more people than the mafia at this point. Finding out the allegiance of just one person just isn't important enough. Saving that ace in the hole for later is much better, in my opinion.

Back to Mesden: Just because your this big influential person who never lives through a game, doesn't mean you should just quit. That would just make it more fun, from my point of view. Try and live as long as I could a few games, completely fuck up a few of the others as much as I can, that sorta thing. Assuming you're really as influential as you say you are (to be honest, I haven't paid enough attention to the other games to know if its the truth or not), then you can actually sway how the game plays out! You can mess with people's minds! You've got a huge sweeping effect, even if for only a few days. In what way is this bad?

I'm gonna go hug my little lion now. He'll make me feel pure agian.

Really, I just wanted it off my chest. I didn't like Ecurt's idea and it WAS the reason I was quitting(The belief for his idea). I thought I'd atleast tell everyone why I'd just half give up the game (I promised some people I'd join, but I'd really just not try at that point) Me getting killed for Ecurt's reason.

What was it?

"There's nothing lost from investigating you, and if we don't as one of the most vocal players we as the town have no idea whether or not to trust what you have to say."

Because I talk a lot. Yeaaaah...This thing has been a bit blown out of proportion the past month and I think it should be toned down a bit, but it sets a bad precedent for me.

Don't EVER underestimate the influence one person has. I never will and you shouldn't.

That's how I feel.

Says the former PO who waited until he died, even though he had just pegged the last mafiate. ;)

Hooray!

The problem isn't the past, it's the now that's been built up. When someone's telling me t be revealed by the PO JUST because I'm me, it's gotten so far that me playing would just be auto role target.

Not when you're crucified before you can do anything. ;)

I do, it just hardly works.

I'm not the "Fuck up" kind of person.

It's bad when I'm gone before I can do anything. Targetted because I'm me.

Have fun!

VOTE: B_Real

The idea of him bluffing sounds very plausible to me. And besides, if I die it won't be much of a loss since I don't have a very important role.

Hey, as long as that's all that your saying, and you don't quit if we really decide that you're mafiatte and lynch you, fine. I don't really like Ecurt's reasoning either.
Well, assuming everyone playing is thinking about what people say, and not just going along with it, it shouldn't be a problem. That said, yeah, you're right. My bad.

Bah, I shouldn't have put myself out in the open like that. If I had stayed back like before, I could've come out with my list, and we'd be home free.


Well, I'd say the PO has good reason to investigate you -- not reveal themselves though -- just because your one of the more talkative ones in the game, yess. Is that you being targeted just because of who you are? No. How you play? Yess. But you chose to play that way, so you should accept the downsides of it.

Maybe they do just go after you because you're Mesden. I don't know. But you have to see that your not really discouraging it :P


Seems like you've gotten to do quite a bit so far :P


You're not dead yet, silly.



:( Awww, you should try it sometime.

Oh, but I did. Blew some bubbles too, just for the hell of it.

I was talking about the future, silly. If Ecurt's sets that precedent about me needing to be targetted for how I play (Basically for being me) then it becomes all of that Junk.

*Grumble* I want some bubbles *Grumble.*

In reference to the bold of post

But you already have turned it into a pity party.

We didn't hit you night one because we felt that it'd be fun to have you around in other mafia games as well and not let this be your last. But if someone feels you're too dangerous to have in the beginning of the game, eventually your influence will fade in games, they will find new targets who are more influential and you will live again. See it more as a way to level the playing field.:D

IN Reference to the italicized part of quote

heh, so why so uppity about the PO investigating you? you don't have something to hide do you? SK maybe? if your allegience is of no threat to the town, then why would you be afraid of the PO investigate you?

In reference to the underlined portion of the post

heh. I find games more fun if I try something new every now and then. You should try it. Don't get all stressed out over a game. I enjoyed the game alot more when I made short posts this time around than the long arguementive posts. Those were frustrating. Like you said last time, the game should be fun.;)



What? I'm still alive. I can make arguementive posts to help the town:p

EDIT: And for the record Ogian. I'm getting the votes still arent I?

She doesn't seem to mind if she gets investigated to me, just doesn't want to die no matter what.

And, ya know, if you turn out to not be in the mafia, I'd love you forever B_Real.

Oh then you should get ready to do some lovin MoM. You're gonna enjoy this.