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byrd 09-04-2006 10:43 AM

Crazy theory
 
I had no idea whata Cthulhu was so i searhed wikiedia now it all makes sense the LWs arn't in the sea shrine. well they are but the sea shrine is R'lyeh the place where the head honcho Cthulhu sleeps or as we knew it in FF as Kraken. Thats where i see this going with the cultist. the will revive him thinkin its their God when the LWs could have just snuck in to take the orb. this upsets the LWs very much and brings great pain to the cultist.

Massacre 09-04-2006 10:53 AM

Well, in all fairness, that could all entirely apply to the story as far as the cultists go and so on, but I actually don't think that Kraken fits the Cthulhu bill in reality. Kraken is a Greek myth, one of the great sea-beasts. Of course, that just means the Squaresoft guys weren't thinking Cthulhu. Gazuga knows what Brian is thinking...

Meister 09-04-2006 12:08 PM

I don't think anyone will directly state "hey, this here's Cthulhu," but on the other hand I really can't see this going down without at least a reference.

Kurosen 09-04-2006 12:15 PM

Episodes with The Cultists in them tend to have titles that are based on Lovecraft stories. Their design is clearly Cthulhu-oid, and they're a gross bunch of malformed things who worship nameless alien gods and wish to bring about the end of the world through gross pacts and rituals and the like.

So, yeah, I'm not going to say that they are directly worshiping Cthulhu, but there's a whole lotta homage orbiting these guys.

Khael! 09-04-2006 04:24 PM

If you can't pronounce it, it probably drains your sanity score.
 
Also, they have un'nece'ss'ary apostrophes riddled throughout their names. Definitely Lovecraft-spawn I say! :shifty:

Massacre 09-04-2006 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurosen
Episodes with The Cultists in them tend to have titles that are based on Lovecraft stories. Their design is clearly Cthulhu-oid, and they're a gross bunch of malformed things who worship nameless alien gods and wish to bring about the end of the world through gross pacts and rituals and the like.

So, yeah, I'm not going to say that they are directly worshiping Cthulhu, but there's a whole lotta homage orbiting these guys.

Pretty much as I expected. The Cthulhu references do the whole evil-tentacle-monster-from-the-inky-depth thing alot of good credit, but I did not really think we were going to have the Great Old One himself here. 'Sides... Since when is any of the Old Ones named Hu'? Or Ur?

I see great things in the future... Great and scary...

Sterling_Silver 09-05-2006 04:14 AM

Well, seeing as we can't actually pronounce their real names, Hu and Ur could be pseudonymns created for the convenience of the tentacled cultists and other lesser beings. But I doubt that.

*ahem, on to what I was going to say, even though Brian has already spoken on this subject* Steppoing away from the literal aspect for a minute and looking at the literary/psychological, it doesn't quite matter whether your giant monster of the dark depths of the unknown is called Cthulu, Ur, Hu, Kraken, Davy Jones, or what have you, because they're all connected to the human unconsciousness, the chaotic nature of the universe that is forever beyond our grasp, etc. etc.

End result: We can say it's Cthulu in the story, because the actual object of the cultist's worship is not entirely unlike Cthulu. I think RM would approve.

~Silver

Tiako 09-05-2006 08:25 AM

I was wondering whether the cultists were sprites in FFI, and I suppose here is as good a place to ask as any.

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Kraken is a Greek myth
Technically Norse, but I'm only bringing it up to be a pedantic bastard.

Massacre 09-05-2006 08:45 AM

These particular Cultists were originally represented by some evil squidheaded sorcerer-type monsters from the game, but then Bryan edited to make their current forms from Black Wizard sprites. So, technically, they come from the game, but only after a little tweeking. My question is...were the heads a custom job or did they exist prior to the comic?


As for Cthulhu, true that in the naming of the beast in question, it can just be a surname if anything else to fit the bill, but one thing that I find particularly about our cultists is that THEY do not know what the hell they're worshipping. Why do I find that funny, when we just stated that the beastie in question is unknown? Because...all Cthulhu Cultists know the name of the Great One.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn...

In reality, as far as reality may extend into talking Lovecraft here, the Cthulhu Cult is the age-old existence of humans before recorded history as the lowly peons of the Old Ones. Those depicted in H.P. Lovecraft's themes have a very clear understanding of the thing in which they so fervently serve. Just look to their horrific devotion for proof of that. Of course, there is nothing wrong with the 8-Bit Cultists being the way they are. After all, they're so much like Black Mage. :D

Khael! 09-07-2006 12:14 AM

Make a will save!
 
Man, I can't quote Massacre's cultist spree on my psp. What was that chant thing? I'm not familiar with that particular dialect. More of Cthulu's unsayable name or something even more hazardous?


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