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YouTube and MySpace breaking copyright laws.

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/35765875

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Universal Music Group, the world's largest record company, contends the wildly popular Web sites YouTube and MySpace are violating copyright laws by allowing users to post music videos and other content involving Universal artists.

"We believe these new businesses are copyright infringers and owe us tens of millions of dollars," Universal Music CEO Doug Morris told investors Wednesday at a conference in Pasadena. "How we deal with these companies will be revealed shortly."

Universal's talks with YouTube Inc. have deteriorated and the recording giant is set to file a copyright infringement lawsuit against the video-sharing company if no agreement is reached by the end of the month, according to a person familiar with the talks who spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the confidential nature of the negotiations.

Universal's talks with News Corp.'s MySpace have been progressing, the person said.

A call to YouTube seeking comment was not immediately returned. MySpace declined to comment.

The prospect of Universal Music or other record labels suing MySpace or YouTube represents a departure from the way the recording industry has interacted with the sites thus far.

In less than three years, MySpace has emerged as a choice destination for young people and a hub for bands to promote music. Record labels big and small have created Web pages on the social networking site for their bands, typically allowing visitors to listen to the artists' music for free.

Since launching last year, YouTube has grown into one of the most popular video portals on the Web, thriving off user-generated videos that sometimes include people lip-synching to copyright songs or incorporating footage from movies or music videos.

The company has said it promptly complies with notices to remove copyright-infringing material uploaded by users.

But commercial music videos posted with the blessing of the record labels can also be found on the site. YouTube recently added branded channels and videos that enable companies to advertise on the site, a service Warner Bros. Records used to promote Paris Hilton's debut album.

Capitol Records, meanwhile, has released videos on YouTube by The Vines, Cherish and OK Go.

Universal, however, has made it a priority to get compensation for content that was once seen as purely promotional. Last year, the company began charging Web portals such as Yahoo Inc. (Nasdaq:YHOO - news) and Time Warner Inc.'s AOL for playing its artists' music videos online or over video-on-demand services.

Talk about being greedy. I find it amazing that Universal is so blinded by greed that they can't see the potental of the internet, like capitol records has for the band OK GO, or NBC for The Office or movie theaters for trailers of upcoming movies. MySpace and YouTube are the biggest advertising opportunities ever created. They service billions of people from all over the world. Why can't they see that? A lawsuit against either of these websites won't help a damn thing.

There are copywrite laws for reasons; we all understand that.
The States seems to have a more ...structured interpretation than Canada, from all intents and purposes.

Although not hideously familiar with YouTube style websites, I know that Limewire has furthered sales on numerous Canadian artists not only on this continent but also overseas. Very ironic that a free peer to peer network would generate such lucretive markets.

I appreciate the taste before you buy mentality that these websites give.
It allows one to sample what interests them; if they like what they see/hear they will support the band. (by going to live shows, buying band merchandise, etc.)

The companies need their money. Yes, even the obscene amounts that they get to fuel their brand of capitalism. Perhaps there could be some way of enjoining with YouTube etc the same way that WoW allows gameplay.
For a very moderate fee, easily purchased at a Best Buy or FutureShop type place, you can have unlimited access to what you want to see?
Either a one time card, good for a year, and renewable, or some other form of cover charge? This isn`t happy for us end users, but at least there is comprimise there.

Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by AnotherOne

There are copywrite laws for reasons; we all understand that.
The States seems to have a more ...structured interpretation than Canada, from all intents and purposes.

Well there is a reason for that...in the United States some people feel that they shouldn't have to work for their money. There for they decide to sue people for it instead

For instance in the United States if some one breaks in to your house and you knock them out and call the cops they are allowed to sue you for any injury they might have received. If you kill them however you'll probably go to court but they will rule in your favor. Now that may not seem right to you because it sure as hell isn't. That taking a life is a better way to get out of trouble for yourself than getting someone arrested is not the way the world should work but unfortunatly because lawyers in America have taken away all sence of responciblity that people should have it is how it is.

I really wish it wasn't but what ever.

Anyways even big companies want more money. Universal makes an obcene ammount of money but they want more...people once they have something can never be happy with what they have.

Well I guess that's all I have to say about that...
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LOL, this is great! I hope they waste millions in trial lawyers and destroy themselves. Corporate warfare is teh best.

This is just great.

How the hell am I going to watch my anime on youtube now?

It's simple: Time Warner is caught in an antiquated paradigm. Kind of in the same way that old general stores went out of business during the early half of the 20th century after department stores started springing up. Unlike a Mom and Pop store, however, Time Warner has enough billions of dollars that it could float a cruise ship in hundred year old wine, kill all the passengers, pay off all the settlements and still have money to throw around. So they'll be kicking and screaming about the internet being better than them for quite a long time.

Anyone know what Time Warner's profits have been over the last couple years, like 5 maybe so we could check and see if there is even an effect made in the time youtube or any other P2P networks have been around?

Also what are they laws on radio stations playing music? I believe they just buy the record or are actually supplied with them to promote a band etc and get them in the public view. This would set a disturbing precent and in any case we should all boycott buying any music by labels that pull this crap or overcharge for their CDs. A market is based on supply and demand and we as consumers have the power to affect how things work by withholding our buyer's stake. I don't buy from jerks and none of the rest of you should either (I am not endorsing illegal downloads, just don't support bastards).

*reads article*
Wow... Proof positive that greed and stupidity know no bounds. They're gonna shoot themselves in the foot on this one, even if they win.

I guess they never heard of viral advertising.
Apple isn't stupid, they signed the Numa numa guy to do I pod Commercials.
They just have no faith that people will actually buy the stuff that they are overpricing, because they say no one is buying thier stuff.....
Hmmm...